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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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I should not be allowed to wash cars

A couple of days ago I started washing my bird. I bought the 3 step mcguires. Then, I realized that I needed to wash it before I did the 3 step. So I used this stuff that was laying around the garage, which turned out to be an oxidaziation remover. It dried to a green film, and I spent all day washing that crap off with real automotive soap. Most of it is gone, but its still stuck in some crevaces, like the windshiled wipers. (and I didn't have time to use the mcguires cuz it started raining!)

So yesterday, I looked at the car, and noticed a bunch of tiny circular scratches. The kind you would get if you used a rag that was too harsh. I went out of my way to buy special cloth before I washed it. So either a- it's from the previous owner, or b- i got grit from driveway the couple of times I dropped the cloth and from near the wheel wells and its my fault. Its really noticeable in strong sunlight, how do I get it out? It's also not so noticeable on my windsheld. How do I take care of that? The next time I drop my cloth, how do I get out the grit?

Finally, there was some soap residue from the last wash, so I hosed the car down, and left it to dry in the sun. I came back, and there were water spots on my car. But on the hood and roof (which were in direct sunlight) It looks like there is clear coat seperating from the paint. $#!% Are these just terrible waterspots, or do I need to repaint the car cuz I'm an idiot?
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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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lol i cant start to tell you how many things are wrong with what I just read

1. never use anything to wash your car cept car soap....NEVER you dish soap either. You seemed to have learned this.

2. Buy a sheeps wool (not synthetic) wash mit to wash your car, not a rag

3. Buy a nice soft (non synthetic) chamois to dry it. dont bother with rags or towels.

4. if you drop it in the dirt, dont use it, or atleast take the hose to it, full pressure and give it a good rinse all over and inside out. Normally I would just put it aside, and use another clean one and wash the dirty one.

5. Use an old mit, or sponge or whatever to do wheel wells, and (depending on how picky you are about your wheels) use that for the wheels too. or if you are super fussy about your wheels, have a separate one for those.

thats all i can think of without re-reading the post. As for your other problems, go to a coin op pressure washer to remove that old crap. You can try, but be super careful and use a diluted degreaser to help, but wash it off alomst immediately. as for you small scratches, go get meguiars Scratch X remover or a similar product.....it should work depending how deep they are. Even your meguiars stage 1 may help with that.

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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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first of all .......dont let ur car dry in the sun!!!! your going to have waterspots from hell...and....next time..just take it to a detailer.hahaah
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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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1. never use anything to wash your car cept car soap....NEVER you dish soap either. You seemed to have learned this.

Using dish soap is fine, and actually preferred method If first you want to polish the car for the first time. The dish soap will remove all the old polish/wax that is on the car and will allow you start from fresh.

However after you waxed/polished the car you'll want to switch to a good quality car soap that won't strip all your polish off.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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That deoxidizing crap I got was for automotive use. But it was supposed to be a step after I washed the car. I used it to wash the car (stupid stupid stupid) so I went over the car with Armor All car soap.

The cloth I used was like terry or something like that in the car wash section of pep boys. Is that still no good? Or should I buy some sheep skin? I did buy one sheep mitt (or imitation sheep mitt), but I was gonna keep it for the wax, maybe I should just get like 5 of them.

Since that green crap was for auto use, do I hafta get rid of it ASAP? I probably wont be able to work on the car until tomorrow and, its like right on the windshiled wipers and between where my screaming chicken emblem meets the paint. Any clues how to get that out?

And that stuff that looks like the clear coat is peeling.... PLEASE tell me those are just waterspots from hell. Because even wiping over it with water didn't get it out. If it's bubbled clearcoat, I might hafta shoot myself.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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use those soft terry cloths for removing wax/polishes. and use the mitt for washing the car. thats what the mitt is made for. not wax. But as far as that terry cloth you used....dont use that anymore to wipe off wax unless you atleast wash it first, it will scratch the **** out of your paint. if that green stuff is automotive use, and you used it as specified, im sure you MAY be able to leave it on the paint (read the label) depends on the chemical. even if it wont damage it, the longer its on there, the harder its gonna be to take off.

as for the waterspots/clear coat peeling. Couldnt tell you unless i see it. if you left it to dry in the sun, it may very well be water spots. take your stage 1 meguairs and just do it on one of those spots, let it dry for a couple minutes then try to wipe it off, if it wont wipe off at all its damage.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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Lets assume the worst, and say that my car's paint is FUBAR'd. How much is a GOOD repaint going to cost me? I was thinking of doing this anyway. I want a ton of prepwork, black paint, and a clear coat. (I don't need a super mirrored shine.) I was thinking something along the lines of the stock color/reflection/etc, but an excellent job. OH! And if they could paint the "Pontiac" on the left flip up headlight gold (matched to the color of the rims), that would be awsome too. Please also account for minor bodywork, I have a couple of TINY dents.

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P.S. I'm assuming one of the stages of McGuire's involves letting it dry, and buffing it off, or waxing at least. With my experiences with this dry on stuff, would it be safe to assume, that I should only hit the smooth areas of the car? (Since any grooves will be IMPOSSIBLE to get the **** out of.)

What should I use when applying stages 1, 2, and 3?
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Old May 30, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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body work is hard to say. you can go to a body shop and get an estimate for free. Im in Canada, but I was quoted $1500 from the most reputible body shop around here, and they will strip everything, fix minor dents, they are separating the glass from the hatch, and one my colour is a milty stage pearl paint. Thats also through a buddy, so im saving a few hundred.....and keep in mind they are the most expensive around (best work by far) and thats Canadian dollars...so it would be under $1200 american.


for you wax, jsut wax the whole surface, if it goes in the cracks get a qtip or something to remove it. Go buy applicator pads from any store that sells care detailing stuff. The look like big round tampons. But use a separate applicator for each different wax. and just poir some wax on the applicator and wipe it all over your paint. let it dry and go wipe it off. if its really hard to wipe off it may not be dry. With the Meguiars 2 3 stage you gotta make sure your car is in the shade and paint is cool.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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my gf tried waxing her car, and she got wax streaks around her badging and on her rubber molding. I had the same problem with the oxidazaton remover. That's why I'm weary.

Bill
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Old May 30, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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the streak are just spots she didnt wipe well enough. the badging got in the way of the towel reaching the paint. as for the moulding. try not to get wax on it. it usually leaves white residue on it. but will most often fade off over time and washing your car.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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I never remember having trouble washing/waxing a car like this. I never use soap or any contemporary wash "kits" and only break out the wax once every 6 months or so.

Keep it simple.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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Hard to give you decent suggestions without seeing the car.

