My headliner is in pretty good condition, except for the driver side... the fabric has begun to seperate... and it sags far enough to touch my head. Any ideas on how to fix this without replacing the headliner? Thanks in advance!

 

theres some kind of glue out that you can get for that..dont know the name of it...check auto zone or a parts store for it

 

I had the same problem after I redid my headliner because the glue I had used wasn't strong wnough for the application. I redid it a second time using 3M Super 77 adhesive. It worked better than anything else I've tried, others I've talked to swear by this as well. From the sounds of it though, you might have to take down your headliner to get at the part that needs to be glued. You way just want to redo it or replace it with a new ABS headliner. Search this topic in the archives and you'll find plenty of info.

 

Beware of the glue. The headliner was sagging a little in my old car and I tried it, very bad results. If the whole material of the headliner is seperating you should be ok, and could use this. If its just the bottom cloth, (which is what usually happens) you gotta get a new one. Just the cloth was seperating in mine and didnt realize it and was like headliner glue ok. So then I just had a saggy headliner with glue buildup on the inside (the stuff soaked through and dried). You can also buy headliner material for not too much and do it yourself if you want, you just gotta cut it and attatch and glue it and everything. You can buy it from Year One, I think they sell it in 5 foot sections or something, I had priced it and then I totalled my car I think it was like $20 for enough material (hehe already had the glue)

 

Sagging headliners are usually caused by the foam backing falling apart. Once that happens, the only fix is to remove the old material, clean the backing board, and glue on new material. It is easy to tell if that is your problem. Just push up on the sagging material with a finger and see if you can feel a layer of soft foam behind the material. If you just feel the hard board, then you will need to replace the headliner. I once tried to reglue a sagging headliner that had this problem w/o replacing the material, and a week later it was down again. Not to mention that it looked horrible after I glued it.

3M makes a headliner specific spray on glue, #8088 if memory serves me. General Purpose glues generally do not work as well since they can break down in the heat. The headliner material, as grngryoutmyway said, is available from places like Year One. You may also get it a little cheaper, and quicker, from a local fabric store such as JoAnn Fabrics if there is one in your area. Thats where I got mine when I redid my headliner.

Try a search and you will find many postings that tell you specifics on how to recover the headliner. Not too difficult, just takes a little time and patience.

 

wilyk9 is 100% correct. I don't know why people keep suggesting Super 77 for headliners, because IT DOESN'T WORK! Unless you live way up north where it never gets hot.

Read more here

 

Once the headliner starts to sag, its history. You can try fixing it, but it will need to be replaced. Remenber these cars are starting to show there age on soft trim parts. I had mine done by a Pro
and now it looks like a stock new factory installation.

 

hey, i was going to redo my headliner too but i have the plastic replacement headliner. Anyway I looked up the 3m adhesive by the part number wilyk9 gave and found this...

http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/e...esolutions_3_0

 

That's the good stuff, go ahead and use it. You can also use Fast Tack Trim Adhesive.

 

Super 77 does work if you use it right... i have been redoing interiors and working with materials for awhile, and i have never had a problem with it. I do know, if you use too much, it will actually reverse its effectiveness, become saturated, and then it will not work. Best way to work with super 77, is spray your surface, wait a minute or so, then pat it down and that actually gets it really sticky, and that has worked for me. I have done headliners before with it, including my own, still looks mint. And just in case someone says i live up north and thats why, it got up to 100 this summer around here

jUST MY .02 for anyone trying this...

 

Good, my memory served me well that time.
When you click on the above link, also click on the "3M™ General Trim Adhesive 08088 - Technical Definitions (PDF 22.9 K)" link, and you will find the following in the pdf doc:

Description
A clear, fast drying, high strength, 71% VOC aerosol adhesive. 3M™ General Trim Adhesive builds
strength rapidly and provides a good heat resistant bond. 3M™ General Trim Adhesive is designed to bond
a wide variety of automotive materials including carpeting, kick pads, insulation, foam, lightweight headliner,
fabric, plastics, rubber and adequately supported flexible vinyl to metal. Not for use on Styrofoam or
styrene bead board.

3M also makes another product for heavyweight headliners, can't remember the pn, but I did not think that was necessary for our lightweight foam/cloth material.

 

the other stuff 3m makes for the heavier headliners is the super trim adhesive and the part number is 08090...a few stores around here stopped carrying the 08088

 

oh

 

Anybody try this?

 

Just spend 60 bucks on a new headliner and you will not have to keep messing with it for 10 more years. Or upgrade to an ABS board and you will not regreat it.

 

Tacks

 

Once. Don't use it!

 

Thats EXACTALLY what I used when I did mine that stuff works great and it gets pretty damn hot in missouri in the summer

 

Fiberglass!!! I'll have picts of mine after the weekend