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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 04:20 AM
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that sucsk man! but be thankfull, my uncle wasnt so lucky, his friend hit a frikken bull, and if he hadnt ducked, when it went over the hood he wouldve died. and forget about his friends car! it took out the passenger side a pillar.
but hey, get it back and start wrenchin!
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz'N Bruz'R
How did you not see a horse in the road? Were your lights not on or something?

Hitting a raccoon or a deer running in friont of you is one thing, but a horse man? Come on, were you asleep?
i live way out in the middle of BFE and "boyh yew gotta purty mouf", i can understand why Nim didnt see the horse. when the moon isnt out and its dark maaaaaaaaaaaaan ITS DARK!!! you cant cut the night with a chainsaw it gets so black. i hit a deer in my 89 formula a few months back but luckily for me it just damaged the headlight door. fixed that and all was good so i feel your irritation.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by purpleZ-28
that sucsk man! but be thankfull, my uncle wasnt so lucky, his friend hit a frikken bull, and if he hadnt ducked, when it went over the hood he wouldve died. and forget about his friends car! it took out the passenger side a pillar.
but hey, get it back and start wrenchin!
I am thankful! Could have been alot worse! And yes I am acctually looking forward to work on the car. But like you said I still gotta get it back! And I gotta get money! Who knows when that will be...

Originally Posted by QUICKCHICKEN
i live way out in the middle of BFE and "boyh yew gotta purty mouf", i can understand why Nim didnt see the horse. when the moon isnt out and its dark maaaaaaaaaaaaan ITS DARK!!! you cant cut the night with a chainsaw it gets so black. i hit a deer in my 89 formula a few months back but luckily for me it just damaged the headlight door. fixed that and all was good so i feel your irritation.
And your just talking about a dark road... This road has a canopy over it because the trees are so close to the road! Thanks for pointing things out for people! Glad to hear you got your car back on the road.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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looks like there is still some horse goo on your car too lol.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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So a horse and a camaro walk into a bar......

LOL i couldnt help myself

Seriously though, sorry about your car. I dont care if it was a family pet or a show horse or if it belonged to the phuckin queen of england, it shouldnt have been let loose! Call me insensitive but maybe now those kids will learn some responsibility and not "accidentally leave the gate open". Its their fault blackie ran into the road, its their fault hes a pile of dog food and elmers glue now, and its their fault that yet another thirdgen is looking like crap. (dont take that the wrong way, it was beautiful before and it will shine again!). But come on now, what are these kids like 12? Obviously if theyre old enough to be tearing around on 4 wheelers in the middle of the night theyre old enough to take care of a pet. If i were you not only would i make them pay the tow bill and the cost of parts for your car, id make them pay me labor for having to invest so many hours of sweat into it, AGAIN!!!

Like i say, call me a butt hole but when someone messes up my car they better pay! Id be calling their house 3x a day until they pay up. Sorry about your car man, and good luck to you. I cant wait to see the pics of it all prettied up again!!!
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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The car can be fixed so I dont feel sorry for the car, I feel sorry for the the horse but the owner should have been taking better care of the horse making sure he cant get out but good luck fixing your car

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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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horse...

I could not stop "laughing" all the way reading through these threads about the "roadkills"! I have been in FLA and I know those roads are dark! I was going down 41, from Naples to the Keys, and seen A LOT of "interesting" road kills along that road, and the "HUGE" buzzards! Coming from Pa. this is something! The worst I seen up here eating roadkills, were big azz crows! (Why didn't ya take a pic of the horse after the accident? lmao!) JK.....Best of luck trying to fix your car~
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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LOL...This reminds me...My cousin and I hit one of those buzzards in his F-350 out west on Orange ave in Florida. We were cruising along and a whole bunch of Buzzards were chowing down right in the middle of the road. Guess he figure they would fly off fast enough so he kept cruising. As we got closer and he realized it was gonna be a close one he started yelling..."Were gonna hit a Bird, Were gonna hit a bird, Were gonna hi....It was kinda funny cause this all of them except one got out the way, this one flew forward first then kinda right, kinda left and SLAM! Right off the windsgield of the truck...Funny we both ducked and it was loud...No damage to the truck thankfully and it looked like the buzzard was dazed but gonna live as I turned around and looked back...The way my cousin said it though, that was the funniest $hit.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Car is now in my yard !!!!

Estimated damages from Lehmans Auto Body, Inc. $5,126!!!!

I wonder how this is gonna work out!? Im starting to have the feeling Im gonna have to goto court. Boo.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nimrod_sixty9
Car is now in my yard !!!!

