Abubaca

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Irony is.....if I were to buy new....it'd be some form of blue metallic. Probably Jet stream blue. LOL.

Abubaca

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I was at the dealer with my buddy the other day (he bought a new Silverado) and we were looking at the Blazer. Dealer said the front end and dash were directly modeled after the Camaro to bring a sportiness to it. -And it does look pretty good. Not MY taste, but for a vehicle I'm not interested in, it wasn't bad looking.

Someone mentioned the vents, fins, spoilers and splitters on the newer cars. I definitely don't care for all that. For the insignificant number of guys who actually track their cars, I get it, but beyond that I think it does look very "teenager". Even that Silverado has too many......heck I don't even know what to call 'em. Very complicated. -And I get it, I'm not their target. But i think a truck should have a proper grill and a proper bumper. They managed to follow that trend for how many years? Yet still keep them updated and fresh. Now they all look like spaceships. Bah. Maybe I'm just getting old.

blackgloves

They have a really bright blue that's a big hit on Camaro6. It's pretty but I forget the name of it

blackgloves

They're putting splitters on full size trucks?? If so, ewww, on high performance cars, I like.

RKeats

Did they even make a blue GTA?[/QUOTE]

They made blue GTA's in 92' only, or maaaybe 91 as well. Not a great looking blue though IMO, probably why it wasn't very popular

88IROCvertZ

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I have to say after seeing pics of dmccain’s car and yours I like red now.. When that paint is fresh and not tired and faded it looks red hot on the right cars..

The new Blazer isn’t bad looking.. a little too much of a Camaro rip off and I might even say that look works better for an SUV.. SUV’s should have big grilles..

Did you catch the price on the Blazer though? The one I saw in the showroom by me was $49k. Even the salesman said they were priced too high and aren’t selling... The C8 can’t come in at $59,995 next to a family SUV for $50k.. That’s crazy.. I mean it was a loaded RS Blazer but still..

Dodge would put the Z06 motor in that and call it a Blazer SS

RKeats

I'll admit, that new RS Blazer is pretty cool looking, and is probably a blast to drive. I think they went the wrong route with the truck though. I think they should have brought back a good modernization of an original Blazer, including a removable roof and a 2 door option. Wranglers have become ridiculously expensive for what they are, yet still extremely popular, and it's all because of such a simple cool design. Imagine if GM just announced that they're bringing back a convertible or even just a 2 door Blazer again. People would go nuts, and I bet it would sell extremely well. Look at the Bronco for example! They've confirmed that it'll be convertible, with removable doors, and a 2 and 4 door option. I don't know about you guys, but depending on how they look and price out, I'm very much interested in getting one when they eventually land

ksr

I saw your thread about the paint job and look forward to seeing pics. White is one of my favorite 3rd gen colors; my first was white.

If/when I do this, honestly I'll spend what it takes do do a first rate job. If I'm going to do it, I'll do it right and I know it will cost me. My car has 35,000 miles on it. I take it out for a ride once or twice a week, but don't pile up a lot of miles. I really don't see ever selling it. The prior two times I sold a 3rd gen, I ended up regretting it, though both had very high miles. It's just my favorite car.

It will be a while before this happens. I just spent a lot on a new car this year. It's paid for, but that drained a lot of cash from me.

The two colors that I most often think of are blue and green. Probably something along the lines of the "lime rock green" that Chevy offered on Corvettes for a while. It would be that or some other rich metallic green. Or a some sort of deep metallic blue. Both would blend well with the tan interior.

vinny R

You guys know there will be no argument from me on GM Bright Red.

When I 1st saw that blazer I thought it was a Camaro crossover of some sort. I agree that it is cool looking and definitely designed for the times, just too much over the top for my taste..

The cost reflects all this Tech that is going into new vehicles. Like you guys said the base models are as nice as the deluxe nowadays just less performance. No different on the Ford side, my neighbor bought one of the new Edge Sport. It was a 18' leftover she bought about 6 months ago, she got a deal 10k off the 55k sticker...Ouch!

NoEmissions84TA

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The greatest profit margin is on trucks and SUVs.

ontogenesis

I know I'm way late to the game on this but...

I used to own a Cadillac ATS and GM announced that the 6th gen Camaro (lets be real, it's 5th gen) was going to be on the Alpha platform. The ATS was a small car and was based on the Alpha platform. Without any real evidence, I'd say the ATS was nearly the same footprint as a 1st gen Camaro, so I was crazy excited at the idea that GM would scale the 5th gen to 1st gen proportions when it switched to the Alpha. I was very disappointed when they didn't.