(you could always road trip to Maryland )

My suggestion to you would be, since you have already purchased the meguiar's stuff, call their customer service number, and have them give you step by step instructions on how to use their three step products. They are very good, and will be happy to help.

if you can take some pics and post them, I would be happy to give some suggestions.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Using dish soap is fine, and actually preferred method If first you want to polish the car for the first time. The dish soap will remove all the old polish/wax that is on the car and will allow you start from fresh.
Actually the old wax would be removed with the dish soap, but not polish as polish is not a protectant, it is to be removed from the paint unlike wax which leaves a fine coat for extended periods of time.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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I think im gonna try the first stage of mcguires, and hope it takes my scratches out. What about the same scratches in the windshield? Can I try the first stage on that, or do I need a new product?

I also think I'm gonna read the directions throughly, and anything that needs to be buffed or that drys on is only going on the smooth surfaces of my car. I dont want it getting stuck in grooves again, as I still have that green **** to get out

I sincerely hope I just have BAD WATERSPOTS and not SCREWED UP CLEARCOAT. I just don't see how water + sun = scewed up clearcoat.

This one wash job is going to take HOURS and HOURS of work to fix. What the hell?

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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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VERY IMPORTANT
Use microfiber towels to apply and remove the product...this will prevent it from making more scratches rather than removing them..also.. try to do it in the shade to prevent the stuff from baking into the paint.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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wait wait wait... thought i needed to use sheepskin and shammy.

CONFUSED

Forgive me guys. I just spent 7500 on a Trans Am last week. Thought it was mint. Then I find out I have leaky seals, rust (not too bad, but PO said it was rust free), and broken horn switches. I'm having hell with insurance companies. I have no garage, so my baby is stuck in the rain/sun to fade. And all I have is a crappy raincoat material cover on it with a hole cut for the antenna. I can't put on the good $70 cover until the power antenna gets fixed and goes down. And even after that goes on, the rain will still rust her underside out. Plus she's spent the past several days in the direct sun (Which I hope isn't enough to start to fade her.)

And when I try to give her a bath, guess what happens? I screw up, and now she went from looking awsome to looking like ****. And its going to take me hours to un-FUBAR her. That's assuming my clearcoat isn't totalled and I can get the scratches out of the paint and the front and rear windshield. Otherwise, I'll need a new paint job/front windshield/rear windshield.

Phew, needed to vent. Forgive me.

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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Ok yes you are supposed to use shepskin and shammy as well as the microfiber....the sheepskin to actually wash the car..the shammy (chamois i think it is lol) to dry it ...followed by the microfiber to polish or remove swirls
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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by Gr89RS
Ok yes you are supposed to use shepskin and shammy as well as the microfiber....the sheepskin to actually wash the car..the shammy (chamois i think it is lol) to dry it ...followed by the microfiber to polish or remove swirls
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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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Allright, someone's gotta give me a step by step, head is spinning.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Wait, you want us to explain again or what I am confused
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Old May 30, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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ok, i need a shammy (any specific kind?), sheepskin (non synthetic), and what else? when do i use what? and i need multiples of each for my different products and in case i drop one in the grit (which will happen knowing me)?

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Old May 30, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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Youll need some microfiber towels as stated, maybe get a bunch...try to use one to apply the polish and a seperate one to remove it...if you are using say 3 different meguairs products, then youll need at least two for each product..they can be found at autozone, walmart, and other places...if you drop them in the dirt, dont take any chances, wash them in the washer and try not to do it again.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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lol heres a checklist.

-rinse car with water
-soap car with a soft wash mitt (preferably non syntehic) and car soap
-rinse all soap off with water
-dry car with (non synthetic) chamois

anything that is gonna touch your paint.....dont let it get dirty and dont wash your wheels ESPECIALLY TIRES with it. (tires often contain silicon from tire dressing)

ok waxing:
-wait til car is dry, make sure it is in the shade and paint is cool to the touch
-apply stage 1 with wax applicator pad
-once wax is dry, remove it with soft (pref. microfibre) cloth
-using a separate wax applicator, apply stage 2.
-once wax is dry, remove it with soft (pref. microfibre) cloth
-using a separate wax applicator, apply stage 3
-once wax is dry, remove it with soft (pref. microfibre) cloth

Now sit back and enjoy the fruits of your labour
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Old May 30, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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A Word About Detailing

First of all I would like to say thank you for reading this. Second, I am not responsible for any damage you may cause to your car while following my guide. With that being said, I’d like to talk about detailing for a moment.

First we need to establish why it is a good idea to detail your car. The simple answer is money. Your car is an investment, one that you want to take care of. You will get more for your car when you go to sell it if it is in good condition. Other reasons, of course, include your own personal satisfaction, obsessive compulsive disorder and a myriad of other subjective reasons. In my mind, however, the biggest thing is protecting what you have worked so hard to earn.

There are many products on the market that claim to do wondrous things. Unfortunately for us, not many of them come through on their claims. Many companies put more effort into designing a cool looking package then they do creating a good product. It is my belief that a lot of the show cars shown on these packages have never seen the product being sold. With that said, I hope to show you guys products that follow through with their claims, instead of tricking you into believing your car will look like a show room Ferrari.

In my guide, I will be mostly covering my two favorite brands: Meguiars and Zaino. I am in no way, shape or form saying that other products such as Blackfire, Klasse, 3M and so on are no good. I am just going with the products I use and am familiar with.

Washing

Without a doubt, “did you just wash your car?” is the most common question when someone is awe inspired by your awesome shine. Consequently, “you need to wash your car” is the most common insult when it comes to car care. For this reason, I’m going to put a lot of emphasis on the way you wash your car and what products.

For starters, make sure you have all of your supplies ready to go. Time is of the essence when you are washing your car, especially if you aren’t washing it in the shade. Having your towels, wash mitts, leaf blower and everything else hooked up and ready to go will help your washing and drying process go much smoother, I’ll get to the reasoning behind this later.

It is an absolute must to have two wash mitts (100% sheepskin wash mitts only), one for wheels and your exhaust pipes and the other for the paint/glass and so on. Do not ever use your mitt for wheels on your paint, unless you want to create an ice skating rink.

It is also a good idea to have two buckets, one for your wheel mitt and the other for your paint. Please heed my advice on this, do not use the same mixture for both wheels/tires and the rest of the car.

The first thing you need to do is identify just how dirty your car is. Try to think of it in the following terms: dusty, dirty, pigsty.

These are the products I prescribe to use depending on how you rate your cars condition:

Dusty – Meguiars #00, Zaino Z7
Dirty – Meguiars NXT Wash, Zaino Z7
Pigsty – Meguiars #62
Complete Make Over – Dawn Soap

Use Dawn Soap only when you plan on redoing your car completely. You only need to use Dawn once and only on that particular occasion, at least until you want to redo your car entirely again.

Use one of the washes I have suggested once you have identified just how dirty your car is, or isn’t.

Follow the directions on the bottle, the company that manufacturers these products knows best. If it says three capfuls to one gallon of water, then do it that way.

