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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 07:41 PM
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z28 emblems

I'm looking for Z28 emblems for my 91 camaro rs. I'm looking for the two side ground effect emblems and the rear bumper emblem hopfully the silver and black ones but will take the gold and black ones.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 07:53 PM
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Probably still available at your local GM dealer, or Classic Industries
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 10:51 PM
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 12:52 AM
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Last time I checked GM they were very expensive for the emblems
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 01:52 AM
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i paid roughly 10 for both sides and 10 for the rear and 12 for the 5.7 when i replaced all my old existing worn out stuff.

i don't agree with what your doing.........but its your car and i don't have to look at it in my driveway.:nono:
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 05:35 AM
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Really I can see why you don't agree, I think I am going to go with my other option and just getting where the emblems would be filled in because I hate when other camaro pre judge the RS. My camaro isn't the V6 model like everyone thinks it is.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by 91CamaroRSV8
Really I can see why you don't agree, I think I am going to go with my other option and just getting where the emblems would be filled in because I hate when other camaro pre judge the RS. My camaro isn't the V6 model like everyone thinks it is.
Its also not a Z28. I don't agree with it either. If you want a Z28, buy a Z28. Otherwise people will prejudge it as a Z28, and then when they smoke you they get to brag that they beat a Z28 when it was really only a 305TBI RS.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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Well towards the end of the winter I want to put this thing in the shop for a bigger motor, the 305 is still in great shape the car only has 70k miles Also I can get the tpi system off of my boys camaro that he sold after taking the tpi system off. The point of not buying a Z28 is because every Z28 in my area is beat on. I bought this RS from like a 45 year old lady I couldn't ever see her ever racing it. Plus it's rare to find Z28's in my area that don't have a quarter of a million miles on them. I've had 2 other f-bodies and they were fast but wouldn't it be better to get one built the way you like it. 86 Trans-am (First year of tpi) and an 89 Formula 350.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 06:04 PM
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No flames here....

I can appreciate your intentions, and I think they're honestly good ones....but the car is what it is. If you drop in a twin turbo ls1 it's still an RS.

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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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I agree it will always be an RS. Also I wanted to add that I beat an I-Roc with my 92 Cougar LS V6, so it's not also what you got it's the condition that your car is in also. The I-Roc was a 305 tpi 5 speed and my cougar was a 3.8 liter v6 non supercharged with K&N and a less restricted exhaust. What I am getting to is the I-roc probaly had alot of miles and my cougar only had 45-50k when I raced him. Miles mean alot on the cars engine and if I want to buy a z28 I don't want lots of miles.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 08:12 PM
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Its also not a Z28. I don't agree with it either. If you want a Z28, buy a Z28. Otherwise people will prejudge it as a Z28, and then when they smoke you they get to brag that they beat a Z28 when it was really only a 305TBI RS.
Whatever happened to your "whatever soaks your goat" bit? *** forbide he do something you dont agree with...
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 10:38 PM
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Quick6 can I see pics of your interior I want to see what the 4th generation leather seats look like inside because I was thinking about getting them.
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 12:28 AM
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What about all of the people who make iroc clones? I think they should have just found an iroc! The dealer does still have them and the prices are not that bad for them. The places above are all good refferences! I replaced everything when i got my car re-painted. I still think you should leave the emblems alone and stick with working on your motor. This way when some meat head in a Mustang or 4th gen pulls up next to you and you whoop the **** out of them, it will give that "sleeper" affect. It is your car though, so good luck with it!
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 12:57 AM
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You can get the emblems from either Classic Industries at www.classicindustries.com or Next Generation by Year One at www.nextgeneration.com.