If they had, it would have shrunken 2" in every dimension and would have dropped a lot weight in the process, even fully loaded (300-400lbs). A 6th (5th) gen the size of a 1st gen, with it's current power level would have been a force to recon with.

blackgloves

Take a guess on why they didnt pull that off

2slow5.0

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I’d like to hear your input on why. I see most are disliking how the 5th/6th gen l
”looks” bigger. But by the measurements posted earlier it’ seems pretty negligible. I’ve parked my 4th gen next to a 6th and there’s minimal size difference. I’ have every intention of buying a 5th z28 or a 6th gen Ss/zl1. I’ve took out a new Mustang last year, nice car, not very comfortable at all though. That 6 gen was quite comfortable

1986BANDIT

you aren't grasping what this place is about yet for some reason,clues are in the name THIRDGEN.ORG!!!!!
we like gutting,ripping the innards out of these hideous blasphemous behemoths like a lion pride at feeding
time in the drought season and stuffing them into our gorgeous,sleek sexy third gens .then we love to show
how well balanced they were to begin with when track days come.truth of the matter is i would take any third
gen as it is or with an lsx /t56 conversion done clean and right over ANY 5TGH/6TH GEN suv currently offered.

1986BANDIT

notice how the third gen's roof is about were the window starts on the suv trying to look like a pony car?

here is a third gen beside a 4th gen,little size difference to me anyway.

blackgloves

I asked a simple question. While we are being jackasses though, I'll remind you that this thread is about 5th and 6th gen Camaros


Nice try Einstein

blackgloves

My guess is that they wanted the car to have the best of both worlds but simply couldnt pull it off. Meaning, they would have liked it to be lighter but just couldn't. Though the Camaro and Cadillac are similar the differences are what makes them weigh and perform differently.

Add all the air bags the 5th/6th gen has into a 3rd. Then all the leather, technology, bigger wheels, heavier tires, etc. It adds up quickly. Theres more than what I mentioned but between the platform and all the bells and whistles it becomes more challenging to keep weight down.

I would be interested in the weight difference between the tpi 305/350 and the 6.2L LT1

blackgloves

I noticed:
1. The picture(s) of said 6th and 3rd gen Camaros are in two separate photos making it literally impossible to compare

2. You posted a picture of a modified 3rd gen that's also been lowered


Try posting sober next time or think before you post. The measurements of all gens were posted

1986BANDIT

this forum isnt about 5th or 6th gens...this hypothetical "discussion" is like studying nuclear fission in a knitting class,know what im saying?

we get it,you like your car.we do not and we have given you several reasons why.

this horse is officially dead,close the thread please moderators

1986BANDIT

pls compare ride height of both silver camaros then disregard you last comment,thanks.i also moved the pictures to alleviate your confusion,maybe try to not tip the elbow before talking,lol

blackgloves

I'm not disregarding anything. I posted facts/data of the cars earlier. If posting pictures to give false information is your forte, have at it.

blackgloves

I'm not confused. In order to form an opinion based on a photo, the cars would have to be side by side and totally stock. But its 2 different photos and the 3rd is obviously lowered and far from stock

Are you a teenager?

1986BANDIT

no,im not but thank for the compliment

cut the bottom 8" out of the new camaro and it would be pretty stunning.also revise the wall that is the grille/front facia.
right about were that body line is needs to be dropped,the car also looks too short in front of the front tires.

ill try this again,hopefully you will understand this time,perspective is more than numbers its also having
a discerning eye and attention to details and how several visual cues contribute to the overall look of a vehicle.

blackgloves

Thank you for your opinion

Heres mine, the red firebird is ugly and I wouldnt be caught dead in it. The black SS I would be willing to make payments on for 5 years

2slow5.0

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To me, that pic actually shows the features that relate the cars. Long sloped hood, high fender wells, low roofline, albeit the black car looks like it has a lower roofline. Both have a pretty high doorlines by that comparo.

1986BANDIT

that camaro has a window thats about 6-7" high.its a retarded,hideous aspect ratio and the cars are truly a nightmare to look out of .
that and they "try and fail" to use the small window to give the illusion (and failure) of a wedge shape.they are ugly,it only takes one
look to see it.i hate fords but i would drive a new mustang any day over that minivan looking thing.its a very common opinion on here
and is pretty much universally shared,camaros make awesome parts cars but you really don't want to own or drive them.

there is a reason these cars are almost to the point of another discontinuation.
its due to disinterest and poor sales,because they look like A$$ and have no
allure to the people who can afford them.

1986BANDIT

you seem to be in the wrong place and also in need of an eye exam or possible mental assessment.
if you think that firebird looks anything but amazing your taste leaves a lot to be desired.the vision
of motion and speed when sitting still,the long lean sexy predator look.it just screams sexy and mean.

the camaro screams BILLBOARD,WALL,MINIVAN,TRANSPORT TRUCK.

trump should line these ugly "new camaro" things up around the border of texas and the other states bordering mehico.
they would run away from the border,screaming like their eyes had been gouged out and pray the the nightmare goes away.

blackgloves

So what's the reason for Mustang and Challengers declining numbers?

2slow5.0

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I own a 91 bird. So not quite sure what your gettin at what that comment. I simply stated your 2 pics showed the relation to the 2 cars. The thread is about comparing third gens to everything after, which happens to include 5th and 6th gens. And fwiw, im only 5'7 and found the mustang highly uncomfortable. Yet I had a 94 gt that I drove daily that was quite nice to drive

blackgloves

Mustang sales
2014
82,635

2015
122,349

2016
105,932

2017
81,866

2018
75,842

2019
*currently on pace to drop lower than 2018 sales total*

1986BANDIT

you understand the newish camaro is the new blazer? do you notice that AT ALL?