Always fill your clean wash bucket with hot water, this will active more suds and hot water cleans much more efficiently then cold. You can use cold water to rinse, as most of us don’t have the luxury of having a hose that sprays hot.

It may sound like common sense, but put the product in your bucket first, then fill with hot water from the bottom up. Many people complain about being too sudsy and not enough water, the reason for this is because they filled it from the top up, which just creates more suds. Filling from the bottom or the middle will get you a nice blend of water to suds. Again, make sure your bucket is clean, even if that means rinsing it out.

You now have all your supplies out and ready to go. The first thing you should do is wet the wheels, tires and wheel wells. Then, using your wash mitt designated for these areas, start with your rims. Scrub them thoroughly to get rid of any brake dust. Make sure you get behind the spokes. Rinse them thoroughly when finished. Then move to the tires, not only should you get the side walls, but you should also get the tread. In other words, wash the entire tire. Again, rinse very thoroughly. Then move onto the wheel wells. Same deal, make sure you get every inch of the wheel well, as they are focal points for a car believe it or not. Rinse them out when finished. Using this same mitt, scrub your exhaust pipes as well and rinse. You especially want to do this if you have a nice dual exhaust setup and you want to keep the tips shiny.

Now that your wheels, tires and wheel wells are nice and clean, you are ready to move onto the next step.

Open your doors and trunk, using a spray bottle (or barley pulling the trigger on the hose) spray down the water catcher in the trunk, door jams and door sills. Take your wash mitt for paint and scrub them, and rinse. Take a microfiber towel and quickly run it through to dry the water. Door jams and so on are focal points to your car, and if you ever want to be in a car show, they have to be clean. You will lose major points over it.

Wet the entire car with your hose. Then grab your wash mitt and bucket that you have designated for the paint and begin at the top. Use a back and forth motion, avoid going in circles. You will not be as likely to get swirling in your paint this way. Use medium pressure while scrubbing, you may need to apply more if you come over a tough spot. Remember to keep your mitt well lubricated (meaning dunk it in the bucket every so often).

Work your way down to the bottom of the car. I personally like to divide my car up into sections. In my particular case, I wash the roof and all the glass and then rinse. Then I move onto the trunk lid, spoiler and rear bumper. Rinse that, then the entire side up to the end of the door, rinse. Then finish off with the hood, front bumper and quarter panels, and of course rinse. Find a method that works for you, I think that you will find that dividing it into sections will be best for you. This also helps you keep in mind where you have washed and what you still have to do.

Rinse the entire car again, just to make sure you got all of the suds. This process should not have taken you very long, especially if your car was not that dirty. Remember, time is of the essence when you wash, especially if your weather is hot out or you are washing in the sun (which I recommend against).

Quick tip – if you find your wash soap dying, grab your hose and shoot a jet into it, that should revitalize the suds. If not, you may need to add more wash to the mixture.

So let us recap:
-Have all supplies ready
-Supplies include your drying utensils (microfibers, terry cloths, leaf blower and so on), two 100% sheepskin wash mitts, two wash buckets containing your wash filled with hot water and of course your hose.
-Wet your wheels, tires, wheel wells and exhaust pipes with your hose.
-Wash your wheels, tires, wheel wells and exhaust pipes (and any other incredibly dirty area that is not paint) first. Rinse them thoroughly.
-Switch to your other mitt designated for paint.
Wet your door jams, door sills and the water catcher in the trunk, scrub and rinse.
-Wet the entire car.
-Wash from top to bottom, dividing the car into sections, rinsing each section as you go.
-Rinse entire car again.

I hope that clears up any problems regarding washing your car.
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Drying

Drying is something everyone complains about. No body likes to do it, most feel it takes too long. Hopefully I can convince everyone the importance of this step.

If you were smart, which I assume you are, you would have had all your drying supplies ready to go so that when you finished washing and rinsing, you would be ready to dry the car right away.

The first thing you should do is grab your leaf blower (if you have one) and blow all the water off. The nice thing about having a very well waxed/sealed car is water beads and just goes flying off the car when the leaf blower turns on. It really is a nice thing that makes drying even easier.

Much like washing, you want to start from the top. If you have the advantage of having a leaf blower, make sure you get all the cracks and crevices of your car as water likes to try to hide in them. Work your way down until the car has most of the water off it.

Also use your leaf blower to blow all the water out of your rims, tires and wheel wells. This is extremely useful as having dry tires and so on will not splatter water all over your car the second it moves more than a mile an hour.

Safety comes first, when using a leaf blower (or any other electronic) in a wet area make absolutely sure you have a GFI attached to the plug-in. A GFI will kick the power off instead of having that power routed into your body and killing you.

Now switch to your microfibers/terry cloths/chamois to get any other water. I personally recommend PakShak microfibers (more information on them later).

Right now you may be saying, “Michael, I don’t have a leaf blower! What do I do?” My advice would be to use the Absorber, it is basically a huge chamois. Just remember to make sure it is absolutely clean! Do not put a dirty towel or chamois on your paint, even if you dropped it for just a second. Get a new one in the event of that happening, and promptly wash the one you dropped. You should always have extras of towels and chamois.

Do not let your car air dry, this is a fast way to get water spots. If water spots are left on the paint too long, they can become etched into the paint and take a lot of extra work to get out and sometimes even professional assistance.

One good trick to make sure you get all the water off your car is to open your doors, hood and trunk and slam them shut. Not hard enough to break anything, but hard enough to rattle water out of its hiding spots. If you have a hood scoop on your car, then this is a must if you don’t have a leaf blower.

Here is the inevitable scenario: “I washed and dried my car as fast as I can, and I still got water spots. What do I do?” To this I will share a valuable secret, one that I discovered pretty much on accident.

Have you ever heard the expression, “The best way to cure a hang over is to drink more?” By now you are thinking, “you must have been drunk while writing this” but the truth is the same idea applies to car detailing. You have water spots, add more water! Grab your PakShak microfiber towel, dip a small part of it in clean water and rub at the fresh water spots (this will not work on old water spots). Simply rub them away and use the dry part of the towel to remove the water and before you know it, your fresh water spots are gone! If for whatever reason they refuse to leave, dip part of the towel in some clean soapy water (car washing soap only) and they will certainly leave. I call this trick the “just add water” method.

PakShak towels will not scratch your surface, ever. Unless they have dirt in them, in which case it is your own fault. That is why you can perform the “just add water” trick safely without problems if you are using a PakShak towel. I do not recommend doing this with any other towel. Yet another good reason to buy a few from PakShak.

