Body General body information and techniques for restoration, repairs, and modifications.

Is there really a camaro under this?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 07:15 PM
  #51  
evoluzione1's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 379
Likes: 0
From: ohio
Car: 88IROC vert and a 83 w/evo body
Engine: 400 and 350
Transmission: T56 and 700R4
Axle/Gears: 323 and 373
Originally Posted by cavazos31
what kind of reaction does the ferrari driving next to you get?

Since I have only been beside 4 different Ferrari's (308, 355, Mondial and 348) and they are not the great ones maybe I am wrong
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 07:40 PM
  #52  
5678TA's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,857
Likes: 0
From: Maui, Hawaii
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: broken 385sbc
Transmission: G-Force rebuilt T-5
Axle/Gears: Currie 9" Ford 4.30:1
IMO, i like the kit.. but the only thing i'm worried about is power.. if you're gonna have one hell of a body kit, then you are gonna need some serious power to back it up.. i honestly hate ALL-for-show cars.. if it looks that nice, it better run that much nicer than my car.. at least a procharged 415 or something.. your body kit should NEVER cost more then your engine or performance upgrades.. if you really want a nicer car, buy one..
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 10:24 PM
  #53  
Pocket's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,117
Likes: 361
From: NC
Car: 91 Trans Am
Its not a body kit, its a whole freakin rebody

Calling a kit car a body kit is like callin your Z28 a camero. Blasphemy

Since when did the engine have to be the most expensive thing on it
Most of the drag cars that hotrodders consider a wetdream with wheels have more in their back half and paintjob than the whole engine trans combo
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:56 AM
  #54  
CrazyHawaiian's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 5,675
Likes: 3
From: Changing Tires
Car: too many ...
I like it. If it had worked out where I had the funds when they were still making them I would have tried to make one. Oh well.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 03:01 AM
  #55  
5678TA's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,857
Likes: 0
From: Maui, Hawaii
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: broken 385sbc
Transmission: G-Force rebuilt T-5
Axle/Gears: Currie 9" Ford 4.30:1
Originally Posted by Pocket
Most of the drag cars that hotrodders consider a wetdream with wheels have more in their back half and paintjob than the whole engine trans combo
really?? $4000 backhalf, $6000 paint??? MAX.. i just think that if it looks good, it should run good.. no "all-show, no go" bullshit.. just like ferraris and lambos.. it looks that good, has that many luxuries, costs THAT much and still can be beat by an all motor SBC for barely a fraction of the price it costs for the car.. but thats just me..

for example, if i were to get the body kit, i would want at least a 700hp motor in it.. you know, something that will actually spin those 335 wide tires.. a 6speed, currie 9", baer brakes all around, a nice/decent drop, nice rims, sound system, cumfy interior, and an exhaust note that matches the car's high-end looks.. i just dont see the point of just getting the body kit on a stock car.. so what if it makes it look better, life is mainly about performance.. people like to see beautiful cars that are fast..
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 05:40 AM
  #56  
anesthes's Avatar
TGO Supporter/Moderator
25 Year Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 12,089
Likes: 125
From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Originally Posted by 5678TA
really?? $4000 backhalf, $6000 paint??? MAX.. i just think that if it looks good, it should run good.. no "all-show, no go" bullshit.. just like ferraris and lambos.. it looks that good, has that many luxuries, costs THAT much and still can be beat by an all motor SBC for barely a fraction of the price it costs for the car.. but thats just me..

for example, if i were to get the body kit, i would want at least a 700hp motor in it.. you know, something that will actually spin those 335 wide tires.. a 6speed, currie 9", baer brakes all around, a nice/decent drop, nice rims, sound system, cumfy interior, and an exhaust note that matches the car's high-end looks.. i just dont see the point of just getting the body kit on a stock car.. so what if it makes it look better, life is mainly about performance.. people like to see beautiful cars that are fast..
They are not trying to make a drag car out of it. They're trying to make it look and feel like an exotic car. A 700hp motor is unrealistic on the street anyhow.

There is nothing wrong with 'all show, no go'. How about the majority of ugly fbody's that don't go or show?
Like the stripped out but still heavy drag irocs with roll cages, currie 9" rear ends, no interior, that still go seconds slower than a properly built vega? But that seems acceptable around here.

Some guys are into looks. Infact, MOST guys are into looks. Go to a car show, most of those cars won't go over 70mph without becoming unstable. But they LOOK good. Apples and oranges. Your saying the car is not right because it's not the way you would like it. Who gives a rats ***? I'm sure he doesn't, unless you have 15k to spend.

