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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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So my gf doesn't care much for the tail lights on her 92 RS B4C. They are the gridded tail lights, standard on 90-92 models to my knowledge.

I've seen pictures of the earlier model single-line tail lights, like these:


What kind of other factory, modified factory, or aftermarket options are there?

Aesthetically, the thing she doesn't like is the black lines separating the different light colors. Is there anything with a similar color-design but no black separating lines?

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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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yes, my buddies 85 sportcoupe has those same taillights, minus the horizontal line, from the factory.

i believe they're known as the 82-85 base model/berlinetta taillights, then the black lined ones were considered the "Z28" model, which then became the base model in 86. Gridded taillights were introduced in 85.

i think i've got my facts straight

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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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export taillights(2-3 different versions of those?)

or you can paint the yellow part black or red
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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yea they have those exact tailights without the black strip running horizontally....found on the earlier models
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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sorry for the bad picture quality.. but these?
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Thanks for the pic, yeah I've seen those now with more searching. But apparently the problem actually isn't the black lines. When she said she didn't like the "grid" look, she was referring to the actual plastic itself. Apparently the plastic has the same texture as something like a glass sliding door, in terms of how it looks when you're looking "through" the plastic itself. Apparently that isn't satisfactory Womens, not quite sure how to fix that
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Or a different approach . . . how about tail light covers?


I'm not saying I like them or not, just another option. Never know.
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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Yeah she might like those, the car will be black once the mechanical work is done. Thanks
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ecetim
Thanks for the pic, yeah I've seen those now with more searching. But apparently the problem actually isn't the black lines. When she said she didn't like the "grid" look, she was referring to the actual plastic itself. Apparently the plastic has the same texture as something like a glass sliding door, in terms of how it looks when you're looking "through" the plastic itself. Apparently that isn't satisfactory Womens, not quite sure how to fix that
tell her too f-in' bad, the cars were made like this for 10 years.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 01:38 AM
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wetsand and polish them for a smoother shine.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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hey where can u buy those tail light covers from?
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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vette lights

On this site i've seen someone had corvette style tail lights and i remember seeing them somewhere online but i cant remember where. If i find them i'll post.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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Why would you want to change the tailights on a b4c I would keep that baby all original except for maybe some performance upgrades
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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Yeah you are crazy if you change the lights on a B4C car. The grid lights are the most sought after taillights for these cars and they look about 473% better then aything else available. There are no aftermarket lights available. You can go with the blackouts which is what I'd recommend as it should give you the smooth look that shes going for without destroying or lossing the grid lights. AVS is the company that makes the blackouts. GTS used to make them but I think they are out of business.

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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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i took my stock 89 tail lights and painted the orange part red with testors paint.

some ppl have painted that part black with tail light black out paint. either way i think it looks a ton better, and more modern look
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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in my opinion, i feel the gridded taillights are of a lesser quality, and i haven't seen a pair shine anything like the earlier 82-87 base/z28 varieties.

I am currently wetsanding a pair of 82-85 SC tailights, so we'll see!

not to flame anyone, just my own tastes.

Orr89RocZ, i really like how you've modified yours, brought the back end up to date. props.

brandon
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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If you're still thinking of what mod to do, I'd do what Orr89RocZ did. I think it looks much better.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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how I did mine

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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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i was worried about being legal, so i kept mine red....else i would have done what camaroguy did....that just looks plain awesome.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ
i was worried about being legal, so i kept mine red....else i would have done what camaroguy did....that just looks plain awesome.
yea there's definatly a legality issue with painting them black...they're only slightly visible at night...and not a chance by day. But I figured with my application (being that the car gets out a handful of times each year) I would risk it...if I had grids, I would paint them red
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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corvette style tail lights

These are on fbodymotorsports.com and are a direct bolt on part
82-92 ZR1 Taillight Panel Price: $499.00
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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These are on fbodymotorsports.com and are a direct bolt on part
82-92 ZR1 Taillight Panel Price: $499.00


anyone that would be willing to pay that price for those is in need of a head check
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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I agree....The dont go with 3rd gens at all...
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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I would totally sport those, who cares. Nothing aftermarket goes with these cars. Oh well, didnt'dont mean to flame.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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I would totally sport those, who cares. Nothing aftermarket goes with these cars. Oh well, didnt'dont mean to flame.


that makes a ton of sense
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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misunderstood?

I have been lurking here forever before I signed up to test the waters. It seems whenever anything bodywise that may be different or cooler to younger posters such as my self there is a huge argument about rice and how these are american "muscle" cars. Hense my seemingly contradictory statement, sarcasm.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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Just stick with the ones you got, polish them really well and call it a day. The Grid lights(tri-strip) are there just to be different and suck. The early models without the the black strip to seperate top and bottom are just plain out tacky, it's almost like there the half off deal or the strip is on lay away.

