Auto Detailing and Appearance Share tips and tricks on how to make your Third Gen shine! Get opinions on products or how something tasteful looks on your Chevrolet Camaro or Pontiac Firebird.
View Poll Results: November 2016 Car of the Month
LeonardS
10
16.13%
Polo Z03
15
24.19%
KMK454
11
17.74%
Citation X
5
8.06%
DBLTKE
14
22.58%
west1nm
7
11.29%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 21, 2016 | 03:58 PM
  #1  
Linson's Avatar
Thread Starter
COTM Editor (Retired)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,884
Likes: 83
From: Washington
Car: 89 Formula 350, TTA
November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

Which one of these final years Third Gen Camaros will be the next TGO Car of the Month?


LeonardS 1992 Z28 Heritage Edition




Polo Z03 1992 RS Heritage Edition




KMK454 1991 RS B4C



Citation X 1992 RS



DBLTKE 1991 Z28



west1nm 1991 Z28 Convertible
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2016 | 04:10 PM
  #2  
Polo Z03's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 223
Likes: 3
From: Schaumburg, IL
Car: 1992 Polo Green RS Z03
Engine: L03 - 5.0 Liter V8 TBI
Transmission: MD8 – 4 SPD Auto
Axle/Gears: GU2 - 2:73 Ratio
Re: November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

Thank you for the nomination . . there are some great cars to choose from.

My wife and I are honored. We are returning to the Third Gen Camaro. (We have a couple of forth and fifth gens in the garage.) We were very fortunate to acquire this wonderful piece of Camaro history, when a friend of ours told us about the car for sale. Astonishing that nearly 23 years old and virtually untouched. Our boy 'Marco' is very close to 98% original including the exhaust and tires. There are a few details we are working on to correct in hopes to make him complete.

I've been cataloging his "refreshing" in the "History" forum, which you can find here:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...ur-1992-a.html

Here he is on his run around wheels and tires, since I did not want to mess up the original wheels and tires:



A little Z03 history . . . Polo Green and Gold stripes was only available on the RS in the Heritage Edition, and there are most likely less than 500 coupes built. Unique to the Polo Green Heritage, is that the lower grille was black.

Polo Green is quite a color to behold in the correct light.



We are the second owners, the car was originally purchased in South Carolina, and then the owner relocated to Iowa. Sadly earlier this year, he no longer could take care of his Camaro and traded it in. We were very lucky to have had a friend let us know about the car and purchased it from the dealer in Iowa. Below are some fresh pics on his factory wheels and tires.





Our car is rolling on just under 17,000 miles and is nearly completely original down to the tires.



Have a few more details to address in the engine bay. At some point the OEM water pump must have died since it and a couple hoses have been replaced.





Unfortunately both of the original double loop seat belt guides got broken at some point, so we are running 2000 neutral loops instead. But the rest of the interior is nearly as it came off the show room floor.



We also do have the window sticker, owners manual, t-top bag and the original GM logo floor mats safely stowed away.



The underside and wheels are cleaning up really well too.





We are excited to be the custodians of this awesome piece of survivor Camaro history. We've brought him to quite a few events this year where he scored 1005 points at Camaro Nationals, 1st place win at Superfest, 1st place win and best 3rd Gen at NEOCC, as well as Lingenfelter favorite 3rd Gen at NEOCC.

Next event will be Muscle Car Nationals in Rosemont in November.

Thanks for looking!

Last edited by Polo Z03; Oct 21, 2016 at 04:18 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2016 | 04:50 PM
  #3  
west1nm's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 66
Likes: 3
From: MI
Car: 91 Z28 Vert
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T56
Re: November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

Thank you for the nomination! I purchased the car in 2010 and was originally a Z28 305TPI with 700R4 auto. Since then, I did the following:

LS3 w/ TSP Camshaft (231/236)
PRC Springs and CNC Cylinder Heads
Stainless Works Headers
FAST 102 Intake Manifold and Throttle Body
Holley EFI Harness and ECU
Tick T56 6-speed w/ adjustable Master and Monster StagAe 3 Clutch
Strange Dana 60 Trac-Loc w/ 4.11 gears
C5 Z06 Front Brakes and LS1 Z28 Rear Disc Brakes
Koni Adjustable Shocks
Eibach Springs
Stayfast Cloth top with glass window
Spohn Control Arms, Strut Brace, Caster Plates, Torque Arm, SFC's

I'm sure there's much more I forgot - thanks again!

