Estimated damages from Lehmans Auto Body, Inc. $5,126!!!!

I wonder how this is gonna work out!? Im starting to have the feeling Im gonna have to goto court. Boo.
well that sounds like some good news and some bad news. good to hear its back in your hands!
but DAMN! over 5K?
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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a bent rad support means pretty major damage on these cars... pushes the front unibody frame around alot... good luck man....
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Cars total, you're going to get the blue book value and that thing is going to be totaled.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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yep totaled

around here if 65% of book value is more than repairs,it gets totaled,over 5 to fix seems pretty high?!?!?sorry for your loss
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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I think Im going to have a problem....

The cops told me the night of the accident that it was automatically the owners fault. The owner said the kids were out riding 4 wheelers that night and proby left the gate open. When I was talking to them on the phone, for the hell of it I asked if they knew how the horse got out. She quikly said they have no idea at all.

Now other ppl are telling me that I have to prove negligence.

I think someone has told them this, and that they are gonna try and screw me out of my money.

Anyone know any legal about this? Or what laywer I should see? I have to get this stuff done soon because I have school starting up. Damnit this sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Am I just screwed or what? PLEASE HELP!
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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First rule is, you should NEVER talk to the other party without a lawyer present if it involves a suit of any type. Second, even thought they "dont know" how it got out, it is still their repsonsibility to ensure that the horse doesnt. The statute-of-limitaition for lawsuits involving accidents is 3 years, so you have 3 years to the date of the accident to get your money. This may vary though depending on the "no-liability" laws of some states.

You need to find a lawyer ASAP for this if you want to see any money from it. And dont call one of those tv lawyers Most of the time they are located in a different state than you, making things 10 times for difficult and frustrating.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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bad news I think bad news indeed. I would go to the courthouse and get the REAL lawbook out and ask them exactly what the REAL LAW'S are for this type deal... and don't leave until you get the REAL answer(s).
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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just something i found while i googled this:

florida law horse wreck

Horse/Car Collisions :
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Fisel struck a cow that had wandered onto the highway from an adjacent field. The gate was open but there was no evidence who left the gate open. The trial court and Court of Appeals held that the owner of the cow could not be held liable without a showing of his negligence in leaving the gate open and there was no such proof in this case.
The Supreme Court agreed. This opinion is an excellent discussion of the history of open range and fencing laws. Florida law continues to require a showing of negligence in this circumstance, so the Supreme Court affirmed the decision of the Court of Appeals.
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Plaintiff Toole sued defendant Dupuis for the killing of his horse on the highway. The trial court threw out the case on the ground that a Florida statute requires an owner to keep livestock off the highways. There was no proof Toole was negligent in permitting his horse to be on the highway.
The Court of Appeals reversed the trial court. It said that the statute requires proof of negligence on the part of the livestock owner for there to be a violation. It sent the case back to the trial court for further proceedings.

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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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****!!!! So this means Im screwed!?!?!
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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I would see if you could get them on the "kids left gate open while putting up the 4-wheelers" bit... but also, if they are lieing, they could be put in jail for lieing in the court of law.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottieB
I would see if you could get them on the "kids left gate open while putting up the 4-wheelers" bit... but also, if they are lieing, they could be put in jail for lieing in the court of law.
She never said thats what happened. She just said thats what probly happened. A few days later she retracts and says she doesnt know. I cant take the chance of losing in court. Do you think I could still use it?

**** Im screwed... Thanks for finding this stuff for me.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 03:08 AM
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Aww... that poor horse. And of course your car too... hope you get it fixed soon.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy8722
Aww... that poor horse. And of course your car too... hope you get it fixed soon.
Acctualy Im getting to the point where I want to kill the horse again...
And the car will probly never roll again...
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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If you do manage to get the car back on the road, I would put a personalized liscense plate on it 8')

PONYKILR

Hehe sorry, I couldnt resist. Sorry about yours and the horses misfortune.

I would totally be looking for a lawer experienced in automotive collision suits. A good lawer will get you compensated for the car and your time. As far as proof of neglegence goes....the horse was off of they're property standing on a county/state road. That sounds pretty darn neglegent to me. Good luck with your endevour.

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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Get a lawyer, my friend hit a bog dog and it messed up her truck bad and the owners of the dog had to pay because they didnt have their dog contained. I don't know if theres animal laws there saying your animal has to stay on your property, no matter how the animal got out, you can get ticketed big time here for having an animal running around. Don't blame the poor horse bolame the stupid owners.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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read up on the law, it's worth the time.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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to keep the joke going...

