T top bag and wheel offset questions
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Car: 87 GTA
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T top bag and wheel offset questions
Does any one know of a source for T top bags? I have an 87 GTA that I just bought which did not have one. I also noticed that the diamond wheels appear to have different offsets. The front wheels have a wider lip. I imagine that this means that I can not rotate them to the rear.
Another strange thing is that the car has rear drum brakes. Everything I have read says that GTAs came with 4 wheel discs.
Another strange thing is that the car has rear drum brakes. Everything I have read says that GTAs came with 4 wheel discs.
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My brother has bought t-top bags off E-bay also.
And a buddy of mine, had a car just like yours, 305 TPI, auto, rear drum brakes, on an 87 GTA. We both understood a GTA to come standard with the 350 (5.7), and rear disc brakes. The only thing I could think of, was that those items were a credit delete option.
But why?? Save some cash on a car that looks the same to most other people?!? Who knows, wouldn't have been my decision, though!
And a buddy of mine, had a car just like yours, 305 TPI, auto, rear drum brakes, on an 87 GTA. We both understood a GTA to come standard with the 350 (5.7), and rear disc brakes. The only thing I could think of, was that those items were a credit delete option.
But why?? Save some cash on a car that looks the same to most other people?!? Who knows, wouldn't have been my decision, though!
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GTA's weren't "guarenteed" 5.7 L v8's either. However, it is considered more "uncommon" for them to be missing one. 4-wheel disc was probably an option for T/A and GTA alike. AS i recall, the GTA option was more comfort than it was performance. Performance would be a WS6 formula.
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I should start selling stuff off of ebay again soon & when I do I will make sure I will put T-top bags on. But when I do they normally run $30-$40
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Originally posted by 85f-bird
AS i recall, the GTA option was more comfort than it was performance. Performance would be a WS6 formula.
AS i recall, the GTA option was more comfort than it was performance. Performance would be a WS6 formula.
7t1goat, the rear wheels have a 16MM offset. You are correct, you can not rotate the rears to the front, or the other way around. You can rotate side to side, unless, like the last owner of my car you put on directional tires.
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Thanks for all the feedback. I have read that the 305 was put in T top GTAs because the engineers thought that the 350's torque would twist a car without a solid roof.
On my car, it seems odd that the wheels that appear wider are on the front, but I guess that's the way it's got to be.
On my car, it seems odd that the wheels that appear wider are on the front, but I guess that's the way it's got to be.
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Ok that comment about the 350 Cars is wrong they put 350s in the Camaros & Firebirds with ts up until 1991. ( or it may have been 1990) I have a Irocz with a L98 Engine & t-tops. Its an 87.
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In 87 you supposedly couldn't get t-tops with a 350, but sometime later in the year, GM allowed it. Starting in 88 you could. Then 91 and 92 you couldn't.
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Re: T top bag and wheel offset questions
Originally posted by 7t1goat
Another strange thing is that the car has rear drum brakes. Everything I have read says that GTAs came with 4 wheel discs.
Another strange thing is that the car has rear drum brakes. Everything I have read says that GTAs came with 4 wheel discs.
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Originally posted by 87GTA Runner
In 87 you supposedly couldn't get t-tops with a 350, but sometime later in the year, GM allowed it. Starting in 88 you could. Then 91 and 92 you couldn't.
In 87 you supposedly couldn't get t-tops with a 350, but sometime later in the year, GM allowed it. Starting in 88 you could. Then 91 and 92 you couldn't.
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Originally posted by 7t1goat
On my car, it seems odd that the wheels that appear wider are on the front, but I guess that's the way it's got to be.
On my car, it seems odd that the wheels that appear wider are on the front, but I guess that's the way it's got to be.
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Originally posted by Goumba T
Its not wider, it just has a deeper dish to it.
Its not wider, it just has a deeper dish to it.
Gives it a nicer stance since the back wheels aren't tucked in as much,

you can see the offset better in the picture of the Trans Am,
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Thanks again for all the responses. I have a question regarding the headrests on my GTA. They are the kind that extend forward with a round **** on each side. The driver's headrest is stuck and does not go forward. The passenger's headrest works fine. I don't see how to remove them to switch them and can not seem to free the stuck one so it will go forward. Any ideas?
