I was wondering how steep your driveway, or other steep areas that you have to normally drive up are, and how well you clear them. Which lowering springs you use also... I'd really like to hear from camaros with the ground effects and sportline or intrax springs. I'm thinking about going lower with the sportlines or intrax, right now I have the pro-kit. I'm only worried I won't be able to make it up my driveway without scraping... that is completely unacceptable for me. Thanks.

 

my car is stock height and it scrapes unless i go VERY slow up, and its not a steep driveway.

 

Ha

I drive very carfully so i do not scrape......

I have scraped before, even at taking a angle.....

If you lower your car, expect to get some scrapes on the front end....

 

My driveway is pretty steep and just the air deflector scraps if i don't go in at an angle.It has sportlines.

 

allways take it at about a 45 degree angle and go sloooooow and if its two steep (not your driveway) find another way around.
I lowered my car 4" in Nov of 1985 and I have put over 50k on it since then and have only hit twice

 

I have the Eibach Pro-Kit and it has taught me how to read the roads. Waves in the road get the air dam to scrape, but now I'm pretty good at avoiding everything. Going into driveways, all you need is the right angle to avoid scraping.

 

scraping the airdam happens no matter how hard you try. if you take things at the right angle you should be fine with a sportline drop assuming your not having problems with your pro-kit which is why your thinking of going even lower.

the lowest i've ever had mine with my coilovers was 4" in the front and 3" in the rear....i never had much of a problem although there were a few driveways i couldn't pull into. it's just certain things you deal with.

 

I have the sportlines and hardley ever scrape and I don't take it slow. I don't have any ground effects though or an air dam, only hit very few steep speed bumps, never had any problems on the road though.

 

i havent had any probs yet .

 

oops , heres the pic, im gonna get ground control ride height adjusters to get the back even lower.

 

man y'alls cars look sweet ive been kicking around the idea of lowring mine just havent got to it yet, maybe when i get rims I will.

 

i got dropzones and i also cut 1/2coil off my front set to get it little more agressive stance(never cut anymore then that) as you can see my car is really low. Ive scraped my airdam about 5 times in one yr and thats on realy steap driveways where i couldnt get an angle on it and had 4 ppl in the car.
I have more problems rubbing my headers ypipe behing the crossmember then anywere else.

You know what its like to have it low now so if you realy want it that low youll learn to take uneven roads slow...cause lord knows i do. If you wanna know my before and after measurments of my ft air dam do a search for my id name and the word dropzone. Whats your mesurments now??

heres that pic

 

thats nice...........if you had 91-92 gfx on that baby it would be sitting in snow.

 

I have sportlines and dont seem to have problems with scraping. Speed bumps on occasion though, I broke an exhaust weld once grrr...

 

I don't have measurements of how it sits now, but it looks like a good mean stance... I like it alot.... but then I also hang around some imports and what not and I've grown to like the fender right ontop of the wheel and sitting really low, it looks awesome. When I posted my car on here a few months back alot said it needed to be an inch lower, and the picture was with the pro-kit on. I mean there's gap but it has a nice raked mean look to it....


https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=218754

 

looks pretty level to me....

cutting 1/2 off the top coil will put it just about where you want and you won't need to buy new springs. you'll get a really aggressive stance with a slight rake without the expense since you already have the part.

i did this with my own after i was looking for the same as you, i saw an article in gmhightech where they did it and it didn't hurt the cars performance so i tried it and it worked great.

 

i bought my car lowered and i've scrped quite a few times

 

Here is a pic of it back in 1991 with the stock tire/rim combo on it

 

I lowere my GTA with Belltech spindles and let me tell you, that air dam will scrape on a friggin cigarette butt. When I first did it, I scraped everywhere. After a year or so, I very rarley scrap at all anymore. Every now and then it'll drag going up my driveway, and from time to time a good deep rut in the road will cause a little drag, but other than that it's not too bad. I live in rural (yep, I'm a hillbillie) Colorado so the paved roads up here are as bad or worse than dirt roads. The one thing I can't quite conquer are the friggin' dips in the town I live in. They are deep enough that my wife's stock 94 Grand Am drags *** through them.
Here are a couple pisc of my car.

 

Here is my car in 1.5 to 2 inches of snow. Notice how the air dam acts as a plow (that's how low it is). It took almost an hour to get it back in the garage after taking this picture, damn tires. By the way, this pic was taken directly across the street from my house.

 

As long as you can angle your approach on potential scrape hazzards you should be fine. No one really drives their f-body fast into driveways and pull ins anyways so you should be used to it by now. I can get over speed bumps ok but my cat does scrape a tiny bit if I have a passenger in the car with me.