Now for the recap:
-Dry immediately with your leaf blower, if you do not have a leaf blower, use your absorber or microfiber towels. I’m not big on terry towels, but you can also use them. Leaf blower is hands down the best drying tool known to man.
-After your use your leaf blower, grab your microfibers, chamois or terry towels and clean up the remaining water.
-Open and shut your hood, trunk and doors a few time to knock out any hiding water.
-Perform my “just add water” trick that I recently outlined if you have any fresh water spots.
-Make sure your tires are dry before you start driving anywhere, as they will kick water and possibly dirt and mud on your freshly washed and dried car.
-If at any point in time you drop a towel/chamois, pick up a new one and wash the one you dropped. Do not use a dirty towel on your car ever.
-Do not let it air dry, ever.

Surface Prep Part 1 – Clay Bar

Before I get into the clay bar step, I’d like to make it clear to everyone the importance of surface prep. It does not matter how good your wax or sealant is, if your surface is flawed, contaminated, oxidized or scratched up you will not have a good looking finish. It is absolutely vital to have an excellent surface.

Now onto the clay! It is asked all the time, “What is a clay bar? Why do I need to use it?” The truth is your car is nailed day after day by air born contaminants that get stuck in the clear, so small you can’t see them. Yet these contaminants are big enough to cause major damage. When you want to apply something like a wax over your clear, you need to make sure your surface is clean. Otherwise, you are just sealing all these terrible things in and damaging your car in the long run.

So to answer those questions, a clay bar is a piece of clay designed to remove these contaminants from your surface. For a clever analogy, clay is to your car as an epilator is to hair. In other words, it pulls it out, leaving the surface smooth as glass. I already explained earlier the damage you can do by not claying before you wax your car.

Remember, this does not mean every time you apply a layer of wax you need to clay. Quite on the contrary, clay removes wax as well. You only need to do this step one time (with possible spot jobs in the future), as it is the first step to your awesome surface.

There are many good brands of clay, my favorite are Meguiars Overspray (C-2000) and Zaino’s Z18 clay bar. The Meguiars clay is a bit more aggressive and leaves more residue, where as the Zaino bar is virtually residue free. The Zaino bar is also easier to mold, but either bar you choose will yield excellent results.

While on the subject of brands, Mothers and Clay Magic also make good ones, or so I have heard. I have never used them, but I hear a lot of good things about them as they are both popular products.

Anyhow, the key to a good clay job is the lubrication (that felt really odd to type, sorry). It is a good idea to spray the clay with your lube, as well as the surface. Remember, you are claying after you have washed and dried.

Lets talk lubrication for a moment, for the Meguiars C-2000 bar, use Meguiars #34 Final Inspection for lubricant. For Zaino, throw a capful of Z7 Car Wash Concentrate into a spray bottle and fill the rest up with water and shake it. This will provide adequate lube for the Zaino bar.

How much lube do you use? In the simplest terms, enough to make the clay glide over the surface, but not so much that it can’t detect any contaminants and yank them out. Usually one spray to the surface to every two or three sprays to the bar will be fine.

Run the lubed clay over the lubed surface, if you encounter any rough spots, you’ll know where to spend extra time on.

As you are going over the car, keep an eye out for defects in the paint, extremely stubborn spots and scratches. Write them down if you need to, you want to come back to these spots later when you get to using abrasives (providing you are using Meguiars).

Remove the residue and lube with a microfiber towel. Feel the surface, it should feel like glass. If it does, then you will know that area is clear. Another good test is if it is squeaky clean, literally. Rubbing your finger tip against it (no nail), should create a squeak noise, which means you are good to go.

Do this process over the entire car. One very important part of claying is to make sure you knead (or mold) the clay every so often. Take a look at the clay every so often, if you see any dirt in it, mush it up real good so you reveal a clean side.

To get the most out of your clay, cut the bar into about three to four pieces. Each piece can do one car, one time. Discard the bar after you are done.

Once your surface is squeaky clean everywhere, you will be ready to start taking care of any scratches and swirls in your surface.
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Recap:
-My favorite clay brands are Meguiars C-2000 (from the Professional Series) and Zaino Z18. Mothers and Clay Magic are supposedly good brands; don’t be afraid to try them out.
-Lubricate the bar and the surface with Meguiars #34 or Z7 Car Wash Concentrate as needed. Just don’t use too much or too little, happy mediums are important here.
-Remove the residue and lube with a microfiber towel.
-Knead, mold or mush the clay up as needed. If you see dirt in it, then you will know that you need to reveal a clean side.
-Write down defects, stubborn spots and scratches as you go, you will be coming back to them later.
-Your surface should feel smooth as glass, if it isn’t, then you missed a spot. Rub your finger tips across the surface with a little bit of force, if the paint squeaks, then it is clean. If not, then it might need some more work.
-You will only need to do this process once, not every time you wax.

Surface Prep Part 2 – Polishing

First thing is first, we need to define the term “polishing.” There is no industry standard for the term “polish.” If you are talking polish in terms of Zaino, it is going to refer to a non-abrasive filler or a polymer sealant. If you are talking in terms of Meguiars, it is going to mean an abrasive designed to remove flaws from the paint, rather then filling them in. I see it all the time, people saying they polished their car when they really don’t understand what they are saying.

For all intents and purposes, I am merely going to define polishing as the step prior to your final layer(s) of sealant.

It is not a good idea to leave your paint unprotected for very long. Once you finish claying, you’ve got to move into the next step as soon as possible.

You have just finished claying your car and it looks great. The paint is smooth as glass, but chances are it lacks luster, and worst of all, it is completely open to the elements. At this point in time, your paint is at its most vulnerable point. On the same token, it is also at its cleanest, purest and ready to be worked on.

Now let us discuss just what polish we want to use. The two I am going to discuss are Zaino products and Meguiars Professional Series products.

But first, the question is “what one should I pick?” Here are the differences:

Zaino
-Can be applied in sun.
-Application is by hand.
-Takes less than half an ounce of polish to do an entire layer.
-Requires more time to dry.
-Fills swirls.
-Amazing durability.
-Hard, glass like shine.

Meguiars
-Abrasives remove scratches completely.
-Application is best by Porter Cable 7424 Dual Action Polisher.
-Requires less time to dry.
-You will go through more of the bottle.
-Good durability.
-Deep and soft shine.

Either way you are a winner, the choice is up to you.

Recap:
-Fillers level your paint, giving it an even appearance although in reality the scratches are still there.
-Abrasives are designed to remove the scratches completely.
-There is no industry standard for the term polish. I simply define it here as being the step you do before the sealant.
-After you have clayed, your paint is at its most vulnerable, as well as its cleanest. Don’t leave it vulnerable very long.
-Zaino gives a harder shine while Meguiars gives a softer shine, it just depends on your preference. Zaino is also more durable, but that isn’t to say Meguiars isn’t durable.

Polishing with Zaino Products

If you have chosen to go the Zaino route, then you are going to want to give your car a layer of Z5 Swirl Remover. I strongly suggest getting the cure accelerator for your Zaino products, so you don’t have to use Z1.

