The end of an era..or is it?
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From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
I just emailed the company that makes them to see if they still make them for the GM cars. Upon some more research, it seems Torsen was bought out back in 2003 by another company JTEKT who now makes them.
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: Dart SHP 406ci T88 turbo
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
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Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
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Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Ok, I feel dumb. I read through the entire thread and missed that.
I have basically his exact rear-end, welded axle tubes, 28 spline moser axles, 3.73's and the 'Ultimate" diff cover, but a zexel torsen instead of an auburn unit. If a solid pinon spacer makes that much difference, I'm going to kick myself because I had one that I couldn't find when I needed to rebuild the rear end so it didn't get installed and the guy at the shop swore up and down I wouldn't need it.
I have basically his exact rear-end, welded axle tubes, 28 spline moser axles, 3.73's and the 'Ultimate" diff cover, but a zexel torsen instead of an auburn unit. If a solid pinon spacer makes that much difference, I'm going to kick myself because I had one that I couldn't find when I needed to rebuild the rear end so it didn't get installed and the guy at the shop swore up and down I wouldn't need it.
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From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
IMHO I think a solid spacer is easier to setup because you don't have a crush sleeve to preload and if you preload a crush sleeve too much then it's ruined and you have to get another. With a solid spacer kit all you do is torque it and go. Solid spacer setup prevents the pinion gear from riding up the ring gear which causes wear and tear and eventual gear failure.
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: Dart SHP 406ci T88 turbo
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Thanks for info on that. I may swap out the 3.73 for a 3.42 the next time it needs a rebuild and even if I don't swap gears, I'm going to put that solid spacer in, especially seeing how it's helped your rear end hold up to 700HP for so long. That's really all any of us with a 10-bolt can hope for.
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Car: 88 Formula, 90 Iroc RIP, 92 RS Sold
Engine: 305 to 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: Dart SHP 406ci T88 turbo
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
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From: San Diego, California For Now
Car: 88 Formula, 90 Iroc RIP, 92 RS Sold
Engine: 305 to 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Engine looks gorgeous i would eat off it lol decided on vinyl yet Im on my way to pick up badass set of wheel right now that I'm settle for finally lol
Keep it up glad you like them can't wait to see final product looks 10 times nicer then my milk bucket
Are they bolt on answer is no but doesn't take much to fit they do offer a 19" that will fit better
Keep it up glad you like them can't wait to see final product looks 10 times nicer then my milk bucket
Are they bolt on answer is no but doesn't take much to fit they do offer a 19" that will fit better
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: Dart SHP 406ci T88 turbo
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Engine looks gorgeous i would eat off it lol decided on vinyl yet Im on my way to pick up badass set of wheel right now that I'm settle for finally lol
Keep it up glad you like them can't wait to see final product looks 10 times nicer then my milk bucket
Are they bolt on answer is no but doesn't take much to fit they do offer a 19" that will fit better
Keep it up glad you like them can't wait to see final product looks 10 times nicer then my milk bucket
Are they bolt on answer is no but doesn't take much to fit they do offer a 19" that will fit better
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From: San Diego, California For Now
Car: 88 Formula, 90 Iroc RIP, 92 RS Sold
Engine: 305 to 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Yea that's what I was going to do but never came around to it , I'm sure there's some place in Florida that can do it
Excuse the dirty car trans pump went south had to rebuild and put back in myself def not no easy task my body still aches lol but I'm wrapping up my LSX swap I'm tuning her now
Excuse the dirty car trans pump went south had to rebuild and put back in myself def not no easy task my body still aches lol but I'm wrapping up my LSX swap I'm tuning her now
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: Dart SHP 406ci T88 turbo
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Yea that's what I was going to do but never came around to it , I'm sure there's some place in Florida that can do it
Excuse the dirty car trans pump went south had to rebuild and put back in myself def not no easy task my body still aches lol but I'm wrapping up my LSX swap I'm tuning her now
Excuse the dirty car trans pump went south had to rebuild and put back in myself def not no easy task my body still aches lol but I'm wrapping up my LSX swap I'm tuning her now
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Car: 92 camaro/99 gmc Z71
Engine: 357/5.3
Transmission: built 700r4 4500 stall/4l60
Axle/Gears: 4.56/?
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Was sad to see what happen to you car. It seems ur making the best out of the situation/ Good job man the car is looking amazing.
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: Dart SHP 406ci T88 turbo
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Ok yall here's a quick update. THE BEAST IS ALIVE!! I fired her up over the weekend and it purrs like a kitten. I'll post video later but here are a few pics taken yesterday.
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From: San Angelo, TX
Car: 1986 Camaro IROC Z28
Engine: LS7
Transmission: Built 4L80e w/GearVendors overdrive
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
I didn't read the entire thread, so sorry if I missed this, but I love that wing on your wrecked car (looks just like the one I had on my old '82 Firebird) and would love to have it for the '86 Camaro project I'm starting. Is it available?
Also, saw you make top notch clear light covers that won't fly off. Are you still doing that? Need some for an '86 Camaro IROC Z28.
BTW, very nice build on the new car. Can't wait to see how it comes out.