 

I'll second that. It's all about developing the one wheel at a time skills. I'm sure people hate following me through my town, since at every intersection, I have to almost stop, and go one at a time. Those good ol boys in thier 70's Ford 4x4's I'm sure just hate me.

 

When I first bought my car, it had 15" wheels with smaller tires up fornt and it scraped on everything. I developed a sytem of using torque to prevent scraping. Right when I was about to scrape, I tap the throttle, and the torque brings the front end up a bit. I switched to 16" wheels with taller tires and don't have the problem, even with the Pro kit. But on dips and stuff, you need to angle the car then bring it straight to avoid scarping. The only thing that seems to scrape now is the air dam.

 

You really have to be careful even with a slight drop, if you see anything in the road, dont expect it to go under the car. My car is only lowered about 1"-1.5", but this summer an innocent looking piece of something smashed my trans pan, ripped the ypipe off the driver-side header, and ripped the header off the rear of the head. Scraping is one thing, but you can actually really mess the car up if youre not careful.

 

I have intrax, drive carefully, but scrapes happen. Ride is very nice, and handling is awesome. If you go more than an inch, I will say that a baer bump steer kit is helpful.

 

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*****thats not right

I agree with him cut off a 1/2 coil.... just dont cut the top one thats the flatend end your suppesed to cut the "bottom" of the front spring!!!

 

Thanks guys. I'm gonna try and get a picture of how steep my driveway is and see if any of you guys think I can get up it with intrax or sportlines without a problem.


Maroon-IROC-Z: How long have you had your intrax springs? Have they seemed to be sagging at all? I've heard some say they are great and others say they were crap. And the baer bump steer won't fit behind my wheels

 

Arrg I been wantin to drop my baby for so long but I cant even get out of my driveway without scraping the airdam at stock height, its got an gate so I cant really angle it enough..

WTF does the airdam do anyways? just push air under the car when your driving on the highways?

 

It scoops the air up and through the rad, there is not much flow through the grill

 

could you get rid of the air dam if you had a nice aluminum radiator and then some good fans. maybe two pusher and puller fans.

 

I think and I could be wrong that fans usually are only good up until 30MPH I have a griffin radiator and a 2200CFM fan but I haven’t ever considered taking the air dam off

 

The air damn is the most crucial peice of the 3rd gen cooling system. Do not get rid of it. When I had a stock motor, it always stayed around 220*. But when I lost my air damn, the damn thing would be up to 260* in 20 minutes. Keep it on there.

 

I scrape over speed bumps if i dont go one tire at a time.

 

hmmm I took it off of my old one and didn't notice any cooling difference but I guess i depends on the car..

 

lol..... jcurrieirocz i hope your kidding right? the top of the spring is the angled coil on our cars. the bottoms are flat. you have some problems if they are upside down.

 

this is mine with the dropzone springs

 

I had the Jamex springs on my Trans Am and have the Sportlines on my Formula,

 

I have only had them for a while, but it is the same height as the day that I dropped it. I haven't evert heard of them sagging at all. I would only wish one thing, I wish that the read sat the same height as the rear. Since I have a 350/Auto with cast heads the front is lower than the back. I think it is only noticable by me, not everyone else.

 

I had Belltech's on my old '86 Camaro and it sure looked and handled nice, but it did scrape on everything if you didn't take everything at an angle.

I also had an incident with that car trying to straddle a turtle and not run it over. I nailed it with the crossmember and in the mirror it looked like it exploded.

 

I have intrax springs and the air dam scraps even on just braking hard.

 

Kandied91z I think you may be confused here you DO NOT want to cut the top of the front springs ,, they are angled flat,, the bottoms are not, you would want to cut the bottoms. I have never cut any but I have had mine out.

I put sportlines on mine and just have to be a little more carefull where I decide to go now. I don't scrape very often at all, and its never more than the air dam. Even though I hate the thought. You get use to it quick.

 

ha........just read what i said...your right the bottom is coiled. late nights, long hours.

either way it's the coiled end that's cut.

 

haha you had me second guessing myself for a few mins, but i remeber for sure that you tape the isolator to the top of the spring (flat end) and i remeber indexing the start of the bottom coil inbetween the 2 holes in the LCA.

 

Anyone got pics of lowered Sport Coupes?

 

I think no matter what you do to lower a sport coupe, it will still look high.

 

yeah, but done well, they look frickin' awesome!

 

sc lowered as requested

 

sport lines...

 

my headers allways hit the ground with my 2"drop spindles on. heres a pic with them on. i put the stock ones back on this year.