As far as the higher morality of swapping emblems, it would clearly be wrong to just swap the emblems (especially on a V-6 car). But, there's not really anything on a Z-28 or IROC that you can't either swap in or buy as-good-or-better aftermarket equipment. For instance, if you had a full Hotchkis suspension, with aftermarket brakes, high-ratio steering, and the like (assuming you have at least a TPI 305 or better), would that really be so wrong? If the car is truly IROC or Z-28 equiped performance wise, then who cares if the only non-Z thing is the vin? It would certainly be O.K. to have a pro-street car (where nothing is stock but the body) with IROC or Z-28 emblems. So I say "Knock Youself Out." Just be true to the heritage of the Camaro and don't defame the Z-28 and IROC nameplates. Of course, my opinion is worth about as much as everyone else's when it comes to YOUR car.
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 04:55 AM
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Mine isn't a V6 it's a 305 V8
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 05:24 AM
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I just replaced my faded Z28 badges recently. I got em from partszoneonline.com. I thought about getting some RS badges so people would think I had a V6. Heh heh.
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by MetalliCamaroRS
Its also not a Z28. I don't agree with it either. If you want a Z28, buy a Z28. Otherwise people will prejudge it as a Z28, and then when they smoke you they get to brag that they beat a Z28 when it was really only a 305TBI RS.
The 305 tbi came in some iroc-z, So dont bash them to much.
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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why don't you just leave the RS emblems, so when you smoke someone, they'll be more suprised?
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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im not saying anythng bad about I-rocs i love them, but the one I beat had tuned port injection because she showed me what he had under the hood.
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 09:05 PM
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Quick6 can I see pics of your interior I want to see what the 4th generation leather seats look like inside because I was thinking about getting them.
Sure, Ill try and dig some up for you.
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 11:42 PM
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Whatever happened to your "whatever soaks your goat" bit? *** forbide he do something you dont agree with...
I was just saying why I don't agree with it. I don't care what he does, its his car.

And I wasn't bashing the 305TPI.
I was just saying that people may assume its a 305 or 350 TPI, and if they beat him they'll be awfully proud and they'll go around bragging the beat a "Z28" when it wasn't a Z28.
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 11:50 PM
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Whatever happened to your "whatever soaks your goat" bit? *** forbide he do something you dont agree with...

Whats with the ""?

He simply gave his opinion. He wasnt an ******* about it. Other people in this thread gave there opinion too........

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The engine dosent even matter. You could put a 400 HP 350 TPI in a RS and it will not be a z28.

Just saying though......Nothing wrong with a RS, or building up a RS.
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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 05:38 AM
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hate to **** you folks off even more, but i'm making a Z28 REPLICA out of my currently V6 RS

i have a 350 TPI sitting in the garage waiting to go, i have the wing, i have the hood, i have the blisters

i pretty much have everything (i think i still need a wonderbar) to make a decent replica

i see replicas of vintage camaros (SS, Z28, RS) all the time at car shows

as long as its done in the correct context (ie, not putting Z28 on a V6 sport coupe) i dont see why not,

i dont really agree with what this dudes doing (305 TBI, RS body) but hey, whatever tickles your pickle
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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 08:20 AM
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Yeah, I can see it being kinda okay if you make it perform like a Z28. But still not somethng I would do. It would probably be easier and cheaper to buy a Z28 than convert an RS to a Z28. But go for it. As long as you don't try and sell it as a Z28
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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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easier hell yeah!

cheaper not really

i couldnt sell this car for peanuts if i tried

it almost has 200,000 miles on the original V6

its got new paint though, thats the only good side

the interior needs works

once i get the engine built, it'll have some brand new (well rebuilt) power

i kinda figure i'll give this car the overhaul it needs and make it perform at the same time
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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 12:35 PM
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Hey I told them I was getting tpi and a bigger motor (still not sure 350, 355, or 383 stroker) mine would perform better then a Z28 and I would never sell it as a Z28. I already got a 350 turbo trans rebulit and put in my car, after the motor I just got to get a nice posi rear.
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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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hmmmmm my 87 Z28 was sold to me as a Z28

it had so many pieces that were out of place i couldnt tell what it is

i never checked for a wonderbar yet

and i dont have ANY rpo stickers to tell me what it is

hmmmmmm

i mite just build whatever I want out of it
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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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i don't see why those who want to do something like this or even those who think it's wrong make such a big deal out of it....

no matter what you do the car is what it is...

if i had any idea i would have done what i have i would have bought a 2.8 berlinetta...........well maybe not, but thought has crossed my mind. it's extremely cheaper.

but, even if i had done such a thing i would still sell it as a 2.8 berlinetta..........just custom kandy red and everything else!

