how do you think transam tail lights, the whole rear, would look ona camaro? i cracked my spoiler in the middle and broke up most of my light covers, my rear bumper is still in one piece, but do you think i should put a gullwing pedestal mount spoiler and the whole rear end off a thirdgen trans am onto my 84 berlinetta?
also, im gonna need some instructions on removing the bumper andsheetmetal off the back of my car and switching it with a transam's

 

Prolly would look something like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2419715721

 

not too bad. i think i'll do it... all depends on the price

 

if you really want the TA tail lights then you would be better off finding a decent firebird shell and moving the camaro front clip to the bird body, you could also exchange the whole interior if the bird doesn't have a good one. it'd be different if the tail ends were removable (where the lights mount).

 

the car i want to get it off of is totaled in front of the doors. you cant take off the back of a car and put it on another? just the body, not the chassis. i was thinking i might have to get the bodyt welded on and then sand it flat and then paint it because im painting my car black sometime anyway(i have $0 right now but im gonna get some somehow) =)

 

you have to remember that our cars are uni-bodys which means that the shell is part of the structure of the car, they don't just come apart. I think your getting ALOT more work than you realize by doing it that way. if the bird your looking at just has the front sheet metal bent and no frame damage then just move all the sheet metal from the camaro to the bird, along with the motor,tranny,radiator,wheels,steering gear,seats,console,dash,---------I think you get the picture. too much work just to have bird tailights (IMHO).

 

I guess you could just change the rear quarter panels and bumper cover and be done with it.

 

I guess you could just change the rear quarter panels and bumper cover and be done with it.

thats what i meant to be doing. how hard would this be?

 

not as hard as everyone thought. post a picture of your current camero. if the front is the same style as the one from ebay forget it, that looks so ugly

 

ithis is before the wreck, i nearly had to destroy the pic to get it to meet the qualifications... i overdid it i guess, but ill send another aftr this

 

better this time, because i used a little photoshop to cut it out earlier

 

You don't think changing the rear quarter panels would be hard? If you don't have any body experience I wouldn't touch it. I wouldn't spend all the time doing that just for some different taillights anyways. Especially just switching to firebird lights.

 

im changing it because i broke alot of my rear end. im gonna have to replace alot of it anyway, the spoiler, the lights, and i wouldnt mind new quarter panels cuz i dont wanna pull all the dents. i have plenty of time for working on my car, and i like working on it, i just need to know how to take this stuff off. can anyone giveme some instrucctions on it or a howto doc?

 

or should i look around for a decent camaro rear end at junkyards..... it wil be a while either way.. i just thought the spoiler would look nice, but that ebay car is ugly.... my spoilers not too bad off.. i could fix it with sandpaper and bondo without it being noticable that it had been in a wreck

 

I don't think your seeing the whole picture, everything behind the front fenders is welded together (except the doors and hatch), this means that its not just unbolting the rear quarters and bolting on new ones, they will have to be cut of the shell with a torch or saw or grinder and then the new one welded back in. do yourself a favor and take a long CAREFULL look at the back of the car, even remove some of the interior panels in the back of the car and look around in there with a flashlight, then crawl under the car and look to see how the body is put together. I'm not saying it can't be done, but, there is a HUGE amount of cutting and welding and filling and grinding and sanding that needs to be done to replace rear quarters. if you have the time,experiance,tools and place to do it then go for it, but it seems like a massive amount of work "JUST FOR LIGHTS".

 

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Take a look at this thread and tell me that this looks easy or fun for that matter. Especially if you don't know what your doing to begin with.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...=quarter+panel

 

ok and i always thought bondo was for people that couldnt find the right parts... lol i see why its so tough..... ill just use bondo for the left rear quarter panel... anyone know where to get basically the entire tail light setup for a berlinetta? just send some links and prices, not ebay because im broke right now.
i got the rear fixed at abra once and they bought some..... this time i pretty much destroyed all the light covers.. Abra gave me crappy paint, but i cant do anything about it once i found out, lol.

im gonna have to ask about tha flex agent when i paint my car.. which will be awhile. i want my paint on the plastic parts like the bumper and nose to bend just as much as the parts do, if possible

 

You know.. it's not really that complex as you state but, I'll agree with one thing. If you have none or limited body work, drilling, welding, the list goes on exp.... forget it.
Even through a professional body shop.. the collision guide estimated time for replacing (R&R) a rear ¼ panel is 12 hours.

 

and how much do body shops get per hour?

 

the shop i work at charges $45 bucks an hour for labor. And 12 hours to change a fender is insane. To change the fender, do the body work, block it off, and paint it is prob a total of 4-6 hours.

 

Wow Franken-F-body

 

He didn't say a fender, he said the rear quarter panel. Switching out a fender and cutting off a quarter panel and welding on a new one are 2 completely different things.

How much shops charge just depends on where they are located. On average I think it runs about $45 or so for regular work and about $60 an hour for frame pulling.