87bluebird

has anyone ever put a set of 68 firebird tail lights in their third gen?



i know there not gonna just bolt in. if i do it i'll make brackets to hold them in place and make a fiberglass filler panel to surround them. so what you guys think would it look good? can someone try Photoshopping this?

87bluebird

i was also thinking the side marker lights would look cool i can find a set of them




what do you guys think would those tail and marker lights look good

92 Camaro

iTrader: (1)

it won't look good and is something that should stay on a 1st gen.
you're going to have a lot of unused space because the 3rd gen taillights are much larger.
although the marker lights shouldn't be an issue.

87bluebird

whats wrong with having open space the 1st gens have open space and look good. as long as its finished and i make a fiberglass cover for the area between and around them. it should look alright.

92 Camaro

iTrader: (1)

because the tail panels are completely different. one is flat and one is concave.

87bluebird

i'm not sure which one your saying is flat but when i make a fiberglass fill panel it will be shaped like the 68 tail panel and flow into the side pieces of the spoiler. infact i mite make the spoiler side pieces and this panel 1 piece.

Gumby

Ill give ya the thumbs up go ahead.

I run 68 hood scoops on my 86

92 Camaro

iTrader: (1)

have you ever seen a thirdgen without the taillights in?
the tail panel goes IN. which means it will look STUPID if this were to work. they won't even work actually.
Look at the 1st gen taillights. they go behind the tail-panel while the 3rd gens go in front of it. You would have to make cuts for that, and then have a lot of empty space. in fact, it would look like a 70s car with the bumpers that stuck out too much.
just look at one without the taillights in and try to picture this working...

Gumby

Id say no different then the early round Vette taillights on the rear of a 2nd gen.

87bluebird

yes i have had my lights out before but you wont see that tho!
i think i have said this in every post so far i plan to make a fiberglass cover of that area of my firebird so its flat like the 68 and recess the 68 light into the fiberglass cover. so the whole tail light are will look like a 68. and when i make the spoiler i will glass its side pieces rite into that filler panel.

Gumby i love your hood how did you do that?
also did you ever finish the sail panel vents?

Gumby

your not thinking about it right, open your mind some. I can see what he means and what your saying is not it.

92 Camaro

iTrader: (1)

ok because I wasn't sure when you said you didn't know which one I was referring to.
that's a lot to fill in then...
hi gumby how are you?

87bluebird

remember those cheap kits that allow you to attach the corvette lights on third gen camaro's they came with a cover for that area some thing like that

87bluebird

not fill cover

87bluebird

92 Camaro still think it wont look good?

iroc stangs

i personally think it would look pretty, i say go for it. maybe someone could photoshop a pic before though???

Gumby

Just bought some metal open 68 vents and started cutting.
Kinda like the sail panels, eyeballed and just started cutting and went with it.

The key placement was at the hood apex, sittin inside the car, the point where the hood line drops out of sight, so the scoops face forward.


The vents are done, both are in.

oscarsrs

I like the idea but why dont you take a step further, make the piece but insted of using real 68 lights get led lights and put them in a way that they will look like the 68 but with better lighting. truck led lights come in rectangular chapes they are not expensive and that would killer, just my

Gumby

I almost wonder if you could just cut down a set of stock lights to make it easy, they already fill the area well. Just cut the outter lense part off, for lighting id redo the 68 lense in LED's

87bluebird

i will get the tail light in and working then eventually upgrade to the leds. there are kits for them but they are upwards of $150

Stephen

iTrader: (12)

The Arrowhead side marker lights are easy to get (repops), but aren't cheap. I was going to, until I priced them. Not REAL expensive, just higher tan my budget allowed. Sorry. Looked trough my Book marks & can't find the web page for them.

Get me a pic of your car, matching the angle of the pics of the 1st gen above & I'll Photoshop it in for ya.



Gumby....Got any more pics of your scoops, from different angles?

tylercamaro

iTrader: (1)

someone i knew did the side marker lights but with the bird that was used on a different model or something, as far as taillights go u could use the pattern of the 1st gens and tape them out and paint them black or body color to look older while using the third gen ones, just a thought

87bluebird

i dont got a camera but i got 2 pics that are the same angle the thirdgen is harwood's car i plan on making a bumper that looks like that one but that only sticks out 1 or 2 inches. so stephen when you photoshop the lights can you also photoshop the bumper so it don't stick out much. thanx

pics removed for gumby

oscarsrs

not the best photo shop. but you get the idea

87bluebird

thanx oscars i like the idea of customizing the stock light to like like that. but that would be as hard if not hard than bolting in a set of 68 lights and glassing around them. also this way includes chrome trim.

the marker lights are roughly 50 dollars on ebay with the chrome.

