ok i replace my hinges on the rear hatch. its in same spot aS the ones we took off. i read tech articles and other threads but i cant get the rear deck lid spoiler to line up with the driver side spoiler... i took the 8 13 mm bolts off and removed the metal peice that bolts to the decklid.... and the deck lid wont move to let me align it... anybody know what to do? im stuck

 

nobody has an insit nor info????

 

I PM'd you the following:


hi there it is glued to the glass with the black urethane, dont be nice with it, rip it off the glass, it will come off
a dead blow rubber hammer will do it

make sure you disconnect the glass surround metal frame ends first

two small screws in each end of the deck plate

its real simple
i swapped my deck plate onto another glass and installed it all on the 82 in under a couple hours, from beginning to end even including the time it took to hack a coupel of the studs since they busted loose inside the plate and spun on me, had to weld new ones on it

make sure the hatch glass is aligned to the car body before you glue the deck plate down, now will be the time to align/correct it

mine was really horribly misaligned, the glass shop that replaced the glass years ago did it all wrong and not only was the glass misaligned but the deck plate was hanging past the end of the QP by about a 1/2"


i took my time aligning it all in steps and now it is 100% perfectly aligned

 

by prying on it wont break the glass? i loosend and removed the screws does metal trim gotta be off?

 

trim doesnt need to be off nope, just the ends that are screwed to the deck plate on the outer edges

you wont brake the glass by accident it is VERy thick and VERy strong

you would have to smack is VERy hard with a heavy metal object to break it

the plate will come off, be tough with it D


no worries

dont be afeared

smack the underside of the deck upwards from underneath

do the ends of it first

while pulling on it away from the glass

a long thin metal blade of some type jammed between the glass and the deck on the top side of the glass with a hammer will do alot to separate the glue

if its done in the cold air and not out in the baking sun then it wont want to re-stick itself so bad


i did mine on a real hot sunny day, it came apart pretty easily actually

but it wasnt the factory glue, it was a glass shop's glue

so it only had a single bead and wasnt very wide even

but of course you dont want to lay too much urethane down anyways, it will squeeze out all over and look bad

and when you get a tube of urethane get it from a REAL auto glass shop it is about 15 bucks a tube for caulking guns and make sure it is the HV variety it will say HV at the end of the part number of it on the tube, dont get the crap from NAPA etc it is crap i just foud that out when i put the quarter side glasses back into the 85 elky we are restoring right now, their HV urethane is crap horrible



when i re-set my hatch deck onto my glass i propped open the hatch with a 2x4 standing up in the storage area and it was just the right length needed to keep the glass up off the weatherstripping enough to be able ot keep the deck plate clear when setting the deck plate onto the glas,s so i could set it down as closely lined up as possible and the urethane allowed me ot fudge the plate around just enough to align it where it needed to be

i did it without any C clamps or anything to keep it in place while i put the stud nuts back on and tigthened them up

but i seem to be really talented at doing things by myself i can even remove and reinstall hoods and doors by myself even on these cars and other vehicles - i have taken apart so many cars and trucks and reassembled them that i have learned tricks over time, ppl dont believe it til they see it hehehe


good luck

 

I had no idea you could just rip the deck lid apart from the glass. I worked my *** off with a small variety of piano/guitar wires

 

The bolts aren't the only thing holding the decklid to the glass, there's a ton of really nasty black glue stuff, which the piano wire trick works on. Just take your time and pull slowly, it releases slowly, kind of like stretching chewing gum. There is also a tech article on how to do this:
https://www.thirdgen.org/hatchalign

 

I GOT THE DECKLID OFF!!! where did you aplly the sealer to? the decklid itself or the glass? also i have the glass resting on the strut arms... it dont sit flush to c where the fins line up how do i go about doin that so i can make sure the other side lines up as much as the side i taped and marked before?

 

also what kinda sealant can i use besides the window caulk?

 

i already explained everything about the urethane sealer you need to know above

go read

a big bead across the top side of the glass is how to do it, towards the top edge of the deck and down at the ends towards the end of the car

then lay the deck down on it

easy

dont forget to make sure the u-shaped rubber channel stays on the rear edge of the hatch glass it will fall off pretty easily

theres actually two of them

one is 7" long and the other is 29" long

there is also a pair of black plastic rectangle kind of shaped things at each deck end they stick on in place with the urethane they are like slider/scuff plates of sorts

dont forget them

its sorta kinda tricky

a little

use urethane to stick things in place

no such thing as being too messy

 

i already read bout the urethane, i was just in a snag wonderin how to make sure the hatch lines up with it not bein able to sit flat do to puttin the decklid on?

 

has anyone used caulk or other source of sealant besides the urethane sealant? if so what kind

 

I would imagine pretty much any kind of silicone caulk would work fine. Since it gets sandwiched between the glass and decklid, it's not really in any danger of coming loose. If I were doing it, I would probably just use a liberal amount of clear silicone caulk. I'd probably also try to get it as close to the front edge of the decklid as possible. That leaves less room for water/ice/snow/dirt to get in the gap there.

 

i attempted to do my decklid and failed because of them dam goofy rectangle shaped things that are attached to the decklid and slid on to glass... did you guys take them off and caulk where the old was behind them? i couldnt move my decklid to adjust cause they were set for old location... HELP lol thanks

 

you can lay it almost completely flat- shut the hatch all the way except a little bit so that the deck doesnt rest on the bumper stops and wont touch the top of the QP rain gutter at the taillights outer top corners


wood shim it


or whatever you need to use
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yes just stick them in place with urethane


dont have to be neat about it

too much urethane is better than too little


just make sure you get them stuck in place straight

 

:O

if you arent going to use the urethane then you better not evne try to do this, as you are wasting your time

do not use silicone for anything on the vehicle

urethane is not silicone

go get the urethane from the glass shop


silicone is for noobs who have no idea what silicone and urethane even are and how INSANELY different they are, and is for junk yard beaters and is very temporary and will cause you problems,
silicone is extremely different and does not seal the same way as urethane, urethane is a higher volume and way different sealing properties and is meant for sealing AUTO glass, not your fish aquarium or bathtub..


two totally different animals

i feel i am wasting my time trying to help here

no point in giving all the details needed to do this correctly when its just gonna be hack slapped together incorrectly

hmm

use the silicone then


some ppl you cant help i guess, and would rather learn the hard way



good luck!

 

i never said i was gonna hack anything! for you jumping to conclusions is only making you wanna think what im gna do. i asked for simple help and thats all i asked for. all i asked was how to configure them rectangle things and never asked how to hack it together. i wanted a general idea on how you did it ... i am using the uerthane and i messed up cause of them things... so for that thanks for yor insite, it helped in the long run

 

decklid is done and finished.. it wasnt so much difficult to remove and put on but it worked alot easier with two people, to align it and set it down on the urethane.