do whatever makes you happy and quit making such a big deal out of it. if you can look at in your driveway and be happy that's all that matters.

although, you had better hope that whatever engine you put in there can beat even the slowest stock z28 before you ever think of putting the badges on otherwise it's just wrong...
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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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what if we dont know wtf the car really is?

an LG4 was available in the SC, Z28 and IROC for 1987

hmmm what do i want? SC Z28 or an IROC?

although there are telltale signs of an IROC

particularly the wonderbar and the 1/2" suspension difference

Hey- i never said I was gonna have a V6 Z28 did i?

nope, i said i was going to "restore" the car as a replica of a Z28 all in the correct contexts..........except it will eventually wind up with a T56

point being is- if somebody is going to make a replica and go 100% to factory specs, then i see no problem with that whatsoever, cuz ya know what? 75% of the 67-69 SS, Z28's etc i see at car show are replicas

and whats worse is that they have the wrong engines

i saw a 69 Z28 with a 307
i saw another one with a 350
and another with a 327.................................
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OK since this is never gonna get back on topic...

Here's my problem with the "clone" issue. If I stop you on the street and see your Z28, or IROC, or whatever badges and ask you if it's a real Z28, you have to choices. 1) you can lie. 2) you can admit it's not a real Z28, and then what's the point anyway. I just think it's kinda shady. One guy out there built a first gen Penske #6 Trans-AM z28 "clone". He liked it so he built it. But at shows, it's clearly stated as a "replica/clone". It's like paying homage. By changing the badges of a thirdgen and driving it everyday, it's just kinda sneaky.

As far as it's performance, it doesn't matter. Making an RS perform like a Z is great, but it's still an RS. I have an Iroc. If I make it run the 1/4 in 12 seconds, it's certainly not stock...does that mean now it's something other than an Iroc?

Any f-body is cool, be proud of it. Make it perform the way you want. Make it look like whatever you want. Be proud of having an RS that kicks a$$.

I'm not picking on 91camaroRSV8, I'm just using the rs/z28 thing as an example.... Iroc/SC/RS......TA/GTA same thing.....
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Hey I told them I was getting tpi and a bigger motor (still not sure 350, 355, or 383 stroker) mine would perform better then a Z28 and I would never sell it as a Z28. I already got a 350 turbo trans rebulit and put in my car, after the motor I just got to get a nice posi rear.
Okay, well I didn't know you were putting a new engine in. I suppose its not too bad then, but don't badge it until you have the engine in. But even then, if it were me, I'd leave the badges say RS. Then when someone rips on it being "just an RS", smoke em and rub it in that they got beat by "just an RS"
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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 09:12 PM
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Thankyou Abubaca I just want to make it a kick *** f-body, I had other plans instead of emblems. I was thinking about getting where the emblems are filled in and then after I smoke someone in a race make them guess what kind of Camaro do they think it is and then laugh at them when I tell them they got smoked by a Rally Sport. (This is of course after the motor change) It's been a very interesting conversation and its good i got to hear other peoples opinions.
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 04:00 AM
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OK since this is never gonna get back on topic...

save your breath you missed the point completely
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 05:03 AM
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did anyone ask you? um no...
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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you guys are pretty defensive.....

you got your opinions what does it matter that there is an overwhelming vote not to do it...do whatever you want just like you planned!
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 12:44 PM
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1991tealRS.....i wasn't refering to you specifically. Given your situation, I'm not sure what I'd do.

My whole point is to be proud of what you have. Regardless of what model it is.
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did anyone ask you? um no...
nobody needed to ask me..............
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 07:24 PM
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Quick6 can I see pics of your interior I want to see what the 4th generation leather seats look like inside because I was thinking about getting them.
Sure...
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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heh, some of you people act like some of us are hacking up 1969 Zl-1 corvettes (only 2 produced)

get over it really................


i see how this is can be "*****" in some peoples minds

(like adding V-tec emblem to a honda)

but, i am adding the hood
i am adding the aerowing
i have a 350 sitting in my garage
and i have a TPI comming to me in 3 weeks

hmmmmm, guess i should stay stock and leave everything alone and leave the weak little V6 in there huh?

ummmmm, i have every intention of making a dead-on Z28 CLONE and letting people know its a clone

some of you act like you own the holy grail of cars, these are friggin 3rd gen f-bodies for christ sakes!

my logic:

i can sell my car as it is for about $700
(car is in great shape, but has a 3.1 with nearly 200,000 miles)
or i can put in my NEW motor, a newer transmission, and a new rearend, and have a newer more reliable car, and not have to deal with the hassles of finding a car, selling a car, etc..........

now i feel like i am wasting my time trying to explain myself........

