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Heck I automatically though there was a Weiand in there but the idiot just put a high rise in there. If your going to cut a hold in your hood, why not at least do it right. Whoever said it was right, if it was a supercharger there would be that huge belt and pully in the front. I dont understand, he even has a dual carb setup and isnt even pulling 350.
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I think a picture of the rear and right side is more important than one of the rear seats. Maybe one of the car with the hood down. The guy needs to learn how to sell stuff.
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Fake blower? What the heck are you guys talking about? How can it be a fake blower? There isn't anything fake on that. There is no blower, fake or otherwise on that. It's just a tunnel setup. It's rather obtrusive and gaudy but it's not fake.
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Originally posted by iansane
Fake blower? What the heck are you guys talking about? How can it be a fake blower?
Fake blower? What the heck are you guys talking about? How can it be a fake blower?
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Not nessarily fake but when I see that type of induction sticking out of a hood with a dual carb setup I automatically think supercharger. I just think its gaudy, unless you are pulling some serious power.
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Originally posted by firebirdjosh
Notice how Super_GTA's second setence clarified that instead of being a blower its just a high rise intake.
Notice how Super_GTA's second setence clarified that instead of being a blower its just a high rise intake.
The intake is supposed to look like a blower, there's no denying it. But it is not a blower, hence the fake.
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Calm down a little, I wasnt trying to say anything against it or anything, I was just pointing out that the first thing I thought of when I looked at it was Weiand supercharger. Its alright but I found it kinda pointless to cut a hole in your hood too put a high rise on and still only make under 350 horsepower.
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Those systems were designed to look like a blower when the hood is closed. There is no getting around that. They are thousands of dollars cheaper than a real supercharged blower system. That is why you see these set ups more often than the blower system. They give the effect of the real thing.
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Originally posted by Super_GTA
Those systems were designed to look like a blower when the hood is closed. There is no getting around that. They are thousands of dollars cheaper than a real supercharged blower system. That is why you see these set ups more often than the blower system. They give the effect of the real thing.
Those systems were designed to look like a blower when the hood is closed. There is no getting around that. They are thousands of dollars cheaper than a real supercharged blower system. That is why you see these set ups more often than the blower system. They give the effect of the real thing.
....are....you...dense? It's not designed to look like anything but a tunnel ram. Which is exactly what it is. Hood closed or otherwise all you have to do is glance at it to see if there is a blower on there or if it's a tunnel ram.
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You cant go denying it. THIS SETUP WAS DESIGNED TO GIVE A BLOWER LOOK. You cant beat around the bush and say otherwise. That way, people that dont know better think it is supercharged. Tell me why than, do they make it look similar to the real thing?..........To give it that effect. Period. If you could afford to get the blower you would have plain and simple. Im not trying to **** you off, im just letting you know they were designed for the poorly gifted in mind.
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I'm gonna have to go ahead and chime in my $ .02 here. A tunnel ram intake manifold is a way of making more horsepower over a conventional intake manifold. There usually two ways to go about running this type of manifold. The first is to do as this gentleman has done and cut a hole in his hood and run a nice intake scoop (look closely, this thing was a show car 1st, a drag car second). The other way to run this setup would be to run something like a 4" cowl hood, which IMHO is tackier than what he has here.
Also, I don't think he's trying to fool anybody with this setup. If you've ever actually seen a setup using a blower where the hood has been cut, there is always a small notch that makes the cutout not perfectly square. The reason for this is... survey says... the blower pulley usually protrudes through the opening as well. So it is quite obvious when there is a blower, even with the hood down.
Also, i don't know where some people are getting there #'s, but I haven't heard of any stock ls1 camaro's making 320 hp at the rear wheels. As a matter of fact i'm pretty sure that only the ram air versions were ever rated that high, and that was at the flywheel. you're probably only making 275 or so at the rear wheels. For a car that was built using a 1985 driveline, with no obvious reinforcements (i.e. roll cage, subframe connectors) 320 rwhp is nothing to laugh about. Most of us on this board can only wish our car was making that much power at the flywheel let alone the engine.
