all right im just wondering on your guys oppion on weather i should fix this or maybe i should just save up and buy a new one.... the car has just about no rust and everything about the interior is preaty good exsept the head liner so i dunno if its gonna be worth it or not

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3241/firebird7rd.jpg

 

i think you'll find that every person will vote to fix it... i mean...come on...nobody wants to see it go that big yard in the sky...unless they need some parts from it...

 

looks from herelike you just need a headlight assembly, hood, bumper cover, and psosible bumper support , shouldbt be that bad

 

you can get all the aprts easy and have it all back together in less than a weekend! FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!

 

Id also say fix it..... I fixed alot worse to get my car back on the road.

 

fix it. you're just looking for an excuse to get a second thirdgen. fix the current one, and get you another one

 

hahaha you know that is true but yes im gonna fix it. you think 600 hundred will cover it or will i need more. both of the motors for the lights are shot too though so im preaty sure ill need them too

 

go to a scrap yard and just pull a front end of a car apart. 600 should definatly more then cover that but you do have to paint unless your the luckiest person on earth and find the same color car in the yard... could happen! and if you dont wanna fix it im sure theres tons of people on this board that will take it off your hands!

 

ive been looking all over and when ever a junk yard has a firebird its allways the same problem as mine.....front endis smashed and if its not its the wrong year. i was wondering too if any third gen hood would work?

 

I believe any firebird/trans am hood will fit... camaro hoods are very different. Any style front should fit however...

 

Definately fixable. not too bad. I've personally had worse and fixed it.If it were me I would turn it into a drift car!! Hehehe!!

 

I think you should fix my 86 was worse than that and I fixed it.

 

You may have some trouble getting everything to line up. I had a similar looking accident to my camaro, my was slightly less and almost all on the front right side. It smashed in my radiator support just enough to throw everything off, and now my hood overhangs about half an inch. I've got used to the way it looks, and for people who don't know what it is supposed to look like, they think its awesome.

All in all, fix it!

 

If it didn't jam the fenders back at all it should be pretty easy to fix. Plus it will give you an excuse to get a cool new hood! Are you gonna do it yourself or no?

 

yeah i gettin it done all myself. i think the passenger side fender is pushed back a lil bit its rubbing when opening the door.

 

thsi was before the accident. kinda bring a tear to my eye..... just gonna make it worth fixing ya know

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3756/00003557cm.jpg

 

allright so im finding parts for my car. ive found the front bumper but he isnt selling everything i need (brother emailed the guy but i cant remember everything he told me) i know one of the things is the impact bar, he also said he would sell my the lights so i wanna go with this. another thing is this impact bar and absorber are these work for my car. it says 82-92 but i was told only 91-92 will work.

(nose)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-...QQcmdZViewItem

(impact and abosrber)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...QQcmdZViewItem

everyone thanks for the help and im hopen to get it fixed

 

that impact bar doesn't look like it has the hoels for the fog/turn lights!

 

do you think i should buy the clip and lights? or should i wait till i find eveything i need in a package?

 

so im fianlly getting things back together. and i need a few suggestions. my core support if bowed just a lil bit but enough to mess everything up. my headlighets are off and my hood wont latch down enless i shim the lil bar thing (sorry i still dont know what to call everything) but heres a few pics im wondering what you would do to try to fix it, im willing to buy a new one and put it in over spring break with my freind who has a welder to weld it back in. ive tryed a slide hammer too

http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/9...upoort16ss.jpg

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7...dlight15kl.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6...dlight27vm.jpg

oh and heres what it looks like right now

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8109/00003643gw.jpg

 

man,if a girl with a great butt gives a mean bj and needs a noes job,you get her the nose job!

 

allright so i was wondering how any of you would go about this, because as you see its not bad so maybe i can do something. if its hopeless im willing to take it out. also if i do manage to straigten it out will it help everything staighten out?

 

even though it sucks after all the work you have already done,if it were me i'd just avoid the hassle and go ahead and replace the core support too.otherwise you could fight it forever abd still not get everything to line up right,i think thats gonna be the easiest.then it will be done right...

 

It looks to me like your well on your way. Make sure your hood aligns with the fenders. Then align the front bumper cover to the hood & fenders. Then the hardest part...... Align the headlamps in the holes between the hood, front cover & fenders. This last part is the part that takes the most patience. The headlamps in these car have a whole bunch of adjustment, take your time & just play with it till you get it like you want it.


I will give you an adaboy...... It sure is looking good!

 

Ok, I'll play Devil's advocate.

Unless you've got the ability to do it yourself, and you've got enough personal interest in the car that you don't mind pumping more than it's worth into it, I'd say part the car and move on.

It's a tbi 305 car. They are a dime a dozen, and not really worth much. While that damage looks like it's just superficial, I'd say there's a very good chance that the radiator support is tweaked enough that you'll need to pull it, along with the bumper mounts. That's not difficult if you know what you're doing, but if you don't, you'll make a mess of the car and you won't get any of your replacement parts to fit right.

My GTA was hit a lot easier than that car, and just needing a bumper cover turned into needing a bumper cover, bumper, headlight assembly, fender, ground effects piece, pulling the radiator support and pulling & shimming the bumper mount. I did it myself so the associated costs really were not much of an issue, but if I sent the car to a body shop, the repair costs would really have been high enough that I may have had to re-evaluate my plans.

If it is a car that you are attached to, obviously that's something to take into consideration, but keep in mind that between what that car is worth parted out, and what the cost to repair it will be, you could be shopping for a nicer car.

 

It all depends...Is the frame messed up? Any unseen damage that you know of? From the picture it looks just the headlight assembly and the bumper cover are messed up...if there's no major damage and you can do the work then I'd say go for it. Nobidy wants to see those good parts go to waste. You could always get a cheaper one with minor damage and put the two together...There's always other options...

 

That's the point I tried to make when I used my car as an example. What things look like in pictures and what is really the case when you start pulling parts off are usually very different. That car is hit harder than mine was, and my radiator support was pushed back 3/4" and the bumper support more than that. This car likely has a fair amount of pulling work in it's future, enough that if you're paying somebody to do it, the car is totalled. If you're doing it yourself, you'd better know what you're doing or you'll never get that car to go back together right.

When it comes to crash damage, you can never judge a book by its cover, and more often than not, once you start pulling a couple layers off, you find a lot more expense staring you in the face.

 

Yeah. Looks like your best bet would be to get another that you could use parts from this one on. Or sell or part that one out to fund a new one...

 

I don't know about dumping it. 305tbi cars may be a dime a dozen, but there all reaching 15 to 20 yrs old. Buying a new ride may open up more head aches than fixing this car. My car had front end damage after a minor collision. It took some tinkering, but the pieces fit. I can stand back and tell areas that look a little off, but when I tell people that the whole front face is new, their shocked.

If you're familiar with your car and everything else about it is in good condition (engine, brakes, interior, blah, blah), keep working on it.

PS, since my last post on this thread, I've put shims underneath the top lip of the fascia, and there is no more gap between the hood. Looks almost perfect.

 

looks like an easy fix to me

 

minus shipping 600 could get you all new parts if you know where to look.