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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 08:46 AM
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Poor mans white gauges???

Hey guys, that guide to "do it ur self white gauges" tech article is down for some reason, I want to put white gauges for my car, I got special paper for my printer and its glossy and would look very nice if I do it now. But can someone post or tell me where to get them. I need them in Km/h please.

And how accurate are they?
does it change anything?
do u put them over the black ones?
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 09:36 AM
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I think I read somewhere that that site is down because that guy is selling them now, not sure if thats true though.

Anyways dont worry, if you still want to do it cheep, its not to hard to do. Take your dash apart(you would have to do all this stuff to stick the faces on any ways so its not a big deal). Take the guages all out of the cluster. Find a good flat bed scanner. Lay the gauges face down on the scanner and scan them in at the highest quality BMP or JEPG as can get. Then use the Paint progrgam to edit them so they look the way you want. This will let you change the colors, fonts, or anything else you want too.

Hope that helps.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 05:57 PM
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what an ***
helping his fellow 3rd genners my a$$..
its all money these days.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by PonyKiller87
I think I read somewhere that that site is down because that guy is selling them now, not sure if thats true though.
he better not be selling the templates i made from the 92 gauges i had and contributed to the collection for that site.. un4givin89 is the person owns? the site..


-mike (loomdog)

edit - davecamaro, check ur pms

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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 08:57 AM
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I saw someone selling them on E-bay, and they sold for over $50! Kinda pricey for paper!
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 10:51 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
AHEM!!!, I do say, if he is selling them then I will sue his butt, because they are my property, I made them they are my work for the 86-92 Firebird templates...

John
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 11:10 AM
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I may be wrong about him selling the faces, so some one might want to confirm that before everyone starts getting bent out of shape.

P.S. I downloaded the all the files from that tech article before it went down so if someone wants them let me know, I just found them last night.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 12:26 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
I am not bent out of shape yet... sorry to come off that way

John
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 08:44 AM
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hey john, if u find out anything bout this, please let me know..
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 08:18 PM
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Well I cant seem to find the gauges anywhere!

Im sure people have them saved.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 07:00 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...874024844&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...874024879&rd=1
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 01:43 AM
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davecamaro, u have mail..
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 07:51 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Well... unfortunately that appears to be my work, but it was modified, I probably have no recourse...

John...
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Old Dec 21, 2002 | 05:31 PM
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i got mine off ebay just search for the white gauge overlays for the 82-92 camaro and there should be an auction that ends in like 5 days from durange designs. you can get them in a variety of speeds and km/h or mph. i got mine for 21 bucks including shipping. dont have pics of them yet though
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Old Dec 21, 2002 | 07:07 PM
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The duranged design guy was on chevytalk.com awhile back and made a lot of enemy's there. He would post a question then log in under another name, and answer his post making it sound like he walked on water with the stuff he was selling. The moderator caught him because of his IP address. From what I remember he is banned from CT.

Anyway, just some info for you all to chew on.
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Old Dec 21, 2002 | 09:41 PM
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well just so long as the dude sends me my overlays and doesnt try to jerk me around then i have no probs with him. but just cause im curious what kinds of questions did he ask/answer?
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 10:30 PM
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John-
Are you interested in selling them? Does the light shine through the numbers at night?
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
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Originally posted by wlsmoku
John-
Are you interested in selling them? Does the light shine through the numbers at night?
I imagine it would depend on how you use them...

I made plexiglas backers for mine so the whole gage would light up... I have considered using some electro Lumiinescent screen to use as a backer, that would make the color more even over the whole gage.

I Have considered making a reverse of the top side so that only the color shine through, but just thought

Basically I just have a piece of yellow paper, which happens to be the exact color of my car... thought it was more unique than white... it looks absolutely fantastic, and at the TA Nationals everyone thought they were great...

I can post some pix if you like...

John
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by okfoz
I imagine it would depend on how you use them...

I made plexiglas backers for mine so the whole gage would light up... I have considered using some electro Lumiinescent screen to use as a backer, that would make the color more even over the whole gage.

I Have considered making a reverse of the top side so that only the color shine through, but just thought

Basically I just have a piece of yellow paper, which happens to be the exact color of my car... thought it was more unique than white... it looks absolutely fantastic, and at the TA Nationals everyone thought they were great...

I can post some pix if you like...

John
Please do.
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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Want to know why its down?

I MADE THESE, and the comments in this thread is why I TOOK DOWN THE ARTICLE.

