GearDrive63

I know its not a uncommon thing, but i never gave it any thought untill today. I just bought some and am picking them up on sunday. my question is this:
1.) are both the front and back both the same bolt pattern as the 3rd gen?

2.) Are they significantly more comfertable than the 3rd gen seats??

3.) all things considered; are they worth the hastle of buying and installing?

7plagues

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From what i hear its so simple its not even funny... but on the comfortable side i have no clue... i am kickin the idea around to do it myself. Where did u get urs?

cg91ta

I swapped my stock manual cloth seats for 4th gen power everything leather, and I do NOT regret it.

Bolt holes are identical on the seats and so they fit perfectly, including all of the seat belt hardware.

aziroc

1. yes
2. yes
3. its up to you.. but imo they r worth it.

90RS305

I think you'll get a lot more in-depth info on this forum...

Formula4Speed

Bolt patterns are the same, mine are firmer than my 3rd gen seats and more supportive around turns and its not a hassle really. You can do it in half in hour if you have some basic tools, 13mm wrench and socket and a torx set for your ratchet and you'll be amazed how easy it is and how much nicer the interior looks with fresh seats.

Deemax

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Much more comfortable, not much of a hassle, and everything bolts right in...unless you had the split rear seat backs, in which case you have to cut off the pivot that sits on top of the trans hump between the seats. But even that's easy enough to do...

TFM4th

Diddo, firmer deffinatly... mine are from a 4thgen Camaro and put them in my firebird
i didnt get leather, its cloth
30 minutes... it took me 15

looks awsome 2

Sickness91Z28

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I've been thinking about doing the same thing...my drivers seat is power...if I get a seat of 4th gen seats....how would I hook them so the power works? How did you do it? I'd LOVE to get a set of the Trans Am Graphite Leather Seats

White91GTA

I just got a set of 4th Gen Leather seats yesterday. The driver seat is power and is causing me a few problems. The old driver seat that i pulled out was a manual seat and not power. My question is, how do i go about hooking the seat up so that the power works and how do i hook up the lumbar support and the other power accessory on the seat...i'm not sure what it is called?

NEEDforSPEED

:hail: 4thgen seats....
ya st8 bolt in.... a 3 year old could do it ....



the 4thgens are more frem then the 3rdgens....
i dont regreat swaping them.....

BurninRed89

i went to the junkyard this past weekend and w/ my bro and friend and me and my bro both found two front seats from 4th gens, we came home, cleaned them up and put them roight in, took all of 30 min, not hard at all, and they are deff better, i dont slide around at all when i take corners fast and they are much more ocmfortable, the only hassle was trying to fit the 4 front seats, me, my bro and my friend in my camaro on the way home from the junkyard, lol

BurninRed89

heres a pic of my new seats

Diabolical

unless you're a complete stock **** or you don't have a $1 to your name, there's no reason why anyone shouldn't swap in 4th gen seats. they are far more comfortable, supportive, they look better, they are pretty cheap and easy to find, and they take as long as it takes to remove 10 nuts and 2 bolts, swap seats, and replace those 10 nuts and 2 bolts. if you have split back seats, you can still leave that center pivot bar and not really even notice it.

mike88form350

4th gen seats to 3rd gen so easy my dog could do it. if you have a split rear seat just remove the pivot and every thing fits perfect. no modification at all. for a power seat all the motor needs is power from the fuse pannel and a ground it does the rest. holy **** you even have access to a perfect ground!...the seat bolts!

Z28GEN3

I plan on making seat swap before i ever drive the car, as they go back a few more inches then my stock seats Now just to find some red cloth seats, red leather just looks tacky, dont even know if it was ever made

grngryoutmyway

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As far as I know 4th gen seats only came in black, tan, grey, and white on some special edition cars.. you probably have to get them custom upolstered if you want red

And 4th gen seats are alot more comfy, I didnt like the power track cause it sits to high.. it adds a good 3 inches or so to the bottom of the seat so I just used the 3rd gen non power tracks

Charlie's87

Red (and black) 4th gen seats:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...479598969&rd=1

Dante93GTZ

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I cut the adapter off my old seats and just added it to the new seats and plugged it in. Voila... easy.

Pro

Changing out the seats is so easy that I've already done it when I really havnt yet.

FLYNLOW92rs

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They are worth it and IMO the firebird ones look better.....

Outlaw87

Yeah 4th gen seats look great in 3rd gens and it sounds like they are easy to install... and from what ive heard they are much more supportive and comfortable.

89V6FBIRD

They feel good on my butt...

White91GTA

you ain't the only one...ride is way better with the 4th gen seats than it ever was with the stock seats

Pro

Yall have never felt comfort until you sit in the old 80s model Mercedes seats. Full of springs.

mike graycar

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got mine yesterday, Thanks 86irocnj, On the rears, they have no studs on the bottom to bolt to the body of the car. Am I missing something?

shapeshifter

im thinking about going to the local yard and snagging some. about how much have you all paid for yours?

Charlie's87

You should be able to take the old hardware off your current seat back and put on the new one, just takes a T30 driver to pull out the screws.

Charlie's87

Mint black leather seats sell for about 750-900 dollars on ebay, cloth around 400-500. If you can find em in a wrecking yard you can probably expect to pay a couple hundred less...... unless the yard in your area sells on ebay If you can do some upholstery repair you can get a useable set for a lot cheaper.

White91GTA

i got mint tan leather seats out of a 99 T/A from a guy in my club and paid 400 for the set.

DoBeR

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Im looking at buying a set of 4th gen seats but they dont include the seat tracks. Will they bolt right upto my 3rd gen seat tracks or no?

White91GTA

yes....they are a direct bolt in so everything works.

Oddball

I'm buying a set of cloth non-power 4thgen T/A seats for $150.

Dark Mavis

Holy dead thread, Batman!

Oddball

Holy I need to post to avoid the "you haven't posted in a few weeks" message from the new boardhosts :-)

And I'm doing the seat swap and wanted to make sure it would fit into my split seat.

LUVmy92

I love mine.

Slepewesel

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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes

91 Z with seats from a 96 bird, newly recovered with ebony leahter covers from a 00 Trans Am ...

xlwhellraiser

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I got my fourth gen camaro SS charcoal leather power seats for 50 (both). You just have to be patient, and they will show up at the yard.


To hook up your power seat all you need to do is hook the orange wire to power, and ground the black wire that comes from the seats harness. You can use the power from the light in the center console storage compartment. Just T into the power wire. It takes about 10 mins. to do.

All in all fourth gen seats are nicer, although a bit more firm than the stock ones. You'll like them!

Laters.