-- Joe
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 08:43 AM
  #57  
evoluzione1's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 379
Likes: 0
From: ohio
Car: 88IROC vert and a 83 w/evo body
Engine: 400 and 350
Transmission: T56 and 700R4
Axle/Gears: 323 and 373
Well if you were at my cardomain you would not this car is not all show and no go. This car has ran an respecful 12.9 in the quarter. of all the Evo's I have seen or owners I know only one had a stock motor and the rest are built. One even has a built big block and is getting a custom hood build since the stock one will not work with that big motor.
Building a EVO is not much different then putting in a 4th gen interior or a LT1 engine swap or a cage in the car. These are all big swaps and the car has been modified from it original look, Samething I and many many others have done for a change.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 12:23 PM
  #58  
327_TPI_77_Maro's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,896
Likes: 0
From: Charles County, Maryland
Car: 2000 BMW M5
12.9 is a very respectable street car. At least it will go!
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 01:11 PM
  #59  
5678TA's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,857
Likes: 0
From: Maui, Hawaii
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: broken 385sbc
Transmission: G-Force rebuilt T-5
Axle/Gears: Currie 9" Ford 4.30:1
Originally Posted by anesthes
They are not trying to make a drag car out of it. They're trying to make it look and feel like an exotic car. A 700hp motor is unrealistic on the street anyhow.

There is nothing wrong with 'all show, no go'. How about the majority of ugly fbody's that don't go or show?
Like the stripped out but still heavy drag irocs with roll cages, currie 9" rear ends, no interior, that still go seconds slower than a properly built vega? But that seems acceptable around here.

Some guys are into looks. Infact, MOST guys are into looks. Go to a car show, most of those cars won't go over 70mph without becoming unstable. But they LOOK good. Apples and oranges. Your saying the car is not right because it's not the way you would like it. Who gives a rats ***? I'm sure he doesn't, unless you have 15k to spend.

-- Joe
i know you dont care what i think, but it is MY OPINION.. no one has to agree with what i have to say.. i'm just saying what i feel would make a build up of such a car with a body kit that expensive to fit my taste.. not anyone elses.. why go through the trouble of paying sooo much for a body kit and have mediocre performance.. i'm just a performance guy.. looks come second in my mind.. hell, if i could buy a rust bucket that runs 10's for cheap, i would get it.. i like the sleeper look.. and a car that has that body kit should be fast.. its like having a ferrari with a 4cyl.. you gonna pay that much for weak performance.. thats just MY OPINION
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:06 PM
  #60  
cavazos31's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 273
Likes: 1
From: Fox Lake, IL
Car: 1988 camaro sports coupe
Engine: Fast Burn 385
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt w/ 3.27 gears
Originally Posted by anesthes
Some guys are into looks. Infact, MOST guys are into looks. Go to a car show, most of those cars won't go over 70mph without becoming unstable. But they LOOK good. Apples and oranges. Your saying the car is not right because it's not the way you would like it. Who gives a rats ***? I'm sure he doesn't, unless you have 15k to spend.
-- Joe
I agree. Lots of people are into looks. Look at all the stupid wings, spoilers, car club stickers, huge exhaust tips, and lame vinyl stickers you see going around. I don't agree in trying to make a point with 5678TA. Your saying the car IS right because of the way YOU like it. Whats the difference? I would think some people would also agree that a car that looks fast and goes nowhere is an oxymoron of sorts. Some people here actually like performace as opposed to looks. And before a car at "the car show" makes it into production, I'm pretty sure it capable of exceeding 70mph. What are you trying to build a concept car? Just because someone doesn't agree with MOST doesn't make them wrong. Besides, how can you speak for most people? Most people at a car show are there to look at cool cars. Most people at the drag strip are into performance. "Most" depends on who you ask.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 03:54 PM
  #61  
5678TA's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,857
Likes: 0
From: Maui, Hawaii
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: broken 385sbc
Transmission: G-Force rebuilt T-5
Axle/Gears: Currie 9" Ford 4.30:1
Originally Posted by cavazos31
I agree. Lots of people are into looks. Look at all the stupid wings, spoilers, car club stickers, huge exhaust tips, and lame vinyl stickers you see going around. I don't agree in trying to make a point with 5678TA. Your saying the car IS right because of the way YOU like it. Whats the difference? I would think some people would also agree that a car that looks fast and goes nowhere is an oxymoron of sorts. Some people here actually like performace as opposed to looks. And before a car at "the car show" makes it into production, I'm pretty sure it capable of exceeding 70mph. What are you trying to build a concept car? Just because someone doesn't agree with MOST doesn't make them wrong. Besides, how can you speak for most people? Most people at a car show are there to look at cool cars. Most people at the drag strip are into performance. "Most" depends on who you ask.
someone finally understands where i'm coming from.. its all about opinion, your own personal thoughts about a given subject..
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 04:00 PM
  #62  
cavazos31's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 273
Likes: 1
From: Fox Lake, IL
Car: 1988 camaro sports coupe
Engine: Fast Burn 385
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt w/ 3.27 gears
Originally Posted by Riles
rivets hold the skins on while the body panel adhesive sets up. Then they just get fiberglassed over (they are counter-sunk). The tool boxes are also used as weight until the adhesives set, since I can't rivet through the glass.
so you put adhesive right on the T tops and glue on the fiberglass? what does it look like from the inside?
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 07:15 PM
  #63  
anesthes's Avatar
TGO Supporter/Moderator
25 Year Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 12,089
Likes: 125
From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Originally Posted by cavazos31
I agree. Lots of people are into looks. Look at all the stupid wings, spoilers, car club stickers, huge exhaust tips, and lame vinyl stickers you see going around. I don't agree in trying to make a point with 5678TA. Your saying the car IS right because of the way YOU like it. Whats the difference? I would think some people would also agree that a car that looks fast and goes nowhere is an oxymoron of sorts. Some people here actually like performace as opposed to looks. And before a car at "the car show" makes it into production, I'm pretty sure it capable of exceeding 70mph. What are you trying to build a concept car? Just because someone doesn't agree with MOST doesn't make them wrong. Besides, how can you speak for most people? Most people at a car show are there to look at cool cars. Most people at the drag strip are into performance. "Most" depends on who you ask.

