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Old May 2, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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4th Gen dash swap anyone? *UPDATED*

Yes, another dash swap underway. After all my procrastinating I finally started to do this.






I am going to redo all the wiring for the new gauges and what not before I put the new dash in, but I cant wait to get it in and done.

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Old May 2, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Wow, I cant wait till I can do that... along with my LS1!
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Old May 27, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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*UPDATE*

I have a few more pics of my progress so far...

Wiring up the '00 gauges.


'00 gauges connector wired in. Including Class 2 Serial Data.


Testing the gauge cluster wiring.


The gauge cluster test. All the gauges work except for the Fuel Gauge, because I havent finished wiring it in yet, and the Speedometer because I havent plugges in the trans yet. Going to have to tune out the ABS, Brake and Air Bag warning lights.



This is the place where that pesky bracket used to be on the drivers side. Some choose to cut it, others choose to bend it... I chose to break it off. After a while of prying with a little pry bar, I got out the angle grinder and tried to grind the welds, I tore out a big chunk. I finally got it though and then I bent down that part that it was welded to.


That damn bracket.


After prying and grinding and prying, I finally got wise and drilled 3 little holes where the welds were on the bracket and the passenger side bracket fell off with ease. Wish I would have thought of this on the drivers side.


The passenger side bracket removed.


This side came off so much easier after drilling the holes.


Here is where I drilled the hole for the '00 Camaro dash's mounting bracket that didnt line up. All the others lined up so far except for the far drivers side which will take some "tweaking".
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Old May 27, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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Some of the wiring got in the way so I had to take it off the metal braket that holds it under the dash and tuck it up around the heater box for now so the dash will clear better. I left the metal braket in, but it seems to be a restriction for the dash adjusting, so I may "tweak" that a little too, to get it to work better, I think it will work good to give me something to secure the bottom of the '00 Dash so its not rattling around when driving.


Test fitting the '00 Camaro dash. Its going to take a lot of adjusting to get it to fit right. Like "tweaking" that metal bracket to see if that helps. I am really picky with this so I really want to get the dash as centered as possible. I want it to look as stock as I can get it.


Close up of the ceter of the dash test fit. I dunno what I am going to do about the ducting just yet. I am AC/Heater delete so I dont know. I might want to use the vent though so I will see what I can do.


Test fitting the gauges. Damn they look good!


Test fitting on the drivers side. Again I am being really picky about the fitment and I want it as centered as I can get it. The metal braket hasnt seemed to cause a problem on this side yet.


Same issue with fitment on this side. Im not too happy, so I will be adjusting the centering better with a little more "tweaking". It does fit well with the door closed thought.


Drivers side with the door shut. Its a little tight over here, so again I need to adjust it better. Probably once I modify that metal bracket things will fit a lot better. Also notice that my mirror **** is hitting the side of the dash. I am definatly going to have to figure that out.



Thats all I have for now. I will post more as my progress continues.
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Old May 27, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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Great pics, looks nice man. The pics will deffinently help when I test fit mine tomorrow. 94 Bird dash in a 91 Z.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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yea i would love to change over to a 4th gen dash. how much did it cost
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Old May 28, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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so much wiring i would get lost, gotta love that 4th gen interior though wish I had the money to do the swap, looks good keep us updated
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Old May 28, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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what kind of wiring is involved??????
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Old May 28, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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gauges, head lights, power trunk, defrost, heating pod.

i read you dont need the metal piece from the old dash, you use the metal piece form the new dash.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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gauges, head lights, power trunk, defrost, heating pod.

i read you dont need the metal piece from the old dash, you use the metal piece form the new dash.
yes you use the metal bracket from the new das
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Old May 28, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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omg looking good!
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Old May 28, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by smokefan
yea i would love to change over to a 4th gen dash. how much did it cost
I have had this dash lying around for 3 years... LOL I am not exactly sure anymore. Its not too expensive tho. Few hundred.


I actually did not use the metal bracket from the '00 dash. I still have the metal braket from the old dash in. I am going to try a few modifications to get it to work better. Im talking about the bracket on the 3rd gen that NOT attached to the 3rd gen dash. Im talking about the one attached to the car that holds up the wiring.



Thanks for all the compliments guys.

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Old May 29, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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how come you didn't keep the 4th gen camaro gauge cluster in?
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Old May 29, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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I got the dash and gauges seperatly... I like the way that the gauges are broken up with a border like that on the T/A gauges... When I go with white faces it will look really good.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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is this wiring any harder then a lt1 conversion?
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Old May 29, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ssean92
is this wiring any harder then a lt1 conversion?
If all goes as planned, I'll let you know in a couple weeks, fellow LT1 swapper.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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firebat please let me know, was wanting to do it to both my cars
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Old May 30, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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how did you get your digital odometer to work i can't find anyone you can tell me what wires need to be spliced together ofr it to work all they say is that i need the lt1 gauges i have an 01 formula dash
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Old May 30, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by obeymybird
how did you get your digital odometer to work i can't find anyone you can tell me what wires need to be spliced together ofr it to work all they say is that i need the lt1 gauges i have an 01 formula dash
Ls1 gauges won't work b/c of the tach. Maybe the digital odometer too? If you really want the digital odometer, get a 97 camaro or firebird gauge cluster from a 97 V8.
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Originally Posted by ssean92
firebat please let me know, was wanting to do it to both my cars
I'm thinking its going to be easier than the LT1 engine swap since we already know where most of the wires are.

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Old May 31, 2006 | 01:56 AM
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wow how can you say that it can't be done when he just did a 2000 cluster swap?
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Old May 31, 2006 | 02:39 AM
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He has an LS1 and that makes the LS1 gauge cluster work. Assuming you're talking about knyghtmare. I should have added "unless you have an LS1"

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Old May 31, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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do the 4th gen apillars fit on a 3rd gen to cover that gap on the sides??

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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SnkSknrZ28
do the 4th gen apillars fit on a 3rd gen to cover that gap on the sides??
Someone a while back said they got the t-top pillars to work but never posted pics.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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is the Camaro dash easier to install than the T/A dash?? because I think I like the T/A A/C vents better
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Old May 31, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Someone a while back said they got the t-top pillars to work but never posted pics.
i will soon have pics
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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knyghtmare still spliced wires didnt he into the thirdgen dash?

i would like to know how you wired the ls1 connector into the thirdgen connectors.

especially the class 2 serial data wiring for the fuel gauge, tachometer, coolant temp info.

i sent you a PM kynghtmare
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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... hmm... maybe its time to do the 4th gen conversion.. definitely adding all of this to the gallery.. good job man.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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with your concerns with door fitment an promises of tweaking, consider instead fitting in fourth gen door inserts. Most new cars extend the dash into the doors, so you might get a better fit if that works out.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Firebat
Someone a while back said they got the t-top pillars to work but never posted pics.
here are this pics.



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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 07:07 PM
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Re: 4th Gen dash swap anyone?

I know this is an old thread, but I'm going to bump it anyways because it's one of the very few threads for a 4th gen dash swap with the pictures still intact, and I've been searching for days. Broken photo links are frustrating.
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