Attached Thumbnails November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**-o.jpg   November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**-.jpg   November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**-d.jpg   November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**-n.jpg   November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**-j.jpg  

November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**-l.jpg   November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**-m.jpg   November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**-zm.jpg   November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**-zs.jpg   November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**-img_5524.jpg  


Last edited by west1nm; Oct 21, 2016 at 07:17 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2016 | 11:30 PM
  #4  
Citation X's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 340
Likes: 1
From: Wichita Kansas
Car: 92 RS
Engine: LT1
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Re: November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

Thanks for the nomination! I purchased my addiction in 2001. She was a stock Teal 305 RS. After getting put to shame by a soccer mom in an import sedan, it was time to make some changes.
A buddy had a 96 Z28 and I liked how it ran. So in early 2002 I found a LT1 from a 94 Firebird. After discussing different options with my dad, I decided to cam and carb it. I bought a built 700r4, added a posi and 3.73 to the rear.
No more soccer moms smacking me around hah. In 2005 I had a small back fire through the carb and it pushed some gas onto the hot headers.
Time for a new hood and windshield.


Fast forward a few year to 2010 and I was getting the urge to paint her. While going around town getting estimates and checking out people work I ran into a guy at a shop that turned me on to TGO. Wow do I wish I would have found this place a lot sooner that I did. Decided on Luxo Blue and got some wheels.


A couple years later it was time to do interior. I found lethalinterors.com and I can't say enough about the quality of her work.




This years project was CTSV brakes from bigbrakeupgrade.com
They wouldn't fit under those Iroc replicas so on to the Vette ones . 18s up front and 19s out back.




The light was getting low in these shot but that's why I chose the color. I love how it looks in the sun and at night.









And my dirty little secret heh. One day I would like to paint the engine bay to match the car. I change stuff around enough that it makes it hard to keep clean. Guess that's part of the fun for me.

Last edited by Citation X; Oct 22, 2016 at 11:02 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2016 | 02:48 AM
  #5  
KMK454's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,337
Likes: 48
From: CA
Car: 1991 Camaro B4C
Engine: 305
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

Thanks for the nomination!

My car:


1991 Camaro

Current mileage: 26,2xx

Options:

B4C Special Service Package - includes:
- LB9 305 TPI (230HP, 300 TQ)
- N10 Dual Converter Exhaust
- J65 Four Wheel Disc Brakes
- G80 / GU6 - 3:42 posi rear
- QLC Z28 16x8 wheels and tires
- FE2 (Z28) suspension
T5 Manual
UL5 Radio Delete

Misc:
- Original Paint
- Fully documented (window sticker, old titles, original bills of sale, GMPP warranty, etc.)
- 5 previous owners, of which 2 were flipping the car; I have been in touch with all but the original owner
- Built in Van Nuys, sold in Illinois

Modifications:
- Aftermarket muffler. Still have (believed to be) original muffler
- Replaced original Good Year Gatorback tires with Firestones. Still have original tires
- Previous owner put a cheap tint on that I have yet to replace
- Replaced all bushings/rubber in suspension with polyurethane
- New AC compressor (have original still)
- Hidden iPod hookup behind radio delete panel (car came with factory speakers that a previous owner replaced with Kenwood speakers)

I view this car as unique in that its option packaging emphasizes performance. For example, the car has manual windows, locks, the base seats, base interior, and no rear defrost. The only thing it's missing performance-wise is 1LE, which would have given it the larger front disc brakes. Otherwise, it has all the go-fast stuff you could get from the factory thanks to everything that comes with B4C.

This car was never put in police service. The dealership confirmed that they intentionally ordered the car to circumvent fleet service so they could get a budget, sleeper Z28. I have email correspondence with the individual who ordered the car from GM confirming this.

Original Window Sticker:


RPO codes:


Brochures:


This car lives a different life from most low-mile, survivor cars. I always wanted a thirdgen, couldn't get one new. When I was finally able to get one, I wanted to best replicate being able to buy a brand new thirdgen Camaro. The 91-92 models are my favorite, but I prefer the RS bodywork to the Z28 spoiler and hood. I would have been happy with a low-mile, hardtop V8 T5 RS, but was fortunate enough to find this B4C, a Z28 in RS clothing.

I bought it in 2010 with about 12k miles on it, and have put on 14k of my own. I attempt to find the line between using the car appropriately versus using up the car. It looks great in photos, but it's hardly as clean as some of the other cars you'll find in this thread or on this forum. There are some paint chips and other imperfections; it may look clean when you photograph it from 10 feet away, but it's not concours ready. I share this not to diminish the car, but to let you know my philosophy on cars. I love preserving them, but the drive is an essential part of ownership. I try very hard to keep it immaculate. It doesn't see bad weather, but if you drive a car, rock chips happen. I bought it to have, to preserve, and to drive.