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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 10:00 PM
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With the money they saved by buying/ keeping a V6 or RS they should have the extra money to purchase the Z28 emblems
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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 04:42 AM
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only money i saved with a V6 was with insurance

this friggin V6 is a PIG!
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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 04:44 AM
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With the money they saved by buying/ keeping a V6 or RS they should have the extra money to purchase the Z28 emblems
can you please elaborate?
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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by 1991tealRSt-topGuy
can you please elaborate?
Do I really need too?
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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 07:00 PM
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if you think i am putting Z28 emblems on a V6 car

YOUR WRONG!

the emblems will be the LAST thing to be added


i have my TPI system coming to me in 3 weeks

i am also ready to buy my re-ring kit for my 350

i already have the hood, wing and blisters

so, yes, please do elaborate
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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by 1991tealRSt-topGuy
if you think i am putting Z28 emblems on a V6 car

YOUR WRONG!

the emblems will be the LAST thing to be added


i have my TPI system coming to me in 3 weeks

i am also ready to buy my re-ring kit for my 350

i already have the hood, wing and blisters

so, yes, please do elaborate
You found blisters? You bastard!

I like the quote you have in your location :rockon:
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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 08:19 PM
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So you ARE putting them on, just not first thing.




You sure are a good guy for waiting till the end.
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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 01:01 AM
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My point is that a Z28 will cost more then a equal RS. That is a obvious point. The RS is a cheaper car So going by your logic since I want a Firehawk I should purchase all the components and install them on REGULAR T/A and have Firehawk badges all over? Sorry I don'y have RPO WU6 so it is not a hawk. A Hawk will cost more money but is it the real deal? Yes! You are missing a certain RPO you need. This is not a flame to the RS owners out there but your car is a lower model then a Z28. Face it and stop trying to pass it off as something it is not! That is like me saying my regular T/A is a Hawk. It is not. Even though I don't consider it a "regular" T/A it is not a Hawk. As much as I wish it was, and I purchased a Hawk I know it's a T/A. I want a Hawk so when my loan is paid off I will go out and spent the cash on the real deal. I have no respect for people like you who try and pass something off that it is not! You are ignorant and have a huge ego to support if you need to make it a higher model THEN IT REALLY IS!!! Did I elaborate enough for you? Half rate car!!! Just like my T/A is half rate to a Hawk.
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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 04:38 AM
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I think I am going to go with my other option and just getting where the emblems would be filled in because I hate when other camaro pre judge the RS.
How about just buying the "Camaro" Emblems for the Sides & Bumper? if your so concerned about people knowing that its a RS....and it wouldn't be misleading anyone, because an RS is still a Camaro.

For me, I like my RS, and I am proud of it....I'd rather have it than a similar Z28, and when I am done with it, I'll be glad that people think that it's "just an RS"
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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 06:52 AM
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passing it off as something that it is truly not??

what about all the guys i see at car shows with vintage camaros who upgrade them to higher model specs and change them to the respective model


i'm sure though, if they were to sell there cars, they would let the owner know it is not a true SS, but say base 1969 camaro with a 396 transplant

i'm not going to try to sell the car as a Z28....................

i want the emblem to reflect what i have under the hood, thats really about it

i'm not egotistical in any way

i'm very against putting emblems on cars in a incorrect context way..........say putting GT emblems on a 4 cyl mustang

thats just gay

i dont understand why this strikes so many people as the 10th sin

ummmm like i said, i am creating a replica

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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 06:53 AM
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oh yeah, i know of people who have created firehawk replicas too

you now have my permission to wet your pants
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