Factory looking double dinn bezel for Firebirds
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Factory looking double dinn bezel for Firebirds
So I have asked hawks third gen parts if they can have one made for us. Their answer was they didn't see a market for it. They already make reproduction bezels, why not make one accommodate double dinn as well?? I need some interest shown to show them it is something desired. I know a company makes one for Firebirds but it is in a texture that is more suited to Camaro interiors...not our "upper scale" interiors. It looks out of place.
If you are even slightly interested please post to show even the slightest of interest.
If you are even slightly interested please post to show even the slightest of interest.
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Re: Factory looking double dinn bezel for Firebirds
I'm interested. I've been investigating the possibility of the Jeep android radios because of their apparent 1.5 DIN faceplates. But while they might fit the factory bezel, their chassis range from single DIN to double DIN, so they would still require custom fitment. But if I can get a double DIN factory-style bezel now, I would definitely buy it, at least, just to have one on-hand for the day I make my A/V decision.
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Why not buy a repro, with a thin cutting blade trim the hole corners upwards and downwards as much as needed, then with a heat gun and a straight edge bend them inward and then trim them. Now you'd have a rounded lip which looks better than a cut edge. The only place you'd need to fix is the cuts on the side edges and with a heat gun and a flat edge you could make it look better too. But if it's like most stereos it will stick out and cover it anyway.
Or am I missing something?
Or am I missing something?
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Why not buy a repro, with a thin cutting blade trim the hole corners upwards and downwards as much as needed, then with a heat gun and a straight edge bend them inward and then trim them. Now you'd have a rounded lip which looks better than a cut edge. The only place you'd need to fix is the cuts on the side edges and with a heat gun and a flat edge you could make it look better too. But if it's like most stereos it will stick out and cover it anyway.
Or am I missing something?
Or am I missing something?
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Re: Factory looking double dinn bezel for Firebirds
Yep, this is something another company did but it wasn't done nicely.
I'd put a double din as well if a plate was available. Would pay up to $40 or 50 I'd say.
I am also waiting for them to make an automatic shift plate.. why in the world do they only have manual.. I do not get it.
I'd put a double din as well if a plate was available. Would pay up to $40 or 50 I'd say.
I am also waiting for them to make an automatic shift plate.. why in the world do they only have manual.. I do not get it.
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If you guys like this look in my car I can sell a 1/8" plastcic laser cut faceplate for about $50. You use your factory faceplace but need to cut it -then my laser cut piece has 3M double stick on the back side, you put it on after you get your double din in there and all lined up. I can have this faceplate made in other colors. For my car I have black with gold showing on the edges for my TTA.
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I have to replace that whole area PO did a hack job and i found behind the plate the metal was mostly gone and cardboard and wads of paper towels were holding the radio in place.......
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I seriously doubt that even if you could get someone to make a factory looking textured piece they would sell it for $50, they'd want closer to $100. Sellers of the other solutions like mine wanted that... I drew up my own blueprint and had mine made by an engraving shop with a laser cutter. It looks professional but of course not like factory...but then a double din blue tooth DVD/CD is not exactly stock either. BTW- mine works with my steering wheel buttons too.
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I think the lack of interest has to do with it being in the audio section. I rarely ever visit this section. Can we get this moved to Appearance and Detailing?
Rubber, there is a company that makes double dinn bezels for Camaros and it seems to look factory as well.
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I would pay $100 also. The repop bezels sell for $45 so I doubt it would be that high.
I think the lack of interest has to do with it being in the audio section. I rarely ever visit this section. Can we get this moved to Appearance and Detailing?
Rubber, there is a company that makes double dinn bezels for Camaros and it seems to look factory as well.
I think the lack of interest has to do with it being in the audio section. I rarely ever visit this section. Can we get this moved to Appearance and Detailing?
Rubber, there is a company that makes double dinn bezels for Camaros and it seems to look factory as well.
Yeah, but they have a bad rep. I might just copy thir design with a spare I have.
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I have a 2013 ram 1500 with the 8.4" screen and I absolutely love it!! To have a double dinn touch screen in the car would just amplify my love for driving the car. But I would only do it with a factory looking piece.
If you want one, please post.
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Re: Factory looking double dinn bezel for Firebirds
Just an idea...
If someone is talented at 3D modeling, make a model of the bezel and then they can be 3D printed. Such as this one here.
It would be faster, cheaper and easier to produce than to rely on a company to make one.
I'm sure there are members here who have access to 3D printers (I own one myself), that could help.
just a thought.
