Need help from everyone with t-tops
Need help from everyone with t-tops
So heres what I'm trying to do:
Can everyone with t-tops list what year their car is, that kind of tops (acrylic or glass) and what kind of pins (latch, small, or wrapped in plastic) It seems that no one has a deffinant anwser to the questions that come up about t-tops and fitting into other cars. This way we can try to peice together what will fit on what.
Can everyone with t-tops list what year their car is, that kind of tops (acrylic or glass) and what kind of pins (latch, small, or wrapped in plastic) It seems that no one has a deffinant anwser to the questions that come up about t-tops and fitting into other cars. This way we can try to peice together what will fit on what.
Okay went out and took a quick look.
1991 Firebird
I suppose it fits the category "wrapped in plastic".
There is a plastic bushing around the metal pin. It snugs in, and the pin goes into the channel.
1991 Firebird
I suppose it fits the category "wrapped in plastic".
There is a plastic bushing around the metal pin. It snugs in, and the pin goes into the channel.
I have a 91 RS and i have T-tops. My Tops are both different. The Drivers Side is acrylic and pass. is Glass. I have problems with the Pass. side leaking in the rain so i think it could be because of that. I JUST bought a set of glass tops for 20 bucks. Perfect condition and fit but they dont seal very well. I am thinking of changing the seals or maybe selling them. Hope that helps.
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My 1982 Z-28 has the hook style glass tops.
I believe 82-83 ( possibly 84) factory T's had the hook style.
I know that my 85 RS had locking pin style glass tops.
A friend of mine has a 1983 Z-28 with the dealer installed T's and they are about 3 1/2" shorter (front to back).
I don't know what year they offered acrylic tops.
I believe 82-83 ( possibly 84) factory T's had the hook style.
I know that my 85 RS had locking pin style glass tops.
A friend of mine has a 1983 Z-28 with the dealer installed T's and they are about 3 1/2" shorter (front to back).
I don't know what year they offered acrylic tops.
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Car: 1991 Pontiac ta 5.0l 2005 pontiac gxp 5.3l ls4 dod 2003 GMC Envoy 4.2l
91 ta
glass tops
metal pin and metal handles with plastic trim on locking edge
locks
also have original inserts to block the sun that match the int of veh
glass tops
metal pin and metal handles with plastic trim on locking edge
locks
also have original inserts to block the sun that match the int of veh
My 92 came with the lexon tops with plastic pins, I replaced them with 88 or 89 glass tops with metal pins. They work but I had to adjust the mounts lower to hold the tops down tighter. My lexon tops didnt leak at all, the glass tops leak under alot of water pressure.
Does the mounting hardware for the metal pins and the plastic coated pins mount the same on the camaros? If they do I need the mounting hardware for the metal pins. Anybody got some?
Does the mounting hardware for the metal pins and the plastic coated pins mount the same on the camaros? If they do I need the mounting hardware for the metal pins. Anybody got some?
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
83 Trans AM - Glass Tops - Metal Hooks
87 Formula (both of them) - Glass tops - Metal Pins
91 Formula - Glass tops - Metal Pins
89 Formula (salvageyard) - Acrylic tops - Plastic Pin Sleves
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87 Formula (both of them) - Glass tops - Metal Pins
91 Formula - Glass tops - Metal Pins
89 Formula (salvageyard) - Acrylic tops - Plastic Pin Sleves
John
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Car: Camaro
Engine: Carbed L98
Transmission: TH350
Axle/Gears: 3.73
89 rs T-tops , glass. It looks like a plastic pin. Its round with a beveled edge that goes into like a socket. Kind of like the tip of a IAC motor.
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From: Tallahassee, FL. USA
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: 350 Crate Motor
Transmission: Tremec TKO
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 3.73
My 92 RS came with the Lexan tops with plastic sleeved pins.
The coating is totally cracked from twist/flexing.Looks like you're looking through spiderwebs.
Recently picked up a pair of earlier glass tops in great condition for $20 at swap meet.
Plan on swapping the hardware over to the glass ones soon.
-Rich-
The coating is totally cracked from twist/flexing.Looks like you're looking through spiderwebs.
Recently picked up a pair of earlier glass tops in great condition for $20 at swap meet.
Plan on swapping the hardware over to the glass ones soon.
-Rich-
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
jim adjusting is easy,
drop the trim pieces from around the hole in the body,
then take a 7mm nutdriver and adjust up & down accordingly. The adjusters are like a "dual cam" to best describe it...
once you look at it you will see the slots and figure it out...
John
drop the trim pieces from around the hole in the body,
then take a 7mm nutdriver and adjust up & down accordingly. The adjusters are like a "dual cam" to best describe it...
once you look at it you will see the slots and figure it out...
John
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From: Somewhere around the South Side of Chicago just crusin' in one of the Niteriders
Car: 92RS 25th Anniv./88 IROC Z28 Vert
Engine: 305 TBI w/Tpi Air / 305 TPI
Transmission: 700r4/700r4
Axle/Gears: Posi
I got the glass with the metal pins in my '86 SC with locks. No leaks, scratches or rattles, thank You ***!.