At this rate man, we won't have ANY mustangs to race and make fun of!!! Stop killing them >.< There will only be v4's to make fun of that thar R.I.C.E.R.S
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottieB
to keep the joke going...

At this rate man, we won't have ANY mustangs to race and make fun of!!! Stop killing them >.< There will only be v4's to make fun of that thar R.I.C.E.R.S
v4's huh?
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy8722
Get a lawyer, my friend hit a bog dog and it messed up her truck bad and the owners of the dog had to pay because they didnt have their dog contained. I don't know if theres animal laws there saying your animal has to stay on your property, no matter how the animal got out, you can get ticketed big time here for having an animal running around. Don't blame the poor horse bolame the stupid owners.
Well you seen the stuff ScottieB found. Acording to those and other cases, it looks like I don't have a chance. (Florida)

Looks like Im gonna be driving a 1988 Jeep Comache, LOL! Not a bad little truck, not like my sweet Camaro or anything, but for $500 bux I could have a way to get back and forth to school.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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Before you give up hope, I would try to speak to the officer(s) that were on the scene. The negligence is proven by the fact that a horse was on the road. The lady offered up the idea that the kids left the gate open. Just because she said she doesn't know now, that doesnt mean that the previous statement was never made. At the very least you need to take that estimate to small claims court and file immediately. Make her and her family pay up.
It is their damn horse, they need to be made responsible.
I would get a copy of the laws and local statues involving any kind of an auto accident involving an animal.
I will try to help. I live just west of ft myers.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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I do not know the law very well, but just going by the facts you have given, my arguement would be this...the animal was not full grown, it was too large to go under the fence, and it was too small to jump over the fence. Therefore the only way the animal could have gotten out was by neglect to close the gate keeping it pinned up.

Just because another lawer lost a suit with similar facts, doesn't mean you will also, he just had no game
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by thaforce
I do not know the law very well, but just going by the facts you have given, my arguement would be this...the animal was not full grown, it was too large to go under the fence, and it was too small to jump over the fence. Therefore the only way the animal could have gotten out was by neglect to close the gate keeping it pinned up.

Just because another lawer lost a suit with similar facts, doesn't mean you will also, he just had no game
good one i'd try that.
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Originally Posted by BCdawg57
v4's huh?
Why are they classed as L4? sorry, typo on my part

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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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They have 4 four-wheelers and cant pay to fix your car??????

The first thing your lawyer will do, if you get one, is find out every asset, bank account, savings account, coin stamp book cigar collection that they have, and will determine if a suit will be worth the time. They can afford to give their kids 4 four-wheelers, but cant seem to cough up the cash to compensate for their own negligence?
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 01:06 AM
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If they couldn't afford it they shouldn't have popped out TWELVE kids!!!
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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They live in Martin and own horses but cant afford to fix the nose of your Camaro?

Sucks, I figured you would have had the car back together already...Did you even get the car back from the tow yard yet?
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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It doesn't matter if they have money or not. The lawer will be sueing they're homeowners insurance company.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by thaforce
I do not know the law very well, but just going by the facts you have given, my arguement would be this...the animal was not full grown, it was too large to go under the fence, and it was too small to jump over the fence. Therefore the only way the animal could have gotten out was by neglect to close the gate keeping it pinned up.

Just because another lawer lost a suit with similar facts, doesn't mean you will also, he just had no game
WOW... Didnt event think about that. Maybe you should be my lawyer, LOL! There was even a case where the gate was left wide open, but since they couldnt prove it was the owner the guy lost. I have yet to find a case where someone has won. But you do make one hell of an argument! Thanks for pointing this out. I may see a lawyer soon, hopfully my case looks good bacause Im broke, WooT.


They live in Martin and own horses but cant afford to fix the nose of your Camaro?

Sucks, I figured you would have had the car back together already...Did you even get the car back from the tow yard yet?
I only wish it was fixed! Like I said looks like Im gonna be driving a Comanche... But yeah I do have it in my yard at the least. I think I will eventually get another Camaro that needs interior or somthin. A cheap Camaro that needs the parts that I already have. Right now I just need somthing to get me to school. I will ride in a Camaro again!!! We will eventually get that cruise going! ( I might be in a jeep though, LOL!)

Remember guys, the law says that I do have to prove negligence. While it may seem that the right thing to do is to pay for my damages, Florida law says otherwise.
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Originally Posted by thaforce
It doesn't matter if they have money or not. The lawer will be sueing they're homeowners insurance company.
Asked them about that too. They said it just ran out because they never sent them a bill

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