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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Gonna revive this dead thread.Since a few people have asked about the halos.However this is not about the halos in the sig.Those are gone, as are the shrouds.Anyway, here goes.

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I liked the looks of the old set better. The new set has the appearance of 2 lights are out (top center & bottom center).
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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No room for those LEDs.Plus, not too keen of the circular halo look.Current set-up is cleaner & a much nicer shroud design.Never liked the way the old halos were mounted.They just stuck out too much.

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Where did you get the chrome Bezels for the projectors. I have a set of your lights and would like to add those
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ebay, how did the projectors work for you?
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they fit really well. great work!. The bezels just make them look way better. Have a link by chance?
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Really nice work. I've never been good at fine soldering like that. Props.

I do prefer the complete line of the previous sets though.
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they fit really well. great work!. The bezels just make them look way better. Have a link by chance?
Sorry i dont, but they're all over ebay.Many sellers have them.I paid $30 a pair.

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Really nice work. I've never been good at fine soldering like that. Props.

I do prefer the complete line of the previous sets though.
Thanks, I prefer ccfl myself for the "compete" look, but that was never my intention for either set.
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Ahh just noticed the post was updated.

Looks cool! I like both sets / styles.
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Just got the bezels on ebay. have any advise for un sealing the housings again?
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like the old ones better cuz it all blend'd together around the halo..just my
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like the old ones better cuz it all blend'd together around the halo..just my
I agree...I'm not a fan of the new ones. I like the way the halos looked on the old ones
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Just got the bezels on ebay. have any advise for un sealing the housings again?
You'll have to cut the adhesive out with an x-acto knife.Just work your way around & genly pull up on th lense, til you cut all the way thru.Dont pull the lens too hard or it'll break.Did i sell you silver housing?Cause i think they'ld look better black w/ chrome shrouds.

Trim the shroud so it just fits.You want a wedge fit & watch the top/bttm gap around the projector as you trim it.You want even spacing, side/side can be adjusted by sliding the shroud l/r.Trimming is required on the sides as well or the shroud will stick out too much & prevent the lense from seating properly.I used a small amout of adhesive on the back of the shround for extra security.

As for the old halos:There were several things i never liked.
1.They looked good (to me) only with no detail around the halo (sig), but not when the projector & shroud are visible.I just was'nt digging the look anymore.
2.Plus they never "blended in" well, w/ or w/out the lights on.The halo was'nt evenly spaced on the shroud or projector.
3.I also did not like the way i had to mount them & the shroud was not my first choice.The more i looked at them, the less i liked them.

Id rather have a shroud i like, than a halo.The hew shrouds are just a cleaner look.I got tired of having the halos on fulltime.Im gonna rewire these so they're only on with the headlights.I just wanted to do something with the dimples on the shrouds & also wanted to test wireing up my own LEDs.
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As for the old halos,what did you have to do to get them to fit, if you can remember
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The have to be cut to fit.
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You'll have to cut the adhesive out with an x-acto knife.Just work your way around & genly pull up on th lense, til you cut all the way thru.Dont pull the lens too hard or it'll break.Did i sell you silver housing?Cause i think they'ld look better black w/ chrome shrouds.

Trim the shroud so it just fits.You want a wedge fit & watch the top/bttm gap around the projector as you trim it.You want even spacing, side/side can be adjusted by sliding the shroud l/r.Trimming is required on the sides as well or the shroud will stick out too much & prevent the lense from seating properly.I used a small amout of adhesive on the back of the shround for extra security.

LEDs.
Thanks a lot for the tips. I will let you know how it goes. and yes they were the silver ones. I think im gonna cut the shrouds to fit then see if i want to repaint them black. The projectors are just bolted into the shell correct?
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Yeah, 4 screws is all.
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Yeah, 4 screws is all.
great. i will let you know how it goes
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Right on.Are those the projectors in your avatar?
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no but i will try and remember to get a pic after
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Looking forward to it.
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just got done sealing them all up. i think they came out pretty good!

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just got done sealing them all up. i think they came out pretty good!


How'd you get them open? Look exactly like mine & I don't see any way to pull the lens loose. Lots of oven heating didn't even help on my last set, so I cut the back open.
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Those are my retrofit i sold to him.He installed the shrouds himself.Which look great BTW, nice work.I like that style much better than i ones a had prior.Now for some night pics.
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well idk how he initially got the lenses off because 84 1LE initially made my projectors i just added the chrome shrouds
EDIT: you beat me too it! haha and thank you they did turn out well
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Those are my retrofit i sold to him.He installed the shrouds himself.Which look great BTW, nice work.I like that style much better than i ones a had prior.Now for some night pics.
OK then....How did YOU got the lens off? Those look exactly like mine, but the lens wouldn't budge.
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OK then....How did YOU got the lens off? Those look exactly like mine, but the lens wouldn't budge.
I told you how, way back.I dont know what you used, but this is th only knife i use.
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I told you how, way back.I dont know what you used, but this is th only knife i use.
I tried that & a standard razor blade. Neither work, nor could possibly work. Are the housings your using using lenses bonded flat onto the surface?

What housing I used, had the lens sitting in a U-shaped channel. I discovered that after I cut the housing to get it off, after no razoring (is that a word?), not even after oven heating, did no good.

My genericMSPaint of how the lens fits to the housing.


But considering how the projector is longer than the housing is deep, how does that help in any way? No projector will fit inside the unmodified housing anyways. I guess if one was just putting a H4 bulb for a non projector setup, it would be fine.

