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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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small headliner bubble: can I save it???

I have an '89 RS that is in beautiful condition on the inside except for one thing---the damn headliner is starting to bubble right behind the visor on the driver's side. It's about 3 inches across and growing. Is there anything I can do to stop it?? If not, does anyone have any idea how much (on average) it would cost to replace it when it's blocking my view of the road. I'm a perfectionist college sudent with no money.

please help! thank you
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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If its fabric, than just go ahead and get some of the 3m headliner stuff. Put it in a syringe, or whatever they use to vaccinate people (my brain farting right now ). Than fill it up with the glue. Stick the needle in the middle of the bubble. Squrit a bit of glue out. Wait for 5 min. Than slowly press the headliner in. That should do it.

Or, if you really want to do it right, take the headliner apart get the 3m headliner spray glue. Get new fabric. Cut and form to headliner. Than glue it on, let it dry for about 15min. Youre done.

Its your choice.
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 11:35 PM
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I'd redo the whole thing. If it's starting to fall it's because the glue is old and the foam is deteriorating. You can try what the above person mentioned, but it wont last long. I had a headliner falling in my old Grand Prix and tried a quick fix with 3M spray. Didn't even last a week and looked like crap.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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Hmm. I keep hearing bad things about 3m, but it has worked great for me. I've redone my doorpanels with vynil and used 3M. Its still holding great. It has been through freezing temperatures to hot temps. No problem.

The trick with 3m is that you have to spray both surfaces and wait for about 5mins. before putting the two surfaces together. I think that would hold. If not there is the extra strenght 3M that would most certainly hold it.

What eles is there that can bond well??
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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I don't think there is anything wrong with 3M, I think that the reason people don't like it is because they don't clean all of the old glue and foam off of the surface and then wonder why it doesn't stick. You must make sure that the headliner board is completely free of any old glue and foam material. If you try to just use the 3M on an already deteriorated headliner, the glue has nothing to stick to except old glue residue and crumbling foam.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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You absolutely have to clean it completely before adhering new material. I also highly recommend Permatex Heavy Duty Headliner and Carpet Adhesive. I tested it against the 3M Super Trim Adhesive and it's much stronger. you could peel away the piece with 3M adhesive up to 24 hrs later but the permatex is so strong after just 2 minutes that the foam will actually tear before separating from what you adhered it to. I sound like a commercial here but that was my experience with redoing my headliner. I dont know if i would've gotten the corners to hold with the 3M stuff
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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i've had the same experience too,what can you use to clean the foam with that won't shred it?
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Stiff scrub brush to get the majority off

I used elmers spray on

Clean the fiberglass purdy good, hose it down once or twice with glue and let it dry, then hose the back of the new fabric and let it dry

Now that youve got a good base on both surfaces, hose the fiberglass a lil at a time as you work from the center out

I used hotglue to stretch the overhanging fabric to the backside and secure

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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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I wanna get an ABS headliner from hawks
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by STOLEN RS
i've had the same experience too,what can you use to clean the foam with that won't shred it?
I used a small nylon bristle brush that I got from the grocery store.. near the mops and other kitchen cleaners. It worked well for that and for scrubbing down interior parts with dishsoap and hot water before dying them.
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