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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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all that sticking out of the hood for only 320rwhp?
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Its a fake blower. Its just a high rise intake system.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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really? aww damn. ohh well
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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the lack of the drive belt to the blower is a dead giveaway.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Heck I automatically though there was a Weiand in there but the idiot just put a high rise in there. If your going to cut a hold in your hood, why not at least do it right. Whoever said it was right, if it was a supercharger there would be that huge belt and pully in the front. I dont understand, he even has a dual carb setup and isnt even pulling 350.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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I think a picture of the rear and right side is more important than one of the rear seats. Maybe one of the car with the hood down. The guy needs to learn how to sell stuff.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Fake blower? What the heck are you guys talking about? How can it be a fake blower? There isn't anything fake on that. There is no blower, fake or otherwise on that. It's just a tunnel setup. It's rather obtrusive and gaudy but it's not fake.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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Nothing looks meaner than dual quads...except a blower.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by iansane
Fake blower? What the heck are you guys talking about? How can it be a fake blower?
Notice how Super_GTA's second setence clarified that instead of being a blower its just a high rise intake. The intake is supposed to look like a blower, there's no denying it. But it is not a blower, hence the fake. No one said it wasn't functional though. I think its retarded but who cares as long as it makes that guy happy.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Not nessarily fake but when I see that type of induction sticking out of a hood with a dual carb setup I automatically think supercharger. I just think its gaudy, unless you are pulling some serious power.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by firebirdjosh
Notice how Super_GTA's second setence clarified that instead of being a blower its just a high rise intake.
That was exactly my point, it's just a tunnel ram. Not a blower.

The intake is supposed to look like a blower, there's no denying it. But it is not a blower, hence the fake.
What the...? How is a tunnel ram supposed to look like a blower? Is my stealth ram supposed to look like a low blower because it's just a tunnel ram with a plenum on top. (I'm not serious, just trying to make a point here) People just assume it's a blower because it sticks out of the hood and has those huge butterflies on it. Over the years the images of that butterfly style hat has become synonymous with a blower. Like kleenex is synonymous with tissue. Too many people just assume.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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Calm down a little, I wasnt trying to say anything against it or anything, I was just pointing out that the first thing I thought of when I looked at it was Weiand supercharger. Its alright but I found it kinda pointless to cut a hole in your hood too put a high rise on and still only make under 350 horsepower.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Nice car, i just think its sad he has that much invested and only 320 rwhp
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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Those systems were designed to look like a blower when the hood is closed. There is no getting around that. They are thousands of dollars cheaper than a real supercharged blower system. That is why you see these set ups more often than the blower system. They give the effect of the real thing.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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All of that nonesense to get the power of a stock LS1........
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Super_GTA
Those systems were designed to look like a blower when the hood is closed. There is no getting around that. They are thousands of dollars cheaper than a real supercharged blower system. That is why you see these set ups more often than the blower system. They give the effect of the real thing.

....are....you...dense? It's not designed to look like anything but a tunnel ram. Which is exactly what it is. Hood closed or otherwise all you have to do is glance at it to see if there is a blower on there or if it's a tunnel ram.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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You cant go denying it. THIS SETUP WAS DESIGNED TO GIVE A BLOWER LOOK. You cant beat around the bush and say otherwise. That way, people that dont know better think it is supercharged. Tell me why than, do they make it look similar to the real thing?..........To give it that effect. Period. If you could afford to get the blower you would have plain and simple. Im not trying to **** you off, im just letting you know they were designed for the poorly gifted in mind.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 01:07 AM
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I'm gonna have to go ahead and chime in my $ .02 here. A tunnel ram intake manifold is a way of making more horsepower over a conventional intake manifold. There usually two ways to go about running this type of manifold. The first is to do as this gentleman has done and cut a hole in his hood and run a nice intake scoop (look closely, this thing was a show car 1st, a drag car second). The other way to run this setup would be to run something like a 4" cowl hood, which IMHO is tackier than what he has here.