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These housings also have u-shape grove for the lense.I take it off not so much for the shroud, but to apply fiberglass to both sides.
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Little update. finally got a chance to get back to our winter storage and put the projectors back in.

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Looks great.Should put the fake lamps on the hi-beam.
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good idea i haven't thought about that!
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I really like this projector retro-fit thing you have going on here. I'm gonna have to try that on my convertible. Can you give me some hints on where to find the wiring/ballasts for this? I read the first and last page, kinda figured I read most of the material in those pages. I'll snoop around on ebay for projectors in a few weeks after I get caught up in my bank account from Christmas shopping
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good idea i haven't thought about that!
I wasnt big on it at first, but with the shrouds.It just looks better.
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Ok I've been looking on ebay all afternoon at stuff for this. I realize now that I will want to use actual HID projectors and not Halogens.

As for the "kit" that I need to make this work, I'm totally lost. Is this something you would recommend?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9005-...item4aa7a32da6


I have no idea where to start with the wiring/ballast. How do you make this integrated with your headlight switch, how do you power them, and what kind of "kit" do I need to make it work? Sorry if you've explained this before but lighting/electrical is NOT my expertise.
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I would'nt recommend that at all.....total junk..Just get OEM projectors & DDM for the HID kit.
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Where would I find a DDM kit? Is that something that is OEM? Or is that a brand?
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Where would I find a DDM kit? Is that something that is OEM?
http://www.ddmtuning.com/
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Like I mentioned above, I'm totally new to HID stuff, I don't know anything about it. Sorry.


I checked out the website and found the Raptor kit you used. Can you tell me which of the options on the kit I will need to order?

The options are:

Wattage 35w or 55w

Bulb Type I was going to get the D2S, I think you said those work well

Bulb color I forget how the colors go, is the lowest number white, or is the highest number white?

HID Harness The only option is dual in, dual out?

Error code eliminator Probably thinking I don't need this one...?

Adaptor cables Only option is H1/H7 to 9006?
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I didn't mean anything bad by . Just figured the DDM name was known by now. My bad.

I haven't gotten my ballast kit yet. Still working on making the projectors physically fit & keep the flip-ups functional. No flush mounted housings for me.

I will go 55w.
Camaros will need the dual setup.
Higher #s are white, but not necessarily the whiter the better output. Stay under 5000k is you want the best light output.
No bar code than I know of for our cars.
I'm going DS1, but that is because the DS2 increase length by a little bit & I wanted the SHORTEST possible for my flip ups.
Drawing a blank on the cables, but 9006? Not sure ours are that.
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Can a D1S bulb fit in a projector that originally had a D2S bulb in it, and visa versa?

It's kind of hard to find a PAIR of projectors on ebay that are the right dimensions, most of the listings on ebay are for a single projector which would be pointless in this case.
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Re: Projector retrofit inside(w/pics)

I may have found a set that has d2s bulbs and measures 6" front to back and the lense is 2 3/4" diameter. Think that extra 1/4" will make a big difference with fitment?
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueZee28
Like I mentioned above, I'm totally new to HID stuff, I don't know anything about it. Sorry.


I checked out the website and found the Raptor kit you used. Can you tell me which of the options on the kit I will need to order?

The options are:

Wattage 35w or 55w

Bulb Type I was going to get the D2S, I think you said those work well

Bulb color I forget how the colors go, is the lowest number white, or is the highest number white?

HID Harness The only option is dual in, dual out?

Error code eliminator Probably thinking I don't need this one...?

Adaptor cables Only option is H1/H7 to 9006?
1.You know most(if not all) of the answers are listed in the first page!Ballast type & wattage are your choice (there is not wrong/right when it comes to those two), but since your asking.
I would'nt go with 55w, projectors are designed for 35w systems & there are other reasons why the OEMs dont use 55w.As for ballast digital is nice & water proof.
2. color, 4300k-4500k, only if you want the best/brightest light.
3.Check again, dual harness is NOT the only one.There is universal harness.
4.Error code eli- is for BMW only.
5.Again, check the site, univ harness & D2S adapter are listed on the same page i believe.

Kit is $40
harness $20
D2S lamps$20
Adapters $20

Originally Posted by BlueZee28
Can a D1S bulb fit in a projector that originally had a D2S bulb in it, and visa versa?.
Valeos are D1S.Which i modify for the D2S lamps.Or buy Euro spec Valeos which already accept D2S (check ebay).

Originally Posted by BlueZee28
It's kind of hard to find a PAIR of projectors on ebay that are the right dimensions, most of the listings on ebay are for a single projector which would be pointless in this case.
Do you mean single xenon?Cause thats what you need.There are dozens of sets (pair) on ebay.Just put "valeo" in the search bar in the lighting catergory.Bi-xenon are for dual hi-lo beam headlamps (think firebird).Dont bother asking me how to set those up for camaros.Camaro do NOT need a dual set-up.

Originally Posted by BlueZee28
I may have found a set that has d2s bulbs and measures 6" front to back and the lense is 2 3/4" diameter. Think that extra 1/4" will make a big difference with fitment?
Valeos are already hard to fit at about 5 7/8 & require the battery to be moved back to clear the lamp.
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 04:36 PM
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Hey Really Really Nice Lights Man
Were in So Cal U Be Located at??
Im From Socal Too
Love The Halo lights!!!
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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Thanks, Im in O.C.
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Love it guys. Anyone upgraded since? Want to sell your old ones?
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 06:23 PM
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hey do you still sell the lights?


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Thanks, Im in O.C.
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 12:54 AM
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84le let me know if you want to make me a set of those retro fits ill gladly pay you as I work too much to dive into that my self
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