IS THIS A BLAZER OR A

A CAMARO,IM SO CONFUSED?????????????????

1986BANDIT

my apologies,this was directed at "new camaro guy" or "black gloves"

blackgloves

Sales 2018 quarter 1 vs 2019 quarter 1

Challenger, Mustang, Toyota 86, Nissan 370Z, Subaru BRZ, Mazda Miata MX5, Fiat 124 Spyder

All went negative comparing 1st quarter sales from last year to this year

Camaro actually went up.

My point? All cars in this class or that are similar are struggling. But I know it makes you feel better to bash GM and the 6th gen so please disregard the facts I provide

blackgloves

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blackgloves

Every one of these cars I posted are factory option paint colors if anyone is wondering

QwkTrip

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You guys remind me of two co-workers I once knew. They had lunch together every day. And every day they argued vehemently about climate change. It was bizarre. They seemed to have an endless appetite for repetitious argument that would cause ordinary people to go insane.

2slow5.0

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You guys are all confused. 5th gen is much smaller than previous generations

blackgloves

I have no issue with his opinion. I do have issue with people that make assumptions or present opinions as facts.

1986BANDIT

no facts were presented.its usually personal opinion or subjective comparison.
the bottom line my friend is the 5th/6th gen blazer/camaro doesn't invoke or inspire
the same passion the third gen cars do at least with the folks here at third gen.org

tbh i do not hate the 5th gen,6th gen camaros,they are wickedly balanced,brutally quick
but i can not "love them"they don't send the hairs on my arms up and give me chills.
i asked my 19 yr old daughter which car she preferred and she pointed at the red
gta i posted with the 5th gen above.she prefers the 1st and second gen cars even
more than i do . i would love to own any 67/69 or 70/73 camaro/firebird of varied
models.

the 2012 and up ,its fast,it handles great....it has good parts to swap on a sweet third gen.
check hawks build on this beauty: (a complete 5th gen gave its awesome guts to build this)

here is another,my personal favorite,the storm trooper:

these cars just oozz desire,lust,speed,handling and passion.this is my opinion and it is shared with members of this forum.
all the arguing ,dick waving and picture posting will not change this fact.

blackgloves

I posted many facts. You have conveniently ignored all of them as they directly contradicted your opinions that you posted in this thread.

I do not and never will like the nose of the red and, the white firebird you posted. It's too exaggerated and plain. Looks like something a young kid would design.

Just spent hours cleaning the wheels on my Iroc. My fingers are throbbing. I need to get an easier wheel to clean on that car. Z06 reproductions are not fun

427seven

IMO, I can oooo and ahhh about the new vette and maro, but like most performance stuff now it's made of unobtanium and corporate greed has dictated life spans for these cars so backyard mechanics 'f#ck off'. You can't work on them yourself, you gotta know a guy that knows a guy or have a pipeline of dough. I think they are really cool, but like lambo's and furr rare ee's every day guys can't get them. One good thing about the American stuff though, they make scaled down versions with relatively high production numbers, so after about 10 or 20 years you can do yer own thing with them, if you want....

I love the third gens. They were scorned when literally every tom, dick and hairy had one. But they are much more rare now, and are really cool as stockers or can provide a great platform for the 'built not bought' crowd. They had great styling, and are modern enough that they don't look old. It's why resto's are so hot, they can be as individual as their owners and house the latest tech if you want. You can work on them yourself without having to go to school 6 months of the year.

As the techno transition generation, they are electrified but don't have a wire going to the thousands of parts that make up a car. For me, this is why thirds rule.

1986BANDIT

a sd-455 of any year has always been a dream of mine.a guy who collects hemi cudas(several of them in fact)
drives and loves a stunning early 70-73 sd-455 trans am and loves it.its a very well balanced,beautiful car.

1986BANDIT

thanks for chiming in,i thought i was fighting a loosing battle here!!

ps:your car is in the top 3 modified third gens of all time in my book,you should be proud as im sure you are,wicked car and world class build!!!

1986BANDIT

try "iroc" rims maybe?

ps,this guy needs a new license plate "BADA$$ MINIVAN "

ZERO VIEWING ANGLE,100% VIEWING RESRICTION

blackgloves

The fact that you keep referring to the 6th gen as a SUV is beyond stupid.

It has 2 rear cameras. The one in the spolier can be turned on and used 100% of the time if you choose. Basically the rear view mirror turns into a screen and it's the entire mirror, not just a small rectangle. I've had no issues with "blind spots" because of it. I sometimes dont even use it. If you use your side mirrors and the rear view mirror (traditional way) I dont see all the fuss. The side mirrors now have indicators for objects approaching. But continue your nonsense

ThePain

Pretty much every car today has grown to absurd proportions, that doesn't make the Camaro a Crossover though.

Fullsize trucks have gotten bigger, compact trucks have evolved into midsize, crossovers have killed the wagon, and it's only going to get worse. Ford is starting to design what it calls: "Whitespace Vehicles", which is taking the bigger/taller car approach to level 9000.

blackgloves

Sounds like the 1950's all over again.