Also, I don't think he's trying to fool anybody with this setup. If you've ever actually seen a setup using a blower where the hood has been cut, there is always a small notch that makes the cutout not perfectly square. The reason for this is... survey says... the blower pulley usually protrudes through the opening as well. So it is quite obvious when there is a blower, even with the hood down.

Also, i don't know where some people are getting there #'s, but I haven't heard of any stock ls1 camaro's making 320 hp at the rear wheels. As a matter of fact i'm pretty sure that only the ram air versions were ever rated that high, and that was at the flywheel. you're probably only making 275 or so at the rear wheels. For a car that was built using a 1985 driveline, with no obvious reinforcements (i.e. roll cage, subframe connectors) 320 rwhp is nothing to laugh about. Most of us on this board can only wish our car was making that much power at the flywheel let alone the engine.

Sorry for the rant, but i felt there was way to much disinformation flying around this post
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 01:48 AM
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But there are many more practical ways to make 320 horsepower other than cutting a big friggin hole in the middle of your hood and sticking that gaudy scoop on. Im just saying its not difficult at all to make 320 horsepower. I still think the main purpose of a high rise is to basically to immitate a supercharger in looks and function. Also, if its nothing about imitating then why didnt they lower it a frickin foot and only have the scoop sticking out and like many people do and it does have a dual carb setup which is always atop a supercharger.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 04:33 AM
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you people crack me up. When I see that setup I see a tunnel ram with a bug catcher. Now he could have gone with a number of other choices for the top but it's still going to look like a tunnel ram setup. In no way to me does that look like it's trying to pass off as a supercharged car. On another note, I make more power than him and so does a friend that went from a tunnel ram setup to a single carb
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by Super_GTA
You cant go denying it. THIS SETUP WAS DESIGNED TO GIVE A BLOWER LOOK.
Have you ever seen a blower? and have you ever seen a tunnel ram? Anyone with half a brain knows exactly what the intake is, the guy is not trying to make it 'look like a blower'. AND DAMNIT, I'M GOING TO HIT MY CAPS LOCK TOO!!!!!
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Oh my goodness, some of you guys are getting out out control, please dont use the caps. For someone that doesnt know a think about cars they will think thats a supercharger. One of my friends had one of those aftermarket injection systems that barely stuck out of the hood and every week someone thinks its a supercharger.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Super_GTA
THIS SETUP WAS DESIGNED TO GIVE A BLOWER LOOK.
There. You confirmed it. You are dense. The tunnel ram was designed (from what I understand) to get lots of air in at high rpm. Not to look like anything else. Okay? It does not look like a blower. You just see the butterflies up top and assume.

If the guy spent 56k cdn on it, why do you think he would've skimped out on the "oooo, aaaaa" facter of a real blower on top? Because for whatever reason he didn't want one. I doubt it was because he was cheap or didn't have money.
It's just from lack of knowledge that people assume it's a blower. Go away.

Originally posted by Dewey316
AND DAMNIT, I'M GOING TO HIT MY CAPS LOCK TOO!!!!!

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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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I sat here reading the description and trying to figure out what the hell was going on... it's almost like he just threw random words together.... then I realized... that he's canadian. Maybe that would explain why he's won so many shows with it?

$56000 CDN... thats what like $300 USD?
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 03:36 AM
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he is going to have a hard time selling that car....i cant see 56k either although i dont know the conversion for it...lets see 1 us dollar is = to 2 bags of canadian peanuts....
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by 67 Camaro 88

$56000 CDN... thats what like $300 USD?

More like $45,000 US ... were coming.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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im just gonna say that the whole thing about a tunnel rams purpose is to get alot of air in at high rpm is right,.

if you look at a stock intake the air/fuel coming from the carb goes down, takes a sharp turn out to the sides of the intake manifold and then another fairly sharp turn down and through into the heads.

with a tunnel ram like that, the air comes through the carb and atomizes the fuel and then goes almost straight down into the heads without going through and major turns or curves, which allows the air to flow better with less restrictions
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