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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:08 PM
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NOSE PIECE differences

What is the difference between the 82-84 Camaro NOSE piece and the 85+ nose piece? The reason Im asking is cuz I want to put on different ground effects on my 83 Z28. I looked at the pictures and I can find any visual differences that would hinder the placement of the 85+ ground efx on a 83 Nose....


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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:13 PM
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No difference, the mounting holes might be different, i know that 91-92 gfx have different mounting holes.

You won't have any trouble installing them. USE THE SEARCH BUTTON HOWEVER next time, this topic has been beat to death.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:17 PM
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Hate to burst everyones bubble.....but there is NO WAY that any 1985-1990 or 1991-1992 front nose ground effects will fit on an 82-84 Z28 front nose. I have tried it on my 84 when I had it....and I had to end up putting a 1992 nose on it since I wanted to convert it to the 1992 Z28 style.....the noses are COMPLETELY different.....just look at the turn signals for instance.....the 85-92 style are flush with the rest of the nose...trust me...I have tried....and it didn't work...
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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Hate to burst everyones bubble.....but there is NO WAY that any 1985-1990 or 1991-1992 front nose ground effects will fit on an 82-84 Z28 front nose. I have tried it on my 84 when I had it....and I had to end up putting a 1992 nose on it since I wanted to convert it to the 1992 Z28 style.....the noses are COMPLETELY different.....just look at the turn signals for instance.....the 85-92 style are flush with the rest of the nose...trust me...I have tried....and it didn't work...
WHOA, you must be stupid, yeah the turn signals are different, and the older ones had slots in the nose too.

Oddly enough my friend CashZ28 installed 86 gfx on his 83 Camaro and he never replaced the nose. Now go figure? What did he do different that you didn't?
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:25 PM
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I dont understand how turn signals would in any way affect INSTALLING ground efx. I was just looking at the ground efx themselves and the overall shape of the nose. I can drill new mounting holes or whatever, i just want to get rid of that front ground effect.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by un4givin89
WHOA, you must be stupid, yeah the turn signals are different, and the older ones had slots in the nose too.

Oddly enough my friend CashZ28 installed 86 gfx on his 83 Camaro and he never replaced the nose. Now go figure? What did he do different that you didn't?

lol....how do you figure? the 82-84 Z28's did not have slot's in the nose.....where did you get that from? The noses are completely different.....
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:28 PM
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tell ya what....go ahead and try it...I guarantee it will not work.....the nose on my 91 Z28 is completely different.....look..where the ground effect is.....it's not straight across like the 82-84 style.....it has the same contour as the nose.....
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:33 PM
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And 82, hurm...... WRONG again
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by 84customZ28
tell ya what....go ahead and try it...I guarantee it will not work.....the nose on my 91 Z28 is completely different.....look..where the ground effect is.....it's not straight across like the 82-84 style.....it has the same contour as the nose.....

You should stop being an *** lil boy and be alil more polite to this person and provide some postive feedback, not the smart *** feedback you have given
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by un4givin89


And 82, hurm...... WRONG again
Um.....and you know what????? That's not even a Z28 buddie...so no...your wrong again.....
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:38 PM
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Um.....and you know what????? That's not even a Z28 buddie...so no...your wrong again.....
Hey farm boy, did I say anything about it being a Z28, you said the older camaros didn't have slots, they had slots!

The nose is the same, minus slots. They will go on, I seen it with my own eyes. You are not the final authority on this subject.

Now, carry your sorry *** off the computer and back to your field.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:41 PM
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Isnt that an SC nose? I thought SC noses were different. Anyway, I just wanted to know if i could mount different ground efx, thats all....i want a final answer, ANYONE else?
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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Well.....the subject was for an 83 Z28.....not a standard Camaro front nose......are you intelligent enough to understand this? Have you ever done it before??? If you haven't...then maybe you should shut your mouth....I'm not trying to be mean...but on a 82-84 Z28 nose...the 85-90 or 91-92 Ground Effects WILL NOT FIT!! They might fit on a standard Camaro nose...I have never tried it...but they will not fit on an 82-84 nose. Mshapiro...hope everything works out...trust me...I'm not leading you in a wrong direction.....
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by un4givin89

Oddly enough my friend CashZ28 installed 86 gfx on his 83 Camaro and he never replaced the nose. Now go figure? What did he do different that you didn't?
That would be interesting to see considering the newer gfx (85-92, bottom) wouldn't line up around the grille area correctly on the older style nose (82-4 top). I'm also failrly sure the dimentions of the noses are different making the newer fx not conform easily to the shape of the older style nose.

USE THE SEARCH BUTTON HOWEVER next time, this topic has been beat to death.
Maybe he could dig up even more incorrect infomation about this doing that as well...
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by deadbird
That would be interesting to see considering the newer gfx (85-92, bottom) wouldn't line up around the grille area correctly on the older style nose (82-4 top). I'm also failrly sure the dimentions of the noses are different making the newer fx not conform easily to the shape of the older style nose.



Maybe he could dig up even more incorrect infomation about this doing that as well...
Thanks for backing me up dude....and the pictures are even better.....I just didn't want mshapiro to get confused and try to put an 85-92 ground effects on his 82-84 nose....
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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I will have to agree with 84customZ28 on this subject because I have tried it and it did not work! un4given you must be some kind of dumbass... I tried it and I had to change the whole front nose... And you know what 84custom should never had said he is not being mean because you have gave him **** about this and you didn't even understand that mshapiro is working on a Z28 not a standard camaro... There is no way they are going to fit on his car... And for you un4given, you need to take your *** and go find a hole and crawl in it, because you do not know **** and you are being an *******!!! So you need to carry your *** away from the computer and stop being an idiot... Man I could go on and on about you being such a dumbass but I do not want to waste my time... Try finding some correct information next time, *******!!!

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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by deadbird
That would be interesting to see considering the newer gfx (85-92, bottom) wouldn't line up around the grille area correctly on the older style nose (82-4 top). I'm also failrly sure the dimentions of the noses are different making the newer fx not conform easily to the shape of the older style nose.



Maybe he could dig up even more incorrect infomation about this doing that as well...
Thanks for the backing on this one!!! He is wrong and I think he knows it now!!!
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 07:07 AM
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un4givin89, why don't you actually trying thinking before you post for once? maybe even a little research? the noses are completely different, even if you would somehow put a lower spoiler from the gfx on a later car onto an earlier nose, it would look like total and complete ****, because it's a very different design.
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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You would have to change the nose to the 85-92 IROC/Z28 nose in order for the ground efx to bolt up.Also you would have to cut a slot on the lower part of the fenders for the ends of the lower front spoiler.One other possibility is that you may have to change the bumper behind the cover.The rear g efx is part of the bumper cover,aside from the parts behind the wheels, on 91-92Zs.
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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 02:36 PM
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Now you know why I never put GFX on my '86 SC. I couild have but I believe the '91 & '92 style will not fit without lot's of changing. When I get ready I'll just buy a '91/'92 car. It's like the people that want T Tops cut into hardtop RS's. Too. too much trouble. Just buy a T Top car.

Anyway one of the all time experts on the subject of front nose pieces is Denny on the No Indiana/So Chicago board. Personal mail him at LFN AT U. At his Thirdgen ranch(I am not kidding) he has at least 25 different noses. All the colors, years and styles along with the complete GFX's to match. If it can be done he would know. He buys,sells, parts thirdgens for a living. You can get all the answers you need right there. Good luck.
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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 07:06 PM
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the 82-84 noses are about 1-2" shorter....and the headlight pockets aren't as deep or as slanted....

hehe...now figure this one out....a SC nose w/GFX???
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