If someone is talented at 3D modeling, make a model of the bezel and then they can be 3D printed. Such as this one here.
It would be faster, cheaper and easier to produce than to rely on a company to make one.
I'm sure there are members here who have access to 3D printers (I own one myself), that could help.
just a thought.
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Just an idea...
If someone is talented at 3D modeling, make a model of the bezel and then they can be 3D printed. Such as this one here.
It would be faster, cheaper and easier to produce than to rely on a company to make one.
I'm sure there are members here who have access to 3D printers (I own one myself), that could help.
just a thought.
If someone is talented at 3D modeling, make a model of the bezel and then they can be 3D printed. Such as this one here.
It would be faster, cheaper and easier to produce than to rely on a company to make one.
I'm sure there are members here who have access to 3D printers (I own one myself), that could help.
just a thought.
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Re: Factory looking double dinn bezel for Firebirds
sorry, it was just an idea. But a touchscreen Nav, Bluetooth, Sattelite radio unit looks totally factory.
It was just an idea to produce them on the cheap.
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I think a 3D printer could do a better jod than anything currently offered.DoubleDmods bezels lack a lot to h desired.Since there aren't any OE double dins for thirdgens, someone just has to mod a stock piece to a tee.Then print one, maybe that guy in the link above could print it.
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I think a 3D printer could do a better jod than anything currently offered.DoubleDmods bezels lack a lot to h desired.Since there aren't any OE double dins for thirdgens, someone just has to mod a stock piece to a tee.Then print one, maybe that guy in the link above could print it.
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I think a 3D printer could do a better jod than anything currently offered.DoubleDmods bezels lack a lot to h desired.Since there aren't any OE double dins for thirdgens, someone just has to mod a stock piece to a tee.Then print one, maybe that guy in the link above could print it.
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Re: Factory looking double dinn bezel for Firebirds
I think we are getting off track here. This isn't about a cheap alternative or anything currently offered. This is about getting a FACTORY looking double din bezel which is not currently offered. That means replicating the pattern that the bezels have. Not just a black texture paint on the whole thing. Not sure a 3d printer can replicate the pattern on the face.
If you want EXACT factory replica then yes, you will be waiting for a long time for a professional company to reproduce it. But if you can live with "close enough" then this is the way to go.
I have designed and made a couple of small pieces for these cars. Eliminating some design flaws of the originals along the way.
GTA seat belt loop barrel ( I have tweaked the design a little since this picture was taken)
and the ALDL port cover (black is the original, white is my repro)
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A 3D printer is going to be your best bet, next to making a mold.Which is very expensive & as noted by you in your first post, nobody is interested in reproducing one.
Whether for a Camaro or bird, 3D printing is the next best option.Regardless of price.Getting the color/shade right would be the hardest part, id imagine.
Whether for a Camaro or bird, 3D printing is the next best option.Regardless of price.Getting the color/shade right would be the hardest part, id imagine.
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The other thing to consider is: If the model for the Double Din Faceplate gets made, that can easily be worked into a Single Din faceplate, thereby eliminating ugly adapter plates.
BTW, I happen to know someone very close who is working on a model of the faceplate, still at a very early stage:
BTW, I happen to know someone very close who is working on a model of the faceplate, still at a very early stage:
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Re: Factory looking double dinn bezel for Firebirds
That looks like a good addition to a thirdgen. I see them at walmart pretty cheap but I didn't know how a Nav would look in the car.