Zaino products are very easy to apply by hand, and less than half an ounce can put an entire layer on the car. Here is the trick to do that: grab a spray bottle that just has water in it and mist your applicator pad (use the Zaino pads only). Then put a dab on the pad and mist it again.

Then apply it to the car and work it in. You will find that it stretches out quite a distance for only using a small dab of the substance. Re-dab as needed and re-mist as needed.

You will know the Z5 has gone to work because the area you applied will be a bit hazy, indicating that you did in fact get the polish on it. Let it sit for half an hour (this is going under the assumption your weather is at least 60 degrees and you are using the cure accelerator).

Zaino can be applied in the sun, so if you feel like working on your tan then by all means move your car into the sun. Zaino can also be applied in extreme heat. If your weather is below 60 degrees it may take anywhere from 45 minutes to a few hours if you are using the cure accelerator.

Once the wait is over, simply grab your PakShak towel and remove it. It will come off very easily and leave behind a nice and even shine to your paint. The product fills in swirls, so it essentially “levels” your paint, effectively hiding swirls.

Apply another layer if you like. The great thing about Zaino Z5 and Z2 is they can be used one after the other as many times as you like. It is advised you finish with Z2, though. In other words you can go Z5, Z5, Z5, Z2, Z2, Z5, Z2 or any other combination you want to do, just make sure Z2 is the last one. You can also throw Z6 in the mix, but we will get to all that later. Some people have 50 plus layers of Zaino on their car, and it shows.

You are now ready to apply the sealant, which in this case would be Z2 Show Car Polish. But first, a look at your options with The Meguiars Professional Series.

Recap:-Z5 is your weapon of choice from Zaino, it is an excellent filler.
-The nice thing about Z5 is you can always apply it anytime you want, as long as you have washed your car first to remove any loose dirt and grime.
-Zaino can be applied in direct sunlight without problem.
-Misting your pad with a spray bottle will help spread the product much more evenly, and enable you to use less than half an ounce of the product to do the entire car.
-Always use the cure accelerator to save time. It is well worth it.

Polishing with Meguiars Professional Series Products

Unlike Zaino, we do not want to apply in sunlight. Get your car into a shaded area or at least out of direct sunlight.
Hands down, the best way to get results out of the products I am going to mention (and depending on the product, the only way) is to use a Porter Cable 7424 Dual Action Polisher equipped with a yellow cutting pad (more info on products later). Using one will take less time, better results and less “layers.”

The reason I quoted the word “layers” was to put emphasis on the word because I used it for lack of a better term. These products, when removed, are gone. They go in, do their job, and leave. Just an FYI for you all.

Here are the products you can safely use by hand:

#9 Swirl Remover 2.0
#82 Swirl Free Polish
#97 Medallion Premium Paint Cleaner

The following need at least a Porter Cable 7424 Dual Action Polisher:

#2 Fine Cut Cleaner
#83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish

A word about the #2 Fine Cut Cleaner. The directions say rotary only. I have discovered this to be not so true. I did some research and found that back when they first made the product, a dual action polisher was all you needed. Nothing has changed as far as I know. I’ve had no problems using it with my dual action polisher. It is definitely not for hand, though.

Regardless of if you are applying by hand or by machine, make sure you work the product in very well. Almost to a point of where you can’t even see it anymore. You want to break the abrasives down as much as possible.

Much like washing your car, you want to separate your car into sections while working on it. For example, do your roof thoroughly, wipe it off with your clean microfiber towel and then move to another section. It just helps you keep in mind where you have been instead of jumping all over the place.

Out of the products I have recommended, here is what I strongly recommend you do:

Remember in the clay bar section when I told you to write down or remember defects and what not? Well, the following is going to tell you why:

Grab your #83 or #2 with your DAP and get to work on those areas, this is called “spot work.” You do not need to use such abrasive products over the entire car. The key to abrasives is to use the least abrasive product possible, but abrasive enough to get the desired results. This ensures safety. Once you have taken care of your spot work, it is time to move onto the entire car (including the spots you just did).

I suggest using #9 next. Go over the entire car, slowly but surely. Make sure you work the product in nicely, and remove it just as well. Change your towel as needed. Your cars paint should feel even more squeaky clean. Your surface should also look a lot smoother to the eye, without so many scratches or swirls.

Now switch to #82 and do the same process. Your surface should have more depth to it now, as #82 tends to remove any haze the #9 may have created.

You are now ready to seal the deal!

Recap:-These products should be applied by Porter Cable 7424 Dual Action Polisher with a yellow cutting pad rather then by hand.
-#9, #82 and #97 can be applied safely by hand, if you so choose.
-#2 and #83 cannot be applied safely by hand, don’t get any bright ideas.
-Do spot work over stubborn areas and paint defects with #2 or #83. Work the products in very thoroughly with your DAP.
-Go over the entire car thoroughly with #9, separating the car into sections. Remove the product before switching to another section.
-Same deal as above, just use #82 to give the paint some depth and to remove some of the haze that may have been created.
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Sealants

Everybody’s favorite step, and with good reason! People always ask, “man that is a shiny car did you wax it or something?” and other comments. However, you have to remember that the surface prep you just did is what is going to give you that good shine. No surface prep means no shine.

Your surface prep is done and your car is probably looking better than ever, especially if this is your first time through. Now you are ready to seal the deal with your Zaino or Meguiars products.

Sealing with Zaino

So you have just used your Z5 and the cars surface is smooth and the paint looks deep. Now you want to take it to the next level and apply one of the most durable products known to man, Z2.

Z2, much like Z5, only needs a little under half an ounce to give the car a layer. Again, use the cure accelerator.

Your method of application is the exact same, mist the Zaino pad, dab the product on it, and mist again. Apply to one section and let it sit. Then move onto the next. After you finish and the car still has the product all over it, let it sit for about half an hour. There is no such thing as waiting too long with Zaino, it can sit for days and come off like butter if you want.

The cure accelerator eliminates the need to wait days, though. Remove it with your PakShak towel to reveal a very superior shine and an incredibly slick surface. Pretty amazing given the ultra thin layer you put on, huh?

Apply another layer of Z5 or Z2 if you want. You can even put Z6 on if you want. Z6 is just a spray that you remove immediately after spraying on the car. Don’t let it dry.

Remember, no matter what you do, Z2 should always be the last layer applied. But you can always put on a layer of Z5, just put the Z2 on over it after you finish going through the process.

Recap:
-Application is the exact same as Z5.
-Z5 and Z2 are interchangeable and can be applied in any order you wish, just make sure Z2 is the last layer (or top layer) applied.
-Congratulations, you have just applied the most durable paint protection system ever made.
Sealing with Meguiars

You are going to be doing this by machine as well. However, these products can all be applied by hand if you don’t want to invest in a machine (although it really pays for itself).

First you are going to be adding a layer of glaze to your car, this will really make your sealant shine. When using a dual action polisher, you want a white foam pad to apply with.