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Car: 1991 Corvette Coupe
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4/4L60 same trans different name
1991 RS Lexan
1987 Z28 Glass
i have since swapped those two over since the Z28 isnt on the road yet
last nite at the E-town swap meet i picked up a set of GLASS T-TOPS in PERFECT CONDITION in THE BAG for $20 :rockon:
so now BOTH of my camaro's can have glass t-tops instead of crappy *** lexan
1987 Z28 Glass
i have since swapped those two over since the Z28 isnt on the road yet
last nite at the E-town swap meet i picked up a set of GLASS T-TOPS in PERFECT CONDITION in THE BAG for $20 :rockon:
so now BOTH of my camaro's can have glass t-tops instead of crappy *** lexan
83 Z28
Glass
Hook Style
They don't leak but they rattle so much they drive me insane. It's right at the hook on the driver's side and the handle on the pass. side. Any suggestions to make it shut up?
Glass
Hook Style
They don't leak but they rattle so much they drive me insane. It's right at the hook on the driver's side and the handle on the pass. side. Any suggestions to make it shut up?
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Absolom,
I might suggest replacing them with the pin style from 84+, go to your favorite salvageyard, and see if they have any broken T's, it MIGHT be possible to replace the hardware. You will also obviously have to replace the hardware on the car too....
it might help...
I was pretty sure you could adjust the early "hook" style t's too.
John
I might suggest replacing them with the pin style from 84+, go to your favorite salvageyard, and see if they have any broken T's, it MIGHT be possible to replace the hardware. You will also obviously have to replace the hardware on the car too....
it might help...
I was pretty sure you could adjust the early "hook" style t's too.
John
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From: fayetteville, nc
Car: 86 firebird
Engine: v6
Transmission: 7004r
86 bird t-tops
I know this stupid so bear with me. How do you know if it glass or acrylic? I am new to the car things...in fact looking for a book called automative for dummies..
it think it's glass.
I love my t-tops. I got myself the storage bags from my ex-bf. For free
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it think it's glass.
I love my t-tops. I got myself the storage bags from my ex-bf. For free
:rockon:
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Chances are your tops are Glass, unless someone changed them to acrylic.
The quickest & easiest way to teoll is to look at your tops. When you pull your tops off if there is a metal strip on the front and back of the top then you have the acrylic.
Typically the acrylic tops also have a tendancy to look cracked with what looks like a spiderweb cracks. that is called crazing, and is common with acrylic with age.
hope that helps
John
The quickest & easiest way to teoll is to look at your tops. When you pull your tops off if there is a metal strip on the front and back of the top then you have the acrylic.
Typically the acrylic tops also have a tendancy to look cracked with what looks like a spiderweb cracks. that is called crazing, and is common with acrylic with age.
hope that helps
John
Anyone have a picture of the pin style vs. the hook style? I realize it should explain itself but I would like to see what the difference really is.
okfoz - I tried to fix the hook mechinisim this weekend only to find that I would need something to press the rivit-like pins that join the hook to the rest of the mechinism. Seems these get loose over time. Would a set of new T's with pins fit right if I were to just replace my T-tops? If I can just replace the latching portion, I have no idea how that separates from the glass.
Thanks for the help
okfoz - I tried to fix the hook mechinisim this weekend only to find that I would need something to press the rivit-like pins that join the hook to the rest of the mechinism. Seems these get loose over time. Would a set of new T's with pins fit right if I were to just replace my T-tops? If I can just replace the latching portion, I have no idea how that separates from the glass.
Thanks for the help
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
never done it, I have seen the earlier style T-tops with the later style glass but I really do not know....
If your wondering what I am talking about is on the early glass they painted only portions of the glass, whereas on the later models there was more paint. for example. On the later styles, like on my 87, the paint was on all the edges, on my 83, the paint was just on the outside (by the handle) it did not go all the way around...
John
If your wondering what I am talking about is on the early glass they painted only portions of the glass, whereas on the later models there was more paint. for example. On the later styles, like on my 87, the paint was on all the edges, on my 83, the paint was just on the outside (by the handle) it did not go all the way around...
John
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Car: 94 Camaro
Engine: 3.4L
Transmission: 4l60e
'88 SC
I had the metal pins in before, but I (the dumba$$) forgot to lock the pass on day
and well going 60 down the highway, you get the picture... I now have ones from an '88 IROC w/ the Plastic around the pins, It still bolts in, but now they leak
They both were glass.
To the best of my knowledge, heres the facts: (correct me if I am wrong!)
82-84 Glass Tops, Hook Style Pin
85-90 Glass Tops, Metal Pins
91-92 Lexan (aka Ackrlic), Plastic Wrapped
I think all came w/ locks
and as far as glass w/ plastic wrapped pins I dunno...
I had the metal pins in before, but I (the dumba$$) forgot to lock the pass on day
and well going 60 down the highway, you get the picture... I now have ones from an '88 IROC w/ the Plastic around the pins, It still bolts in, but now they leak
They both were glass.To the best of my knowledge, heres the facts: (correct me if I am wrong!)
82-84 Glass Tops, Hook Style Pin
85-90 Glass Tops, Metal Pins
91-92 Lexan (aka Ackrlic), Plastic Wrapped
I think all came w/ locks
and as far as glass w/ plastic wrapped pins I dunno... Junior Member
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Car: 1982 Z28 Indy Pace Car
Engine: 305 LU5
Transmission: T5
Check out this web site. It has a table that list the evolution of the camaro/firebird T-tops.
http://www.sunroofdoctor.com/
http://www.sunroofdoctor.com/
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