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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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Balance rims without lip weights?

is there a way for a tire shop to balance your rims without the ugly snap on weights that go on the lip?? Im in the process of polishing my rims and I dont want ugly wheel weights on my newly polished rim lips. Thanx
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 09:04 PM
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you can put them on the inside of the wheel or use stick on weights inside the dish of the rim.
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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Yes, IIRC, the shop that did mine put clips on the inside lip and then used stick on ones further inside the dish of the rim. I have no vibes or problems at all.
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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just have the shop balance them static....that means the weights just go on the inside of the rim. i balanced mine and have gone past the 145 mph speedo and not had a vibration problem
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 10:11 PM
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Some shops like for you to believe that "sometimes" the tires are so out of round that you can't do it without putting the weights on the outside (like my shop told me) but that's BS. Just like the other guys said,....it can be done. Don't settle for letting a lazy shop tell you it can't be done.
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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I had my GTA wheels balanced with the wieghts on the inside too. Not seeing those weights on the outside of my beautiful rims was very important to me. The other other way is more popular, but I chose not to do it that way.
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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when i get around to polishin my stocker z28 rims im goin to balence mine on the inside. hey if anyone needs there rims balenced and are in my area stock by the watchung pepboys, i "the best installer" they have so far and well my work shows for it but hey would cant balance a tire/rim good.
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by devianb
I had my GTA wheels balanced with the wieghts on the inside too. Not seeing those weights on the outside of my beautiful rims was very important to me. The other other way is more popular, but I chose not to do it that way.
Not that it is more "popular" it actually ballances the rim better. It is much more of a accurate way of doing it.

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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 12:11 AM
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I've got the stick on ones on my wheels. Makes for a cleaner look,
and ran fine up to 160mph.
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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by Kat
Not that it is more "popular" it actually ballances the rim better. It is much more of a accurate way of doing it.

Kat
thats a common misconceptin about balancing wheels.
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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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I work at a shop that does tires, and you can either have sticky weights, or you can just have weight(s) on the back lip of the rim.

But my bosses also say it doesn't balance them as well.
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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by cobrakiller1989
thats a common misconceptin about balancing wheels.
No, you do get a 'better' balance with the balancer set on dynamic. Have a shop try this. Balance them using static, then switch the machine to dynamic and see how far off they are. However, with good tires and straight wheels, you can get by just fine with a static balance--all my cars are. If not the shop can use tape weight inside the wheel, I've had to do this a few times. Example, an eclipse had new tires installed and static balanced. Came in with a vibration at insterstate speed, test drove and it did. Checked the balance static and they were all still perfect, switched to dynamic and a couple of them were way off. With the .5 ounce still on the inside they 'wanted' another 1 ounce on the inside and outside when switched to dynamic--but perfectly balanced static. Rebalanced with tape weights and no more vibration. If static was 'just as good' as a dynamic balance, why would the balancers have half a dozen or so different dynamic settings? Sorry about the long post, but I've been balancing tires since 'bubble" balancers were common.
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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by 82camaro
However, with good tires and straight wheels, you can get by just fine with a static balance--all my cars are.


must have been my situation exactly then, i had brand new chrome IROC wheels with Kuhmo supra 712's on em and tried what you said just to see the difference, and there was none. I have never tried it on an old tire/rim combo. thanks for clearing it up tho. I have a freind with a low 9 second chevelle and they balance his slicks static, so i took it for granted that it was fine. anyway, the small difference there will be, most likely will not affect our cars
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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I have the stick-on weights on the back of my wheels, but the tire shop said they are more prone to flying off and suggested that I put duct tape over them. Looks nice and ghetto from the back, but great from the front.
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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Well, that's good to know. I had "regular" weights on my salad shooters, and had to take them off the front tires on the inside because they damn near beat the the tie rods to death. When I get the rims from my mom's house in FL, when I can afford new tires, I will have to remember to tell the tire shop "sticky weights, please".
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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 01:03 AM
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the owner before me got some new tires for the factory rims and had them static balanced, no problems with that. been up to 120mph
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