well i was going through an intersection this sunday at 5am and my brake rotor broke so i couldnt stop at the red light as i go through i am t-boned by a chrysler 300 which was going 55 mph heres the results guys


Now heres a pic of the Chrysler 300 who at 5am made no attempt to even slow down for my un stopable car.

And One More

Oh yea and another thing his new vehicle registration time was up on the 3rd of february the date he hit me was the 18th he shouldnt even of been on the road!

Is everybody okay? Your camaro took that hit like a champ!

There was a thread a while ago about how well thirdgens do in accidents, here's more proof.

So what's the plan now?

wow that 300 is messed and u only got a big ol dent in your door and a little extra ur hood still looks fine i feel that much safer in my camaro now well as long as a truck and a semi don't hit me they would probably drive right up the front of the car lol

Darn man! Glad to hear you are ok... Any idea on who the officials are going to fault?

Didnt break the hatch glass! I would think a hit like that would have shattered that first thing.

Justin

Glad no one is hurt!

Makes me feel a whole lot safer driving a Third-Gen.

WHEW!! Thank God your not hurt, that's a hell of a shot!

He (unintentionally) ran a red light.



Hope you're alright! These pictures should be posted in every thread where there are people asking for carbon fiber doors for street use. These heavy doors serve a purpose!

Glad you are ok, as repetitive as that is, its true. Let us know what happens.

that sucks but looks like the hood is fine

Definitely sucks, glad you are ok and nice to see the Camaro took the hit pretty well considering.

Not to the negative one here, I know it is probably heart breaking . . it would be for me, but I feel like you are trying to put too much blame on the other guy.

Glad your ok but let me get something straight here. You were driving a car you knew you couldnt stop? And then you ran a red light in the car you knew you couldnt stop, right? So how is the guy in the 300 at fault? Jeeze if I was him Id be pissed you just smashed my brand new car. Im not tring to start trouble just tring to make sure i understood correctly.
Matt

did u try ur e-brake at all cause u said the front rotor didn't work not to sound like a smart *** or anything but what about ur e-brake that's what i woulda went for as soon as i noiticed my brakes were out.

he didnt really say he is putting the other guy at fault, but the other guys car wasnt even registered at the time so i imagine he is getting in a fair load of shitt himself...

Good to hear that you are okay. But how does a brake rotor break out of curiosity? I know brake lines can rupture (due to experience ) but did it separate or something?

Well see thats the thing with the registration, I dont kno how it is in his state. But in Connecticut, that new car reg is for when you first buy they car. After it expires its still registered but now you have the permanent plates and all that. I kno cause I just went through this with a new car.
Matt

So I'm assuming you had a big sign on your car that said "I have no brakes"
Live & learn, glad you and him are ok.

wow

Think Id sacrifice my transmission before i sacricifice my whole car

Just me thou

If you look at a rotor, it has two discs joined by "fins", the fins rot out or go bad due to poor quality metals. That allows the rotor to shrink in thickness and the caliper cant squeeze tight on floating discs. This results in brake rotor failure. Im with the other people in asking, e- brake, reverse, down-shift?

^ it can be hard to think of doing all that crap in a matter of seconds.


btw, that kinda sucks to have your first post about wrecking your car. hopefully you didnt join just to post pics of your wrecked car.

Rotor failure should not prevent the car from stopping. The brake system is split into two circuits for this very reason (should one fail). 2 wheels on one and 2 on the other. It's a critical safety engineered design. If you couldn't stop just because of the one rotor failure, then your car has serious brake problem issues and was a rolling accident waiting to happen. Thank goodness no one was hurt, but technically you shouldn't have even had that car on the road.

Good thing no one was hurt, but it was incredibly stupid of you to drive your car if you knew the brakes were broken before you started driving. What I don't understand is that you knew the car wouldn't stop using traditional methods before you started driving... you would have known to use the Ebrake or to downshift to slow down. You would/should have been ready to compensate.

Careless in the strictest definition of the word.

Daaaaaamn, I def. need to fix my parking brake.

Glad ur ok man, a third-gen door just saved ur life. Too me, that **** is incredible. Are you going to fix that car back up or what, I am sure you can find someone giving a door away, and possibly the quarter panel too. What are your plans?

frame damage....

Ya definently has some serious frame tweakage...

Glad everyone is alright, but i dont understand a lot of things. You at the least would still have had your rear brakes...So you can see this car coming right to you cause you know you cant stop...did you swerve or anything? How sudden did it happen, did you know your rotor was F-ed up?

hell yea dude that sux
looks like the a pillar was tweaked too, id say the k member is screwed, prolly the steering knuckle and lower control arm and def sum frame tweakage...
believe me cosmetics are the least of your worries!
it could be fixed, if you cant look at it part it out, i know it hurts but ud get more money partin it out than u would sellin the car and it would give u money for a new car too...
just food for thought
good luck dude
-ken

I'm glad your alright.

It's just a car.