Your choices:
#7 Show Car Glaze
#81 Hand Polish

#7 is good all around, #81 tends to be best on dark paints.

You want to apply a thin layer of whatever product you choose. Let the product haze before you remove it. Don’t let it sit too long, or it will take a lot of effort to remove. After you remove it, your paint should look very deep, especially if you have a dark paint. The surface will no longer squeak either; it will be very oily and smooth.

Now that the glaze is done, it is time for the sealant! Use a grey pad with your DAP.

Here are your choices:
#20 Polymer Sealant
#26 Hi-Tech Yellow Wax
#98 Medallion Premium Paint Protection
NXT Tech Wax

NXT is in the list with good reason, although it isn’t part of the Professional Series, it is still a great product. Like Zaino, it has a good swirl filling capability.

Apply the same way you did the glaze (by hand or machine), letting the products haze and removing with your clean microfiber towel.

Out of all the products listed, I like #26 the best. The depth of it is amazing and the surface is unbelievably slick after you apply it. It isn’t as durable as the #98, though. #20 is great on silvers and whites. NXT is good for pretty much any color.

Recap:
-Glaze first with #7 or #81, #81 is best for dark paints. These products use white foam pads on a DAP.
-All of the sealants (26, 20, 98 and NXT) use grey pads on the DAP.
-Seal with #26 for a deep and soft shine.
-Seal with #20 if you have a lighter colored car.
-Seal with #98 if you want pretty good depth and a lot of durability.
-Seal with NXT for pretty much any color, it is good all around product.

Your paint should now feel slick and look excellent regardless of which product you chose. Congratulations on making it through such a tiring process! Now all you have to do is maintain it!

Maintaining – Zaino

Maintenance with Zaino is very easy. Regular washes with the Z7 Car Wash Concentrate and a thorough drying job are all you need to do. Water beads off the car very nicely with Zaino products, which makes drying that much easier. The second you turn on your leaf blower, the water scatters like water bugs and it is dry before you know it.

After you wash it, use the Z6 Ultra Clean Gloss Enhancer if you like. It is often called “slickness in a bottle” for obvious reasons. You don’t have to put Z2 over it, although you can if you want.

Simply spray the Z6 on and wipe it off right away. If some dries, simply re-spray and wipe and it will be gone.

Maintaining with Zaino is that simple!

Recap:
-Wash regularly with Z7 Car Wash Concentrate.
-Dry
-Apply Z6 Ultra Clean Gloss Enhancer and remove.

Maintaining – Meguiars

Much like Zaino, Meguiars makes water bead very easily. Regular washes with #00 Hi-Tech Car Wash or NXT Car Wash are going to give you excellent results. Meguiars also offers other alternatives to washing your car everytime you want to see it clean.

You can use either Meguiars Quik Detailer or #34 Final Inspection if your car is only dusty. If you have any dirt caked on, then you are going to want to wash it. Otherwise, you can use one of these two products with one of your microfiber towels to take care of it. You might find yourself doing this several times in a day, as the more you do it, the more obsessive you become.

Recap:
-Regular washes with #00 or NXT Car Wash are a good way to do it.
-Meguiars Quik Detailer or #34 will also work well if the car is only dusty, not dirty. Dusty includes things like pollen; it does not include mud or grime.

Make Over – In Simple Order

Some of you may be feeling “that is too much to read!” or “cliff notes!” So I will lay it out like this for you:

Meguiars Professional Series Route:
-Dawn wash
-Clay (C-2000)
-Spot work with #2 or #83 (yellow pad, DAP only for this step)
-#9 (yellow pad or by hand)
-#82 (yellow pad or by hand)
-#7 or #81 (white pad or by hand)
-#20, #26, #98 or NXT (grey pad or by hand)

Zaino Route (all by hand):
-Dawn wash
-Clay (Z17)
-Z5
-Z2
-Z5
-Z2

Glass

If your glass has rain spots etched into the paint then your prayers have been answered. Zaino Z12 is one of my favorite products, ever. This stuff cleans glass better than anything I have ever seen. I have not found one problem with my glass that product could not remove.

It even cleaned up my dads 1964 Corvette window very nicely. This stuff is the real deal.

All you need to do is put a dab of it on an applicator pad or a towel and work the product into the glass. You’ll see the spots disappear before your very eyes. Let the product haze and then remove it with a clean towel.

This product can also help remove small scratches in the glass, it is that good.

You also only need to do this process once, after that, a good product like Stoners Invisible Glass or Sprayway Glass Cleaner will be all you need to maintain it. Of course you can always use the Zaino Z12 again if you find a spot the regular stuff won’t remove.

When using a product like Stoners or Sprayway, it is not a bad idea to use newspaper to remove it. Yes, newspaper. The only problem is you can get ink from the paper on your hands, so wash them before doing anything else. This works better than a towel, as towels tend to leave lint on your glass. Paper towels can be used as well, but newspaper is still the best.

Use Zaino Z12 on your side mirrors as well. They come out very nicely.

Recap:
-Zaino Z12 is the best glass cleaner I’ve ever used. It will remove any rain spot or stain you have.
-It can also help with scratches, although if they are too deep it can’t do anything about it.
-Apply the Z12 with an applicator pad or a towel, let it haze and remove with a clean part of the towel.
-Maintain it with regular glass cleaner like Stoners or Sprayway. Use newspaper instead of towels when using your regular glass cleaner. Paper towels are also okay, but newspaper is best.
-If you use newspaper, wash your hands before touching anything else.
-Z12 your side mirrors.

Trim and Exterior Plastics

A lot of us have white residue from the times we have waxed and accidentally got it on our trim. There are a few ways to go about fixing this problem.

The first is to get one of those white office erasers. For one reason or another, it is able to remove the residue. I have also heard peanut butter does the trick, but I’ve never tried that myself.

Zaino Z14 contains mild abrasives that will also get rid of the white residue and clean your trim and plastics. This can be used on any of your plastics. Simply follow the directions on the bottle and you’re set.

After you use Zaino, you can add more shine to your trim and plastics by applying Meguiars NXT Tech Protectant to it. Between the two products, your trim should come out looking great!

It isn’t a bad idea to use all three of these methods on the same piece of trim, in the order I listed them.

If you have a honey comb grille or any other outside plastics (such as the mirror casings and weather stripping), Mothers Back-To-Black is a great product to use. Apply it with a small paint brush if you can.

Recap:
-White officer erasers can remove white residue from your trim.
-Zaino Z14 is a good product for this as well.
-Follow with NXT Tech Protectant for more shine.
-The three methods can be used together for best results.
-Other plastics, such as your grille, look great when you use Mothers Back-To-Black on them, I like to apply it with a small paint brush.

Tire Dressing, Wheel Polish and Wheel Well Detailing

So now you have your paint looking amazing, your glass clean and your plastics shiny. However, your tires look stale, your wheels dull and your wheel wells are ruining the appearance of the car. There are a number of ways you can go about getting these areas up to par.

