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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Not the usual 4th Gen dash swap question

Does it affect your legroom in anyway?

It would seem like it would take alot of lower leg room out of the car, which is already kind of tight... Just wondering because I'd like to do an LS1 and 4th Gen interior swap into a 3rd gen (not my current car, I was thinking maybe a 90 IROC)
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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i really didnt notice to much of a difference... and i am 6 feet tall so space is kinda tight. nothing i would be worried about
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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I'm 6 foot 3, so space is REALLY tight

I'm worried, lol

Having a manual really hurts on the legroom too I noticed (auto 3rdgens almost feel luxurious, lol), and whatever car it goes into will have a 5 spd, so yeah...
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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anyone have any pics of the swap?
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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hey man whats up, havnt seen you for about a month!

as far as your swap goes.. if you ever sat in a fourth gen, its gonna feel the same.

dont worry, im 6'2" and i know ican fit in them just fine.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:52 AM
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thanks trav

yeah, i've been really busy with my new business this past month

making good money though, so i can't complain

i've been wanting to go to a meet but i hardly ever remember to check the board or even get online at all anymore
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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heres my completed dashswap pic...leg room isnt really lost with the swap. it looks like it would be it really isnt.

Jason
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Fbirdta878787
heres my completed dashswap pic...leg room isnt really lost with the swap. it looks like it would be it really isnt.

Jason
any small things you're not happy with?

does your HVAC all work?
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by Dizturbed One
any small things you're not happy with?

does your HVAC all work?
Yea I dont like the huge gap where the 4th gen pillars met the dash but the thirgen ones dont come close to filling the hole. I need to fab up something to fill the holes. thats really the only thing. Oh and I really cant get my dash pad to fit quite perfect yet...still more cutting to do.

Jason
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by Fbirdta878787
heres my completed dashswap pic...leg room isnt really lost with the swap. it looks like it would be it really isnt.

Jason
are those fourth gen door panels?
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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why yes they are and center console
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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so those door panels fit in our cars?
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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AWESOME swap! I love how the 4th gen interior looks in the 3th gen. I hope to do the same if I ever get around to tearing the entire car down for rewire & paint.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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Awwww hell...you're making me want one even more. Maybe I won't wait until the complete rebuild...maybe in the Spring next year...
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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on the phone w/ my girlfriend, and she's the one who normally rides in the passenger seat....She did mention the leg-room on the pass. side was comprimised by the new dash....on the drivers side, i've never noticed a bit of difference. I've also done several seat swaps, and my sitting position changes w/ each change in the seats.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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How much cutting does the fourth gen dash swap take? I like the third gen dash, but the console is mediocure and I dislike the door panels. I'd like to swap out the door panels at least but I don't want it to look out of place so if need be I'd be willing to replace the dash.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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hey man how did you do your door handles. im agout to tackle mine and was wondering if you have any pic's of how you had to re place them as far as placement.. thanks dizturbed one..

later Chris
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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The door panels actually fit very well. You have to cut off the little j-hooks on the back of th panel first. then I cut the little lip in front of the panel that faces the front of the car. Gives you more clearence.

As far as the handles you just have to go back and down and cut a little room for the handles. no big deal. Then cut the linkage rods to length (make sure they have a 90* bend in them at the end to slip into the pivot point.)

Jaded---You can just swap in the handles and call it good. the panels stick out where it meets the dash on the 4th gen. So when swapped into your third gen where the dash extends out to the door it will hit. Others have gotten around this by cutting the dash pad. WARNING read previous posts before cutting.

Jason
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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hey flamed....when i was swapping my dash in, we mocked up one of the 4th gen door panels to get the placement of the dash as centered as possible....When we mocked it up, we just clipped the door panel to the top of the window sill at the top, and pushed her on down, (getting rid of the clips on the back of course, and then cuttin the extra from the back of the door panel (rear of the panel) to get the door to close...so did you just drill a hole in the frame to get something to screw into? just curious as to your process before i go cuttin up my panels...thanx, urs looks great by the way.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Yea I just drilled what ever hole I needed to screw into. I didnt drill any holes into the door panel itself. I just used all the factory mounting spots and drill the hole into the door its self.

Jason
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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did you cut out the T???
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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if you're talking about TPI383, then id say he did....looks as if its the beginning of a targa top
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by 85f-bird
if you're talking about TPI383, then id say he did....looks as if its the beginning of a targa top
WAS the middle of a TARGA. its a full factory like vert now.
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/CarStuff/92Z/Targatop/





This is NOW. as of a few days ago.. Good shot of the 4thGen Dasy to stay on topic..





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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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chop top.

i love how you cut the top off. not the convertable part, but where it looks like there should be a glass top. how did you do that and keep structual integrity? was the car a t top before or a hard top?
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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^ His car used to be a T-top, than he cut it to a targa, and then again to a full open top

Very nice TPI383
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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as said above it was a T top car.
it has SFC's and a 8point roll bar.

yes it was gona be a traga project. but I had a 91 vert that was totaled I used for all the factory parts to make my Z a full vert with all factory stuff.
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