Mechanically, the car is excellent and is very fun. Great steering feel, crisp handling, surprising strength from the 305TPI/T5, and the NVH isn't as bad as magazine articles made them out to be. It does have some Van Nuys installed squeaks and rattles, but that just means it's factory original.

The car has been owned and operated in 9 unique states since 1991, including both coasts.

Pictures:

When I bought it (late 2010):


When it came home (late 2010):



2016:

This is a photo from a pro photographer who photographs a famous road - Mulholland Drive - and sells the photos. I did post-process it, adding a dark spot over my face. All other photos in this post are by me.


The car routinely goes to cars & coffee events, where I park it next to things you wouldn't normally expect to see beside a Camaro.


This is a composite of two photos - one of the hood up, one of the hood down. This visualizes the B4C - RS body work with TPI inside.


You can almost see the scuffs on the underside of the front ground effects.




Photo taken in Van Nuys:


Thanks for considering my car!

Last edited by KMK454; Oct 22, 2016 at 11:37 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2016 | 07:08 AM
  #6  
PurelyPMD's Avatar
Supreme Member
10 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,038
Likes: 52
From: Newtown, CT
Car: 1987 IROC Original Owner
Engine: LB9
Transmission: M39 MM5
Axle/Gears: G80 G92 J65
Re: November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

Another hard month again!

Although I really love west1nm's 1991 Z28 Convertible I had to go with KMK454's (Kurt) white 91 B4C.

Congratulations to all - they are all great cars!!!
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2016 | 02:20 PM
  #7  
LeonardS's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 787
Likes: 173
From: Jamestown, ND
Re: November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

Thank you for the nomination!!! As many of you know, I'm not a Tech Saavy guy. JT has usually been great about helping post photos, starting and keeping my website up, etc. My 92 still has 125 miles on it. You can read about my great adventure to acquire the last Thirdgen at: www.last1992camaro.com

I am always happy to answer questions and respond to emails.

ps: there are some beautiful cars nominated this month!!
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2016 | 12:31 PM
  #8  
dmccain's Avatar
Supreme Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 4,553
Likes: 806
From: South Ms
Car: 89 Firebird
Engine: 355 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt.Posi-3.73s
Re: November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

Very nice group here! I like em all but may be a lil partial to the B4C car.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2016 | 02:42 PM
  #9  
Bob88GTA's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,938
Likes: 99
From: Huntsville AL
Car: 88GTA
Engine: 5.7TPI
Transmission: Auto
Axle/Gears: 3.27
Re: November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

A very nice group once again! Good luck to all!
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2016 | 12:16 PM
  #10  
skinny z's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,917
Likes: 884
From: 53.0907° N, 113.4695° W
Re: November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

Originally Posted by KMK454
I bought it in 2010 with about 12k miles on it, and have put on 14k of my own. I attempt to find the line between using the car appropriately versus using up the car. It looks great in photos, but it's hardly as clean as some of the other cars you'll find in this thread or on this forum. There are some paint chips and other imperfections; it may look clean when you photograph it from 10 feet away, but it's not concours ready. I share this not to diminish the car, but to let you know my philosophy on cars. I love preserving them, but the drive is an essential part of ownership. I try very hard to keep it immaculate. It doesn't see bad weather, but if you drive a car, rock chips happen. I bought it to have, to preserve, and to drive.
I could not have said it better myself.
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2016 | 09:56 PM
  #11  
grnmachine's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 40
Likes: 12
From: Jamestown ,N.C.
Car: 92 RS Heritage Edition
Engine: LG4 305
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 10 bolt posi
Re: November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

Another great group of Camaros for November,but my vote goes to Polo Z03s' beautiful RS.I hope to have my Polo Green Z03 RS Hardtop Heritage Edition looking that good one day!
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 09:47 AM
  #12  
Polo Z03's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 223
Likes: 3
From: Schaumburg, IL
Car: 1992 Polo Green RS Z03
Engine: L03 - 5.0 Liter V8 TBI
Transmission: MD8 – 4 SPD Auto
Axle/Gears: GU2 - 2:73 Ratio
Re: November 2016 COTM **Voting Thread**

Originally Posted by grnmachine
Another great group of Camaros for November,but my vote goes to Polo Z03s' beautiful RS.I hope to have my Polo Green Z03 RS Hardtop Heritage Edition looking that good one day!
Thank you! . . . I'm jealous . . a rag top in PG . . Nice

It's a labor of love . . they are such neat cars. So happy to have gotten the opportunity to be the caretaker of this fantastic piece of history.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:40 PM.