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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaroguy18
yea there's definatly a legality issue with painting them black...they're only slightly visible at night...and not a chance by day. But I figured with my application (being that the car gets out a handful of times each year) I would risk it...if I had grids, I would paint them red
I thought they were solid black, not transparent. I don't see why they couldn't be legal if you re-wired the red lens to be the blinker. Some of the 2nd gen camaros are like that.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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yeah a rewiring would probly be legal... as long as it blinks...most cops wont notice a difference so i doubt you will get pulled over. i havent yet since i painted my red lenses, but it blinks bright reguardless

I have been lurking here forever before I signed up to test the waters. It seems whenever anything bodywise that may be different or cooler to younger posters such as my self there is a huge argument about rice and how these are american "muscle" cars. Hense my seemingly contradictory statement, sarcasm
the think on the right car, the corvette lenses look good... they look good on S10 pickups. but there is nothing aftermarket for these cars...and frankly, im glad they dont make clear/ euro lenses because, as most will agree, they look stupid and dont go with any car that they are on. and all the ground effects kits, save for the evo one, that they have for thirdgens also look like crap. the cars look good as is, and if anyone wanted to improve the stock looks with more aggressive parts, then the changes to the stock style ground effects will only have to be minor things...nothing outrageous like alot of import cars have available to them. i like imports, some kits are great, but others are just plain nasty and foul...hence why they are frowned upon

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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ishada
I have been lurking here forever before I signed up to test the waters. It seems whenever anything bodywise that may be different or cooler to younger posters such as my self there is a huge argument about rice and how these are american "muscle" cars. Hense my seemingly contradictory statement, sarcasm.

I understand your point in that many people harshly criticize anything done to cars out of the ordinary....but I can't read sarcasm when someone types it, so my bad..



as for the re-wiring - I suppose that would work, but Im not too deep into wiring yet on vehicles so that's out for me
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Hey Camaroguy18,
What is the story on the wing on the back of your car?????? Tight ride by the way....Thanks, Tom
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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What is the story on the wing on the back of your car?????? Tight ride by the way....Thanks, Tom
dont mean to reply for him, but its the same wing i want! the hawks 5inch spoiler... from hawks thirdgen parts
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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dont mean to reply for him, but its the same wing i want! the hawks 5inch spoiler... from hawks thirdgen parts
that'd be it

a little pricey, but worth it for the bold look it has IMO
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Ive never seent it before, bad ***...Can you give a breif on obtaining and installing it.....Price?? Any probs??? A bolt on???...Thanks again.Tom
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that'd be it

a little pricey, but worth it for the bold look it has IMO

i couldnt agree with you more
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I don't know what the big deal is about changing the tail lights, B4C or not. Removing the tail lights on our car is extremely easy and fast, and the originals could always be put back on if/when the car is sold. I'm no tail light expert but those lights attached on the first post of this thread look like the same ones that came on both my 89 IROC-Z and 89 RS of a past life. I've seen em for like $20 a set at the yard. Just get an old set, wetsand and polish them up, even paint em if you want.

As for the legality issues of tail light covers or painting, if you read the local laws its very very likely the law is based around the color of the reflector(s). So most mods like all clear tail lights or black out covers might not be legal because there is no red reflector on the light. If this is the case you can circumvent the law when modding your OEM tail lights by either masking off a small portion of the reflector portion before painting, or cutting a small portion of the black out cover. The law will rarely state how much of the reflector needs to be shown, it will only specify that a certain color (usually red) is viewable from the rear. So technically speaking an untouched square of 1 inch by 1 inch red reflector anywhere on the light would make it legal, even if the rest of the light was painted some other color. Just to give you guys some ideas ....

Originally Posted by ishada
I have been lurking here forever before I signed up to test the waters. It seems whenever anything bodywise that may be different or cooler to younger posters such as my self there is a huge argument about rice and how these are american "muscle" cars. Hense my seemingly contradictory statement, sarcasm.
Hahahaha, welcmoe to TGO!!! If you want a good laugh you can do searches and see old posts where I rant and rave about this. I've learned to just ignore it ...
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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Ok, but back to the badass spoiler..................
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Ok, but back to the badass spoiler..................
it uses the same bolt holes as the stock 'ducktail' spoiler, so install is pretty straightforward (remove old spoiler, install new one). Everyone seems to have the spoiler sit flush on the right side, but not the left, this being due to it coming from a mold....but at most angles it's not noticeable (you can see it in the pic I posted, but thats really the only angle it looks misplaced on)


as for buying it, check out hawksthirdgenparts....they are a sponsor at the top of this site!
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Everyone seems to have the spoiler sit flush on the right side, but not the left, this being due to it coming from a mold....
is there anyway to sand it down some to even it out?
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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is there anyway to sand it down some to even it out?


see I asked that with my body man, and in theory you can, but it will look sanded down at other angles (if you measure it, it's 5" all the way across) so I left mine
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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Custom tail lights

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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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Those are horrendous.
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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Thank You very much for the info on the spoiler..It is really tight....Your whole car is bad to the bone as they say.....Tom
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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Anyone driving or parked with these kit and tail lights, should be arrested for disturbing the peace.
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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Just got my 1992 tail lights in my 1989 today, and MAN DO THEY LOOK SWEET.........
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Here are my tail lights, they are the grid style with the amber section blacked out:

i hate how these pictures make the ***-end looked jacked up...
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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i hate how these pictures make the ***-end looked jacked up...
thats just how our cars look from that angle...
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