Just a guess, do any of you, repair frame damaged cars for a living? Do you have the measurements on the car? I have fixed over 25 cars that came to my work in far worse shape . It "appears" to sustained a bent strut or a bent control arm. With a frame straighting machine, you can pull that damage to the 1/4 panel and where the door attaches easily. Its gonna cost a few pennies but i could have it done in no time flat.

wow thats amazing for 55mph.. I'd say it was more like 30.

That's why when I do brakes in the summer I change the rotors. It is a cheap swap. These cars move pretty fast and most people put a lot of money into hoods, spoilers, engine go fast parts and stereos but the most important part on the car is the brakes. If you can't stop you could die. Always have good rotors, brakelines, calipers and cables.

I have lost count of third gens i have worked on that the proportional valve goes bad and if one wheel experiences a failure, then the whole system goes out. I have had this happen, where Mildas(brake shop) messed up my caliper soft line and lead to a near accident due to no breaks(killed trans by putting it in reverse). Also, im not even fixing my rust,engine or cosmetics before i know my stopping is better than stock and in superior working order.

haha i always love seeing a camaro with some minor bodywork, and the person who caused the accident left with nothing but a writeoff. some stupid civic cut me off as i was goin straight thru an intersection once. her front end was pushed right up, she couldnt see out of her window cuz of the hood being so bent, she was leaking tranny, engine oil and coolant. and meanwhile my camaro was still running, had to turn the key and put it in park before i got out.

so whats gonna happen to your car now dude?

LS1 upgrade front/rear FTW! One of the best upgrades I ever made to my 87. My rear drums werent even working correctly I dont think. Caused me to almost slide through a couple intersections, ESPECIALLY when wet. I got it working pretty good before my swap. But holy moly. Those 4th gen brakes and adjustable prop valve really haul the car down. Definetly a good/inexpensive way to increase your braking.

J.

If you dont mind me asking, what was your final cost to upgrade to ls1 breaks? I was looking at either aftermarket(brembo) upgrade, or l1e(iroc brakes) But if the cost isnt horrible then i might do this.

Pm'ing ya...

J.

No i dont repair frame damaged cars for a living. Yes i have the measurements of camaros from any different point almost. Of course you can pull the frame back out, im not arguing that. The car was definently "tweaked" are you denying that? All i said was it was tweaked and looking at the thing i bet it was. Id love to see a shot of the other side of the roof. Judging by that much damage that i can see you can believe its pretty F-ed up right now...

I hope you get enough to cover the new hood.

- i couldnt agree more dude. thats why wen my brakes went bad last year and a caliper locked up, i bit the bullet, spent the $1,300, and got me a killer set of brakes built by Ed Miller; i went from having terrible stopping distances, to bieng able to stop from 60-0 quicker than i ever thought possible; i dont have to worry about ; oh ****, are my stock 10" brakes and shitty pads guna stop me in time from hitting ____ in front of me in the rain, etc..

getting a bigger brake system, even at least on the front, is very important for these cars, they are heavy, and unless u are totally irresponsible, it will ONLY help you, never hurt u or ur car.

I believe the car manufacturers purposely, allow for the front ends to crush like that on a head on collision, so that the car & not the driver & passengers absorb the impact of the accident. If it was hit on the side as the Camaro was, the damage would have been similar to that of the Camaro.

Just a guess, you're not a metallurgist.
I'm sure your magic frame straightener will cure stressed/fatigued metal as well.

Of course you can make the car "appear" fine in no time flat. It certainly isn't the same as it was anymore though.

bah, obivously your no metallurgist yourself. if you are then perhaps you have data to prove to us that an bent frame that is straightened is weaker than a normal one. now obivously its going to be weaker, but we are talking in forces that wont even affect you if you get hit in the same spot again. that steel will just bend right back and be happy for the rest of its life there. this isnt aluminum we are talking about where if you bend it once, then its toast and you have to throw it away. the unibody has steel thick enough that it can be bent back into shape without damage. besides, i guess my die pressed fenders (and every dam part made of metal on that car) is weaker now from the pressure of the die press forcing it into shape without heat.

Why do you guys think he knew the brakes were broke before he drove it to gasoline alley in the sky?

If you look, he says his brake rotor broke... I thikn if it were already broken he would have said "my brake rotor was broken"...

Most people arent saying that, The origional poster hasent come back and confirmed that he did/dident know they were broke. If he did know and still drove it then that was very stupid. I doubt he knew ahead of time tho.

aw that suxs sry to hear about that

My god! That doesn't say much for the safety of tens of thousands of 3rd gen owners out there. That's a little disconcerting to say the least.

I hope ole Toby has good insurance, he's gonna need it!!!!

I didn't claim to be.

I didn't say the car would fall apart.

I said it will not be the same as it was.

Hardened steel is strong but brittle.

It looks like the dashpad is intact too... Crazy.

What a shame, another one (3rd gen) bites the dust.

Looks like alot of parts can be salvaged and bring life for other 3rd gens.

Good to no one was hurt, and amazed to see how well the 3rd gen held up (that 300 is completely toasted).

Yeah, the 300's engineered crumple zones did their job well. Better the car fly apart than the driver! Also a good testimony to the 3rd gen's side collision impact strength in this particular accident.

And most important, as mentioned, nobody got hurt.