I didn't mind helping people at first, then I see them being sold on ebay, and when I didn't have the template you wanted, you send me hate mail calling me names and stuff.

GO HUMP YOURSELF

I have every right not to ever post the site again. I was actually re-writting it and moving it to the new server but after this post, you can continue to figure it out on your damn own.
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 03:36 PM
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Oh yes i don't sell them and I never will, I offered the tech with a collection of 50+ templates for the gauges in a zip file for everyone to use.

I don't sell this, I made it for everyone. Maybe I will post it again, but it will be on the tech section of www.hr3rdgen.org
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 03:56 PM
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pennyless-I have your collection of templates and I didn't email you and ask you to change anything. I'm greatful for all the work that went into these. I guess I should have emailed and said thanks, but didn't think anything about it until now. So, I'm saying thanks now.

I guess this hit home because I just spend a lot of time copying some old instructional videos and some videos we took of some racing events and sent them out to people. Not a one of them even said thanks for the time and money it cost me to buy the tapes, and then ship them out by UPS. I don't even know if they watched them or threw them into the trash.

So, I understand where you are coming from and again I want to say thanks.

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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 12:03 AM
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I made that tech guide when I had my old RS, it was the first mod I did to that car.

I wrote it and complied the ZIP file of templates for other people to use it.

But the e-mails that were coming in my inbox of the negative type far out wiegthed the postive.

It was always, I broke my needle, its your fualt you didnt' warn me, or I can't find my gauge, do you have it, why didn't you include it, wtf is up with that.....

JUST A BUNCH OF HORSE **** THAT GOT ANNOYING. So when I was redoing my website last month I said **** it, and deleted the folder with that tech guide in it.
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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pennyless-I really appriciate your guide, i used it this summer. im really greatful for the work you put in to it. I looked at that other guide to white face guages and i was lost before the second sentence. I should have emailed you and thanked you for your guide, i didnt even think about it. I diden't use one of your exact templates, i changed them up a little. But i just wanted to let you know how much i really appriciated you help, they look really great.
Thanks
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 01:36 AM
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Pennyless please post this agian man
we need your help, its guys like you who give us young guys a change to do some minor detailing modding that dosent cost us anything but ink and paper.
my hats off to you..
good thing ur not selling them either!
that would be totally crap!
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 10:12 PM
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Pennyless,

I to would like to say thanks for all the work that you did and I also think that its BS when people either dont thank you for your work or complain when they mess up or have to do more work.

Earlier in the post I said that I though I read you were selling them, I guess I was very wrongly informed. Sorry, Exacly why I said that it should be confirmed before the post got out of hand. More so I think its really crappy that some guy is able to get away with doctoring yours and John's work and then selling it. I think it would be good to make sure that the word gets out that these were more or less ripped off and that they shouldnt be bought on ebay.

Once again thanks for the time you spent on the overlays, and sorry for those people that didnt apperciate it as much as I did.

Kevin.
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 03:05 AM
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I bought mine off of ebay for $48.00 + $385 for shipping, from someone who calls himself c.prompt At first I was dissapointed, becasue the redline wasn't high enough. Then he sent me one with the correct red line, so I thought that I was happy. Not until I had already ripped my stock gauges off, did I realize that the were too small to fit properly. After that experience, I just decided that I would rather buy manufacturd white overlays. That, and at night, the lights (even though they are painted) still come through too bright, and it just looks funny at night..... Either make your own, so you can be mad at yourself, or get the right ones that aren't photo paper!

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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 10:25 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Yellow Gages In the Day...
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
and at night, this is with a piece of .060" or .040" plexiglas behind the gages instead of the original gage...
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 10:28 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
pennyless,
Can you do me a favor and post just the Bottom Half of the Tachometer for me, there was something on the ones on e-bay that interests me...

thanks....

John
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Old Dec 27, 2002 | 01:47 AM
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Even if I would have know before that you guys were already making them here, I would have never even looked on ebay for them. And today, while I was out working on my car, I noticed that I didn't use enough glue when I put them on. and now I cam see little areas that are "bubbling" up. I've got a photo printer here, and would like to redo mine. Could anyone here (since I don't have a scanner) send me the scanned overlays that I need, so that I can make them the way that I'd like it in an editing program. And this time I can make sure that I use enough glue! Thanks if anyone helps me out with this. And just to let everyone here know, anything that doesn't cost me from here, I'd never try to sell elsewhere. Although I do have some friends here with some camaros, and I'd help them make some for their cars. you know...



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