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Hey guys I'm not going to lie I've had over 36 Trans am's in my 39 years on this planet and spent 10s of thousands on building them 2 so if they make it and I want it I don't care what it costs I'll pay if it looks good got me and before you guys say things like who are you never heard of you on here I've been on here since like 2000 or so but forgot my username name back in 06 when I was getting a divorce and just had bad luck and haven't been able to get online if you get what I mean so please don't be saying dumb **** like some people love to do trust me I know my 3rd gen t/a's 2nd and 4th also but 3rd always been my favorite besides a 79 y84 a 88-89 blk on blk GTA is fu*kin king
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Hey guys I'm not going to lie I've had over 36 Trans am's in my 39 years on this planet and spent 10s of thousands on building them 2 so if they make it and I want it I don't care what it costs I'll pay if it looks good got me and before you guys say things like who are you never heard of you on here I've been on here since like 2000 or so but forgot my username name back in 06 when I was getting a divorce and just had bad luck and haven't been able to get online if you get what I mean so please don't be saying dumb **** like some people love to do trust me I know my 3rd gen t/a's 2nd and 4th also but 3rd always been my favorite besides a 79 y84 a 88-89 blk on blk GTA is fu*kin king
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See this is what I mean I don't need 36 of them only have three 3rd gens right now, sorry for the confusion just got a little upset before when people think that you don't know as much as they do when they haven't even spun a wrench in their lives, not sure what you didn't understand about my post it's pretty straight forward I thought don't need or I'm I interested in the back and forth bs just wanted you guys to know that I'm very experienced in custom work and have owned over 36 3rd gen Trans am's and about 8 Camaro's and built even more for customers I own a custom body/diesel-gas-powered shop with a friend for years been around awhile had vehicles and custom Harleys in magazines even my knowledge is fair you can say just wanted to agree with your post it's worth what people will pay for a nice pay for a nice piece that you can only get from 1 place it's not going to be cheap that's all if they start making them I'll take 3 and pay whatever it takes if I like the quality
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Re: Factory looking double dinn bezel for Firebirds
See this is what I mean I don't need 36 of them only have three 3rd gens right now, sorry for the confusion just got a little upset before when people think that you don't know as much as they do when they haven't even spun a wrench in their lives, not sure what you didn't understand about my post it's pretty straight forward I thought don't need or I'm I interested in the back and forth bs just wanted you guys to know that I'm very experienced in custom work and have owned over 36 3rd gen Trans am's and about 8 Camaro's and built even more for customers I own a custom body/diesel-gas-powered shop with a friend for years been around awhile had vehicles and custom Harleys in magazines even my knowledge is fair you can say just wanted to agree with your post it's worth what people will pay for a nice pay for a nice piece that you can only get from 1 place it's not going to be cheap that's all if they start making them I'll take 3 and pay whatever it takes if I like the quality
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That is the most promising plate by far even at an early stage.Fitment would be great it seems.To me the whole argument about the textured front is what makes things extra difficult.Nothing about having a dbl din unit with full features is going to appear factory for our cars of this age.Id be more than happy with a plate in a black satin semi gloss to resemble the original.If you want a checkered pattern that badly it will take some patience but the cheap duplicolor carbon fiber spray on kit does a close enough job of this if you pay close attention to masking off certain areas.
The only people who know the pattern is missing is us fellow bird owners,which doesnt bother me at all.Im more concerned about function/fitment of the opening for a flush mount.
That is the most promising plate by far even at an early stage.Fitment would be great it seems.To me the whole argument about the textured front is what makes things extra difficult.Nothing about having a dbl din unit with full features is going to appear factory for our cars of this age.Id be more than happy with a plate in a black satin semi gloss to resemble the original.If you want a checkered pattern that badly it will take some patience but the cheap duplicolor carbon fiber spray on kit does a close enough job of this if you pay close attention to masking off certain areas.
The only people who know the pattern is missing is us fellow bird owners,which doesnt bother me at all.Im more concerned about function/fitment of the opening for a flush mount.
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I stopped working on the bezel, and released what I had done on Thingiverse here. It still does need a few more things. I stopped for a couple reasons:
1.) My build plate isn't big enough to print the whole thing in one piece. Could break it into two pieces, but meh.
2.) I don't own a Double Din radio to check fitment. Took all measurements off of the standard sizing
3.) Mostly Discouragement. One thing I hate are what I call "choosy purists". The people that want to mod a piece, and know that what THEY want to mod won't look factory, but are totally unhappy with anything else associated with the mod that is not an exact factory (or factory looking) piece. I understand being a purist, if you are going 100%, but if not then you can't argue with whats available or being made available.
Im probably going to stop designing parts for the car all together, keep the piece to myself, or just release it on Thingiverse with no mention anywhere. I received a lot of flack over my GTA seat belt barrels, because of not looking exactly factory (I fixed a lot of the factory design flaws in the originals).
1.) My build plate isn't big enough to print the whole thing in one piece. Could break it into two pieces, but meh.
2.) I don't own a Double Din radio to check fitment. Took all measurements off of the standard sizing
3.) Mostly Discouragement. One thing I hate are what I call "choosy purists". The people that want to mod a piece, and know that what THEY want to mod won't look factory, but are totally unhappy with anything else associated with the mod that is not an exact factory (or factory looking) piece. I understand being a purist, if you are going 100%, but if not then you can't argue with whats available or being made available.
Im probably going to stop designing parts for the car all together, keep the piece to myself, or just release it on Thingiverse with no mention anywhere. I received a lot of flack over my GTA seat belt barrels, because of not looking exactly factory (I fixed a lot of the factory design flaws in the originals).