Sorry for the rant, but i felt there was way to much disinformation flying around this post
Also, I don't think he's trying to fool anybody with this setup. If you've ever actually seen a setup using a blower where the hood has been cut, there is always a small notch that makes the cutout not perfectly square. The reason for this is... survey says... the blower pulley usually protrudes through the opening as well. So it is quite obvious when there is a blower, even with the hood down.
Also, i don't know where some people are getting there #'s, but I haven't heard of any stock ls1 camaro's making 320 hp at the rear wheels. As a matter of fact i'm pretty sure that only the ram air versions were ever rated that high, and that was at the flywheel. you're probably only making 275 or so at the rear wheels. For a car that was built using a 1985 driveline, with no obvious reinforcements (i.e. roll cage, subframe connectors) 320 rwhp is nothing to laugh about. Most of us on this board can only wish our car was making that much power at the flywheel let alone the engine.
Sorry for the rant, but i felt there was way to much disinformation flying around this post
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But there are many more practical ways to make 320 horsepower other than cutting a big friggin hole in the middle of your hood and sticking that gaudy scoop on. Im just saying its not difficult at all to make 320 horsepower. I still think the main purpose of a high rise is to basically to immitate a supercharger in looks and function. Also, if its nothing about imitating then why didnt they lower it a frickin foot and only have the scoop sticking out and like many people do and it does have a dual carb setup which is always atop a supercharger.
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you people crack me up. When I see that setup I see a tunnel ram with a bug catcher. Now he could have gone with a number of other choices for the top but it's still going to look like a tunnel ram setup. In no way to me does that look like it's trying to pass off as a supercharged car. On another note, I make more power than him and so does a friend that went from a tunnel ram setup to a single carb
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Originally posted by Super_GTA
You cant go denying it. THIS SETUP WAS DESIGNED TO GIVE A BLOWER LOOK.
You cant go denying it. THIS SETUP WAS DESIGNED TO GIVE A BLOWER LOOK.
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Oh my goodness, some of you guys are getting out out control, please dont use the caps. For someone that doesnt know a think about cars they will think thats a supercharger. One of my friends had one of those aftermarket injection systems that barely stuck out of the hood and every week someone thinks its a supercharger.
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Originally posted by Super_GTA
THIS SETUP WAS DESIGNED TO GIVE A BLOWER LOOK.
THIS SETUP WAS DESIGNED TO GIVE A BLOWER LOOK.
If the guy spent 56k cdn on it, why do you think he would've skimped out on the "oooo, aaaaa" facter of a real blower on top? Because for whatever reason he didn't want one. I doubt it was because he was cheap or didn't have money.
It's just from lack of knowledge that people assume it's a blower. Go away.
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AND DAMNIT, I'M GOING TO HIT MY CAPS LOCK TOO!!!!!
AND DAMNIT, I'M GOING TO HIT MY CAPS LOCK TOO!!!!!
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I sat here reading the description and trying to figure out what the hell was going on... it's almost like he just threw random words together.... then I realized... that he's canadian. Maybe that would explain why he's won so many shows with it?
$56000 CDN... thats what like $300 USD?
$56000 CDN... thats what like $300 USD?
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he is going to have a hard time selling that car....i cant see 56k either although i dont know the conversion for it...lets see 1 us dollar is = to 2 bags of canadian peanuts....
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Originally posted by 67 Camaro 88
$56000 CDN... thats what like $300 USD?
$56000 CDN... thats what like $300 USD?
More like $45,000 US
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im just gonna say that the whole thing about a tunnel rams purpose is to get alot of air in at high rpm is right,.
if you look at a stock intake the air/fuel coming from the carb goes down, takes a sharp turn out to the sides of the intake manifold and then another fairly sharp turn down and through into the heads.
with a tunnel ram like that, the air comes through the carb and atomizes the fuel and then goes almost straight down into the heads without going through and major turns or curves, which allows the air to flow better with less restrictions
if you look at a stock intake the air/fuel coming from the carb goes down, takes a sharp turn out to the sides of the intake manifold and then another fairly sharp turn down and through into the heads.
with a tunnel ram like that, the air comes through the carb and atomizes the fuel and then goes almost straight down into the heads without going through and major turns or curves, which allows the air to flow better with less restrictions
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