First we will discuss the tire dressing. Your tires should be clean from when you washed, especially the side walls. Only apply dressing to the side wall.

My favorite tire dressing is Zaino Z16 Perfect Tire Gloss. The reason I like it, is because it isn’t too shiny. I’ve never been a fan of overly glossy tires, just nice black ones with a dull shine. This product delivers on my particular needs.

If you want a shiny tire, then try this: get some Meguiars #40, spray it on a cloth, apply and remove. Then get some Meguiars Hot Shine Tire Spray and spray evenly over it. Let it sit for a few and then remove. Your tires should be very shiny.

Avoid products like Armor All (Harms-It-All). They will choke the life out of anything you put it on, the silicones dry it out making it thirst for more. If you switch products, it goes into shock and cracks. Armor All is heroin for your car.

Now onto polishing your wheels, my favorite polish is Meguiars #28 All Metal Polish. This stuff gives such a great shine and not to mention the smell of it is awesome. You only need a dab as a little bit goes a long way. Simply apply it with a clean cloth and remove it. Try to get it everywhere you can, including behind the spokes and be sure to get the lip of the rim. Your wheels should be clean when you do this.

For your wheel wells, I have found that Mothers Back-To-Black works very well. You can put some of it in a spray bottle, fill with hot water and shake it up to create a spray out of it. Or just apply it straight out of the bottle. Simply apply and remove, your wheel wells should, at the very least, look black and no longer sticking out like a sore thumb.

Recap:
-For a black and dull tire, use Zaino Z16 Perfect Tire Gloss.
-For a black and shiny tire, use Meguiars #40 followed by Meguiars Hot Shine Tire Spray.
-Polish your wheels with Meguiars #28 All Metal Polish.
-Use Mothers Back-To-Black on your wheel wells.

Interior

Now that the outside of your car is completely done, you are ready to work on the interior. You can also do your interior before your exterior if you like, but the way I do my car it doesn’t matter either way.

The first thing you are going to want to do is clean your interior glass. Use a non-ammonia based cleaner. Your glass shouldn’t have any real problems on the inside that your average cleaner can’t handle, so there shouldn’t be a need for the Zaino Z12. Use newspaper again, just be careful to not touch your seats or anything like that with ink on your hands.

Be sure to clean the glass on your rearview mirror as well.

Next step for your interior is all the plastics. If you have any stains in them that won’t come out, use Zaino Z14 Plastic Magic to get them out.

After you do that, it all comes down to your nose. Do you like a sweeter smell or a “new car” smell? Meguiars NXT Tech Protectant offers a nice sweet smell that isn’t noxious at all. Meguiars #40 offers a more “classy” and new car smell. Either way, it will clean and protect your interior plastics very nicely. Don’t forget to get the plastics that cover your gauge cluster! They also won’t dry out your plastics or make them dependent on the product, such as Harms-It-All.

Take a Q-Tip and clean out your heater vents, as dust and dirt seems to settle in them. Also be sure to pull off your AC control ***** and clean them up, and behind them if needed.

Next, vacuum your carpets and seats. If you have any stains, use Meguiars Heavy Duty Carpet Cleaner or Blue Corral Dri-Clean to lift them out. If they are horrible stains, they may require an actual dry cleaning or carpet cleaning.

If you have leather seats, you have two good options: Zaino Z9 & Z10 or Meguiars #96 Medallion Premium Leather Care.

If you are using Zaino, clean your leather with Z9 first, then apply the Z10. Z10 will soften it up and make it feel brand new.

For Meguiars, apply the #96 over a clean seat and remove.

Either way, your leather should look, feel and smell brand new. We all love the smell of new leather and you can have it at your disposal with these products.

Do all this and you will have a very comfortable interior, one of which you will not feel embarrassed to sit in or go out in a date in.

Maintain your interior by simply pulling out your carpet mats and shaking them out. Clean the glass and plastics as necessary. Using interior wipes from Meguiars isn’t a bad idea.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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Recap:
-Clean interior glass with a non-ammonia based cleaner, as well as rear view mirror.
-Clean your plastics, dash and what not with Z14 Plastic Magic if they are stained. If not, use NXT Tech Protectant or Meguiars #40 depending on your preference of smell.
-Use a Q-Tip to clean out your heater vents.
-Pull off AC ***** and clean them.
-Vaccuum your seats and carpets.
-Use Blue Corral Dri-Clean or Meguiars Heavy Duty Carpet Cleaner to lift stains.
-Clean leather (if you have any) with Zaino Z9 & Z10 or Meguiars #96.
-Maintain your nice and clean interior by shaking out your mats every now and then and cleaning the glass and plastics as needed. Feel free to use Meguiars wipes as needed.

Detailing Tools and Products – Where To Buy

In this section, I will point you in the direction of what tools and products you want and where to get them.

Porter Cable 7424 Dual Action Polisher – The ultimate detailing machine! If you are going to be using Meguiars, this thing will be your best friend. You can use it with Zaino (and a million other products also) but you will waste too much of it to be worth it.

Yellow, White and Grey Pads – Yellow is for your abrasives (such as #9), white is for your glazes (#7, #81) and grey is for your sealants (#26, #20, #98, NXT).

PakShak Microfiber Towels – The best towels your money can buy. Punch in “autopia” for your discount code when ordering! The prices will be adjusted manually, so don’t panic when your invoice online does not show a change in price.

Meguiars Professional Series Products – One of my favorite product lines can be found here. You can order anything you want from them. You can also use their search function to find out who in your area carries their products so you don’t have to pay shipping.

Zaino Products – Home of Zaino Products! Not many places carry Zaino products, as it is largely based online. No matter how big your order, your shipping is a fixed rate. Don’t be afraid to buy these products!

Autopia.org – The best car detailing page on the net. They have many product reviews and tutorials on car detailing, amongst a ton of other great info. I learned most of my tips and tricks from them.

Mr. Nice's Detail Guide – The original guide can still be found here.

A Few Words

I hope you have enjoyed reading my guide. I hope that it was not too dry of a read and answered any questions you may have had. Of course you can always feel free to ask questions and I will do my best to answer them. If there is anything I have forgotten or you would like to see added to this guide, I will take it into consideration. Naturally, comments and criticisms alike are welcome.

Remember, there is not any one “right” way to detail your car. Different people have different eyes, and not all of us can see swirls, scratches and other things as well as others. For some people, a simple cleaner wax does the trick. For others, like myself, it takes multiple steps to cure the itch. Either way, it is a completely subjective experience with varying intensity depending on what kind of person you are. The bottom line is this:

We can all appreciate a car that has been well maintained!

Good luck and happy detailing!