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Re: T top bag and wheel offset questions
Originally posted by 7t1goat
Does any one know of a source for T top bags? I have an 87 GTA that I just bought which did not have one. I also noticed that the diamond wheels appear to have different offsets. The front wheels have a wider lip. I imagine that this means that I can not rotate them to the rear.
Another strange thing is that the car has rear drum brakes. Everything I have read says that GTAs came with 4 wheel discs.
Does any one know of a source for T top bags? I have an 87 GTA that I just bought which did not have one. I also noticed that the diamond wheels appear to have different offsets. The front wheels have a wider lip. I imagine that this means that I can not rotate them to the rear.
Another strange thing is that the car has rear drum brakes. Everything I have read says that GTAs came with 4 wheel discs.
I ordered a zippered logo bag from him and it's mint except for the vinyl straps - the ends are faded. Otherwise, it's a perfect bag. $70 shipped. You could get an eBay bag, but why take chances?
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Car: 87 Irocz, 95 Z28, 71 Z28 /RS
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Originally posted by 87GTA Runner
In 87 you supposedly couldn't get t-tops with a 350, but sometime later in the year, GM allowed it. Starting in 88 you could. Then 91 and 92 you couldn't.
In 87 you supposedly couldn't get t-tops with a 350, but sometime later in the year, GM allowed it. Starting in 88 you could. Then 91 and 92 you couldn't.
once again I ask In all Fbodys or just the GTAs & Trans Ams?
Damn I am so tired of being Ignored.
I can't answer intelligently, but my reading on the boards says that the Camaro could not be had with CC1 and L98 in '91 and '92. The Firebird, however, doesn't appear to have had that limitation.
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edit: I think '91 was the 'no CC1 with L98' beginning; the 1990 IROCs could be had with that combination. Mine is an '89 L98 with CC1.
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edit: I think '91 was the 'no CC1 with L98' beginning; the 1990 IROCs could be had with that combination. Mine is an '89 L98 with CC1.
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Originally posted by 89_IROC_98U
I can't answer intelligently, but my reading on the boards says that the Camaro could not be had with CC1 and L98 in '91 and '92. The Firebird, however, doesn't appear to have had that limitation.
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edit: I think '91 was the 'no CC1 with L98' beginning; the 1990 IROCs could be had with that combination. Mine is an '89 L98 with CC1.
I can't answer intelligently, but my reading on the boards says that the Camaro could not be had with CC1 and L98 in '91 and '92. The Firebird, however, doesn't appear to have had that limitation.
- 89_IROC
edit: I think '91 was the 'no CC1 with L98' beginning; the 1990 IROCs could be had with that combination. Mine is an '89 L98 with CC1.
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Originally posted by Zepher
They stick out more. I have had 4 front GTA wheels on my Trans Am as well as 4 front Formula Wheels on my Formula.
Gives it a nicer stance since the back wheels aren't tucked in as much,
They stick out more. I have had 4 front GTA wheels on my Trans Am as well as 4 front Formula Wheels on my Formula.
Gives it a nicer stance since the back wheels aren't tucked in as much,
do your homework people! Just because 1 person said it does not make it so. The 350 with ttops was an option and was VERY available in 87. krazzycowgirl, this is info you already know since you have the car!
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Originally posted by scottmoyer
do your homework people! Just because 1 person said it does not make it so. The 350 with ttops was an option and was VERY available in 87. krazzycowgirl, this is info you already know since you have the car!
do your homework people! Just because 1 person said it does not make it so. The 350 with ttops was an option and was VERY available in 87. krazzycowgirl, this is info you already know since you have the car!
I am still having problems with people trying to tell me my car is not stock from the factory.
Heck went to go buy belts for it & the Auto store Told me straight out that I have Serp. Belts in my car & NOT V-Belts.
. Proved them wrong.
By taking the car in & pics of other ones. Thread
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