Stephen

iTrader: (12)

I'll give it a shot, but you talking about 1 taken from 3 ft off the ground & the other appears to be 10ft of the ground. I'll try to adjust the angle & get it as best I can.

I tried this earlier with my car......

87bluebird

is this any better?

oscarsrs

ok another shot at photo shop

87bluebird

stephen and oscars thanx for the photoshops that gives me a pretty good idea what it will look like. i think it looks good. the fuel door wont be there so i will probably put something like a bird emblem in there.

Gumby

played with the width of them on the right, lined up with bumper strip.

Stephen

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Lose the gas door.

oscarsrs

here is another idea, this is just with the shorter bumper and one missing row of the tail lights

87bluebird

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i figured i'd try with paint. the chops on that red car look awsome i think these lights will look good. and im gonna try to do this. now i got to get some mat and resin.

Gumby

Found these 4, can't find the build thread for them.
I had a different user name then.

http://viragotech.com/fronthood.jpg
http://viragotech.com/backhood.jpg
http://viragotech.com/primer.jpg
http://viragotech.com/primer4.jpg

tylercamaro

iTrader: (1)

i was randomly searching the web for wide bodied cars, and i found this, i must say the body is ugly but the rear end look like it was taken right from a old
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...26tbs%3Disch:1

Sinister Z

Check this place out for newer LED Firebird tails lights...pricey but very nice!

http://www.spaghettiengineering.com/...sp?idProduct=8
http://www.spaghettiengineering.com/...sp?idProduct=9
http://www.spaghettiengineering.com/...p?idProduct=62

87bluebird

thanx for posting that.

that car is amazing. the rear quarters are flared out a bit much and the spoiler is ridiculously large but other wise awesome. and those tail lights look incredible. i am definitely going to do this. i am going to order some fiberglass in a couple of weeks. and make a 5 inch duck tail spoiler and cover for that area.





eventually id like to get a set of led tail lights. but that will be while. that does look like a quality kit. for now i'll get the old ones in and working.

Gumby

Could you please edit post number 23 and nuke that giant white car pic?

some reaosn it don't cache and I gotta wait for it to load evey time.

perdy plz

87bluebird

i found the build pics for that 84 trans am.

http://www.floridagarage.com/index.p...d=26&topcoll=2

i removed that pic for you gumby

they welded in a replacement tail panel for a 67 firebird.

Sinister Z

Yes I remember that T.A. From 2 years ago at the Performance World Car Show when I had my car there, I have a pic or 2 of it and the 1st gen. Firebird lights look cool on there...I completely forgot about that!

87bluebird

i can't believe that in all the times i have searched for wide body firebirds that has never came up. if you got more pics can you post them. please.

Sinister Z

Here are the pics of that Firebird...it was from last years show not 2008!

Gumby

Everything but the tail lights looks like something you would find in the wild HW collection. So you already got a set of 68 lights?

Since they only shine out and are flat by design, I almost bet you could build them if you found a plastic supplier, sure you can find that stuff in sheets.

tylercamaro

iTrader: (1)

im almost always looking at wierd wide body kits. dunno why it just sparks my imagination, as to that 84, it couldve been done a lot better, but i think that the rear end looks more shaved than a stock third gen one which is really cool, anyways im glad i could help

87bluebird

thanx for the pics those tail lights are incredible looking.
yeah i have the lights. i m gonna get some fiberglass and floral foam in a couple weeks i also want to get a camera so i can take pics when i do it.

tylercamaro

iTrader: (1)

if you dont put the build pics on this thread and make a new thread let me know im really interested in seeing it

Sinister Z

Remember yours will look a little different compared to that T.A. yours will look a little closer towards the middle because you don't have that wide body kit on there...it will look much better!

tkcaraudio

go for it i wanna see it

GTA50

Absolutely radical!!! I love the ideas and the looks.

87bluebird

thanx for the comments. money is going to be be a little tight for a couple of weeks cuz i got to get another vehicle before my transmission completely quits. its an automatic but i have to manually shift it. after that i will get the stuff needed to do this and i will either post the build here or a link to a new thread.