Also, saw you make top notch clear light covers that won't fly off. Are you still doing that? Need some for an '86 Camaro IROC Z28.
BTW, very nice build on the new car. Can't wait to see how it comes out.
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From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Well it's been a while since ive been on here so i figured I'd post up on what's happened. A couple months ago I was to start a 406ci Dart SHP with a T76 turbo build. I figured I'd go for a cruise with my friends for one last weekend before I started tearing down the car. On my way back home some a-hole pulls out in front of me like I wasnt even there. I slam on the brakes and the car spun out of control into a guardrail doing 75mph. This was the end result. A Camaro that I've had for 22 years original owner purchased in Germany is totaled. Here is the carnage.
Engine still ran believe it or not
I even drove it onto the trailer but had to put the front left wheel on a dolly to do so.
Engine still ran believe it or not
I even drove it onto the trailer but had to put the front left wheel on a dolly to do so.
Just a question though, about the original car, what spoiler is that? I really dig it.
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From: San Angelo, TX
Car: 1986 Camaro IROC Z28
Engine: LS7
Transmission: Built 4L80e w/GearVendors overdrive
Axle/Gears: 2.73
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BTW, you can get a similar look by buying a Fiero GT wing.
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Car: 84 Z28
Engine: 383 Stroker
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Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Sweet build. Sorry about the other. R.I.P thought, you should pull off your plenum cover and have a shop machine something cool in it. Seems like a great spot for something. maybe a memorial for your other z.... or maybe you just want to plain forget that happened. The saying is true, When one door closes....2 more open. What kind of H.p you planning to get out of the new car? Keep them posts coming!!!
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: Dart SHP 406ci T88 turbo
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
I didn't read the entire thread, so sorry if I missed this, but I love that wing on your wrecked car (looks just like the one I had on my old '82 Firebird) and would love to have it for the '86 Camaro project I'm starting. Is it available?
Also, saw you make top notch clear light covers that won't fly off. Are you still doing that? Need some for an '86 Camaro IROC Z28.
BTW, very nice build on the new car. Can't wait to see how it comes out.
Also, saw you make top notch clear light covers that won't fly off. Are you still doing that? Need some for an '86 Camaro IROC Z28.
BTW, very nice build on the new car. Can't wait to see how it comes out.
Sweet build. Sorry about the other. R.I.P thought, you should pull off your plenum cover and have a shop machine something cool in it. Seems like a great spot for something. maybe a memorial for your other z.... or maybe you just want to plain forget that happened. The saying is true, When one door closes....2 more open. What kind of H.p you planning to get out of the new car? Keep them posts coming!!!
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From: San Angelo, TX
Car: 1986 Camaro IROC Z28
Engine: LS7
Transmission: Built 4L80e w/GearVendors overdrive
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Thanks, I still have that wing hanging in my garage. I think I want to keep it as a memento of the first modification I ever did to that car the 22 years Ive owned it. If I decide to sell i'll let you know. I don't make those covers anymore. Too time consuming and I have alot going on with this current car.
After I posted I noticed some posts where you said you had plans/instructions for the light covers, could you PM them to me?
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: Dart SHP 406ci T88 turbo
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
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I'll have to dig them up. They're in an old computer sitting in the closet. They were instructions on how to install the covers.
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From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
How would it look on a TA I wonder? I just love how it looks.
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From: San Angelo, TX
Car: 1986 Camaro IROC Z28
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Transmission: Built 4L80e w/GearVendors overdrive
Axle/Gears: 2.73
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From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
This is how it looked on my '82 Firebird with the Product Guild IMSA Kelly kit.
Anybody know where I can find the all aluminum louvers like I had on the old car?
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Anybody know where I can find the all aluminum louvers like I had on the old car?
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Car: 1986 Camaro IROC Z28
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: Dart SHP 406ci T88 turbo
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Ok yall, i havent updated in a while so im just gonna leave this here 
Car is wrapped and almost done. Video of the test drive
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Car: 88 Formula, 90 Iroc RIP, 92 RS Sold
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Re: The end of an era..or is it?
oh cant wait to get into lsx boost action
clean car
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Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Sounds and looks good!
Just me nit picking but I would have liked to see the front wheel pushed out a 1/2" or so, so it protruded as much as the rears do. Other than that is a beautiful car. Get some shots of the inside.
Just me nit picking but I would have liked to see the front wheel pushed out a 1/2" or so, so it protruded as much as the rears do. Other than that is a beautiful car. Get some shots of the inside.
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Re: The end of an era..or is it?
Inspirational!
If a pic is worth a thousand words, that vid is worth a million words. Nice work.
If a pic is worth a thousand words, that vid is worth a million words. Nice work.
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From: Wesley Chapel, Florida
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
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Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: QP 35 spline Ford 9" 3.50 gears
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Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
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Transmission: T56
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Re: The end of an era..or is it?
makes me not want to drive my T/A for fear of that happening... I even have the wife follow me when I take it work for oil change so i lessen the chance of driver not paying attention and getting rearended......I'll throw extra coat of wax on her this weekend.....RIP
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