my doors are starting to sag.......

i was told that i could go about this using a bushing kit rather than having to redo pins and brackets, etc.

anyone done this? what bushing set did you get. i was told gm makes a kit that i can pick up for cheap. although i do have to take the doors off; i don't have to mess with the brackets?

does this sound legit to you?

 

This link may be helpfull;

http://www.3rdgensolutions.com/info.html

Thanx,ANDYZ28

 

i think this info will work on camaros: http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...2hpp_fristaid/

best one about sagging doors i've found yet

 

ANDYZ28's website is very helpful and informative....

 

I wrote to High Performance Pontiac Magazine concerning this article. I pointed out that it contained some significant errors.

Troy Avent, The author told me that, "these will be addressed in the March 2003 issue of the magazine".

Thanx,ANDYZ28

 

what errors did you find? i'm not a subscriber (unfortunately) & they might not correct their site, although their other stuff is usually pretty good

 

looks like Ill be ordering one of those kits seeing as how I took it to a friend who has a body shop and he rigged it up and its not failing on me, I knew it would and so did he. mine is so bad it scraped my GFX up and now they have to be fixed to. I was just curios as to how well they hold up and if they need lubed or anything.

 

I stock AndyZ28's door hinge repair kits. We discussed the article and the errors in some detail. Here is one of the errors Andy mentioned to me: From HPP's article: "Here is our original hinge and the hinge kit. The long pin (note the retaining clip toward the top) and two bushings are for the bottom hinge (pictured). The shorter pins and the other two bushings are for the upper hinge. Our upper hinge was in good shape, so we left it alone." The two small pins and bushings they refer to as being for the upper hinge are incorrect. Andy told me these are actually the pins for the lower hinge that the spring loaded detent wheel uses. If HPP HAD replaced their upper hinge pins (not that they admit that they didn't replace the upper hinge pins) tey would have realized their error. There are only 2 methods to repair the hinges. GM's method involves drilling oout the rivets that hold the hinges in place and bolting new hinges onto both the door and door frame. This also requires you to un-wire the door and remove it entirely. This is a 4-5 hour job.

With Andy's kits you support the door in-place (pulling it back only about 2" or so to clear the holes to sand them to fit the new bushings) while replacing the bushings & pins, no un-wiring req'd. The time to install his kit is less than half what the GM method requires. His kits also have superior hardened 4140 CNC machined bushing and phosphor bronze bushings. Also you can get a greasable kit, so you are able to force-feed grease from the inside-out.

Lon

 

"GM's method involves drilling oout the rivets that hold the hinges in place and bolting new hinges onto both the door and door frame. "

The original hinges are welded onto the door from inside the door.

Thanx, andyZ28

 

Sorry, I knew that. I meant drilling out the spotwelds, not rivets.

Lon

 

The greaseable ones that we offer, can be lubicated with an ordinary greasegun. So I am quessing they will probably outlast the rest of the (a) car.

Thanx, andyZ28