Sincerely,

Michael Brezina
Mr. Nice



I hope that wasn't too much
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Old May 31, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Basically, everything Genopsyde wrote and more can be found here: www.autopia.com
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Old May 31, 2005 | 01:41 AM
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Wow, that’s a lot more complicated then I do it, at work or at home.

At the car dealership, the wash starts out with spraying some green liquid onto the wheels and tires, then scrubbing it and rinsing it. Then you fill a bucket with water, and pour the pink soap into the bucket. Go over the entire car with the sponge (not including the tires/wheels), and rinse. They have spray wax that makes the water bead; spray on and rinse off. After that a squeegee is used, then a regular towel.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 03:09 AM
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I use Meguiars Soap, huge sponge, the Absorber, Meguiars applicators, Flashwax, and microfibre cloth. I also have a blue clay bar just in case.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Ok, so the micro fiber towels are going to put little scraches in the stages so that they next layer can go on top? Off the shelf, are they called microfiber towels? Or do they have a different name, and microfibers are in the description?

Which stages of Mcguires really show if you dont get them out 100%? What Im really trying to ask is, which stages can i put all over the car, and which ones should I keep away from the cracks and crevacies (hood vents, etc), so I'm not taking it out for the course of the next year.

Do I still use the microfiber to scratch the last stage? Or do I want something that isn't gonna put in little scratches?

Regarding the tiny scratches in mywindshiled.... any product to take those suckers out?

And finally, should I buy scratch x and use it before the 3 stage, or just hope that the 3 stage does the job?

-exhales-

Thanks guys,
Bill
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Old May 31, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by TransAm12sec
Wow, that’s a lot more complicated then I do it, at work or at home.

At the car dealership, the wash starts out with spraying some green liquid onto the wheels and tires, then scrubbing it and rinsing it. Then you fill a bucket with water, and pour the pink soap into the bucket. Go over the entire car with the sponge (not including the tires/wheels), and rinse. They have spray wax that makes the water bead; spray on and rinse off. After that a squeegee is used, then a regular towel.

and here, if you should ever wonder, is the first stage of DISO.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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DISO?
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Old May 31, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by wgripp
Ok, so the micro fiber towels are going to put little scraches in the stages so that they next layer can go on top?

You're getting confused... Micro fiber towels are used so that no scratches are made. Regular towels leave scratches, so they shouldn't be used.

Regular towels = scratches = bad

Micro fiber towels = no scratches = good



As far as the cracks, emblems, hood, vents, etc goes... you should never pass over a crack, decal, etc when applying or removing wax or polish in any stage unless it dries totally clear... and even then, you should avoid getting it on plastic as it may discolor.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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I originally used special car wash towels in the first place, they just contributed to my problem! Does the packaging say "non synthetic micro fiber towels" or is there some brand name I gotta look for?

ARRRR

Bill

P.S. any tips on getting that green crap off? Q-Tip? (will that scratch?)
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Old May 31, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by wgripp
I originally used special car wash towels in the first place, they just contributed to my problem! Does the packaging say "non synthetic micro fiber towels" or is there some brand name I gotta look for?

ARRRR

Bill

P.S. any tips on getting that green crap off? Q-Tip? (will that scratch?)

first off, DISO is Dealer Installed Swirl Option.

Second .. the point here is CLEAN micro fiber towels .. if you drop them on the ground, or use them to wash/dry your wheels, or fenderwells or anythign that can pick up littlebits of dirt and grime, then they will scratch.

if you drop your towel or mitt, grab another.

also , make sure they are decent micro fibers, not cheap, imitation crap. and keep them clean.

as for getting the green stuff off .. one of the ways to remove dried on crpa, is to use more of the crap to get it off .. A qtip will work fine, if you are careful .. remember, you can scratch your paint with almost anything, if you rub hard or long enough.

read the bottle, follow the directions for use, and see if it will come off that way.

Make sure that you don't allow any product to dry on your paint unless it is designed to do that. read and follow the instructions. Some paint cleaners and oxidation removers don't recommend allowing the product to dry.


care and upkeep of the paint is a fairly straight forward process. one of the biggest helps is having the proper tools and chemicals .. most expensive is not always the best, but stick with brand name stuff.. Meguiar's, Zaino, Poor Boy's, 3M .. stuff like that .


if you can , post some pics .. close ups of your problem areas. there is a lot of good advice here, and a lot of guys willing to help, but it is hard to give specific advice working blind..
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Old May 31, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by wgripp
I originally used special car wash towels in the first place, they just contributed to my problem!

Wait a minute, are you using the towels to wash the car? You should be using a wool mit to wash and the micro fiber towels for applying and removing the polish/wax only.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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lol...this thread title should be changed to "washing our 3rd gens 101"

Originally posted by FlyinLow89

3. Buy a nice soft (non synthetic) chamois to dry it. dont bother with rags or towels.

How about a california dry blade ...I use it and it kicks...
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Old May 31, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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What is a cali dry blade? and yes i was using the towels to wash my car.

Anyone know how to get the grit scrapes out of my windshield/windows?

Will the McGuires 3 Stage get the grit scrapes/watermarks from hell (hopefully not damaged clearcoat) outta my paint or will i need a seperate product?

Bill
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Old May 31, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by wgripp
What is a cali dry blade? and yes i was using the towels to wash my car.

Anyone know how to get the grit scrapes out of my windshield/windows?

Will the McGuires 3 Stage get the grit scrapes/watermarks from hell (hopefully not damaged clearcoat) outta my paint or will i need a seperate product?

Bill
try it .. if it does, great, if not, then you can try something stronger ..

first rule of removing swirls and scratches is always use the most gentle product posssible to achieve the desired results.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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Wait a minute, are you using the towels to wash the car? You should be using a wool mit to wash and the micro fiber towels for applying and removing the polish/wax only.
He was referring to car wash towels not micro fiber towels, and it is okay to wash with a microfiber if you desire to...i do it all the time
And since no one else answered your question, yes they are called micro fiber towels and will be labeled that way
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Gr89RS
He was referring to car wash towels not micro fiber towels, and it is okay to wash with a microfiber if you desire to...i do it all the time
And since no one else answered your question, yes they are called micro fiber towels and will be labeled that way
Actually it's not recommended to wash with a micro-fiber towel, especially on a black (or other dark color) car. A micro fiber towel doesn't have enough surface area to trap dirt away from the surface like a thick mit does, which leads to scratches in the paint as you wash.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Re: I should not be allowed to wash cars

wow...lost for words
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Re: I should not be allowed to wash cars

Originally Posted by oscarsrs
wow...lost for words

...and time. 4 year old thread comes back to life near Halloween
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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Re: I should not be allowed to wash cars

Glad I missed this one first time around!!!.................BILL
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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Re: I should not be allowed to wash cars

wow that 1 guy put a much of good stuff up but look he didnt type it he just copied and pasted it cant take 5 minutes to type all that up it took me about 20mins to read the whole thing
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