Ahh but see, you missed my point.. My point was, the SELLER, and BUYER don't give a rats *** about his comments because the car is what THEY want.

Coming on and listing all the reasons why he doesn't like it is pointless. Nobody asked him to buy it.

For the record, I like both performance, and looks. thats why i'm building a corvette. I've had plenty of go fast cars in the past that looked either stock or like they belonged in a junkyard I'm going for something different now.

-- Joe
----------
Originally Posted by 5678TA
i know you dont care what i think, but it is MY OPINION.. no one has to agree with what i have to say.. i'm just saying what i feel would make a build up of such a car with a body kit that expensive to fit my taste.. not anyone elses.. why go through the trouble of paying sooo much for a body kit and have mediocre performance.. i'm just a performance guy.. looks come second in my mind.. hell, if i could buy a rust bucket that runs 10's for cheap, i would get it.. i like the sleeper look.. and a car that has that body kit should be fast.. its like having a ferrari with a 4cyl.. you gonna pay that much for weak performance.. thats just MY OPINION
I used to be just like you, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with how you think a car should be. The point i'm trying to get across is you need to accept what HE/SHE wants a car to be.. Since it's his/her car, not yours or mine.


-- Joe

Last edited by anesthes; Jan 19, 2007 at 07:17 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 09:36 AM
  #64  
Riles's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey
Car: 88 Camaro Evoluzione Rebody
Engine: 350
Transmission: wc t5 swap completed!
Axle/Gears: 3.73 10 bolt
Originally Posted by cavazos31
so you put adhesive right on the T tops and glue on the fiberglass? what does it look like from the inside?
I'm not attaching the t-tops skins, I don't like them much. The roof is pretty much left alone, its the rest of the car that gets the attention. The adhesive holds the door skins, the rear trunk lid fascia, and a few other parts to the body.

I haven't started on the interior yet. So right now, it just looks like a stripped down camaro interior. Even though my car is getting close to being "road worthy", it still has months and months before all of the finishing touches are on it.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Frozer!!!
Camaros for Sale
35
Jan 19, 2024 04:55 PM
Vintageracer
Camaros for Sale
12
Jan 10, 2020 05:33 PM
84z96L31vortec
Tech / General Engine
7
Aug 20, 2017 12:16 AM
BADNBLK
Auto Detailing and Appearance
15
Nov 16, 2016 09:12 AM
porkenstein
Convertibles
15
Aug 31, 2015 12:54 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:33 PM.