will the GFX from a late 80's car fit my 91'? I know the noses were changed, but I don't know how much. As far as I know the doors and rear bumper are the same so those parts should still fit.
Anone done this or seen it done?

 

Really, no one has this answer?

 

all the parts will fit but I think you'll have to drill new mounting holes and weld the old ones shut.

 

My car now has no gfx, so I guess I'd just need new holes.

 

Tmic87TPI gave you very bad information! It isn't just a simple yes or no answer. The front noses are very different The 85-90 noses have the ground effects molded right into the bumper as one piece, so they can't even be removed. The side panels can be swapped with the matching mounting hardware. I don't know if the rear can be swapped or not. They may have molded the rear ground effects into the bumper also, as they did on the later year camaros. The entire rear bumper assembly can be swapped from any year though. If you really wanted to, you can swap an entire front nose from an earlier car onto a 91/92 firebird too. However, you'll also need to get the matching headlight trim piece to match.

 

ahh man I forgot all about the front end... my bad

 

I havn't replied to this thread yet but I assumed by swapping the gfx from an earlier 3rd gen to a 91 he ment front and rear covers as well..

 

Since he only has 7 posts on the site, and because he's asking the question, I didn't want to assume that he had certain knowledge about 3rd gens and how they changed from year to year.

 

I knew the fronts had changed in 91. But was looking at my bumper, and the bottom looked very similar to the bottom of a 89-90 bumper w/o gfx. I guess if the front piece is just attached to the bumper I wont be able to make that swap. I'll just have to find a set of gfx from a 91 or 92.

 

Ok, GFX first showed up on these cars in 85. From 85-90 the gfx pieces are all the same. In 91-92 models they changed the front chin spoiler(Below front bumper cover) The side skirts and door filler panels were also changed. The rear bumper cover is indeed one piece and is very different in 91-92 models. The rear extension panels (On rear quarter panel, just behind rear wheel) were also changed. The only piece that wasnt changed on these cars from 85-92 was the front bumper cover. This info is for camaro models, though firebird models had similar changes. Hope this helps...

 

You would still need the matching front bumper for that too, they are different.
Now, what you could try is this... '84 and some '83 T/A's had GFX that were styled similar to the '82-'84 Z28 GFX. ALL of those pieces were completely separate, they attached to the regular T/A bumper covers. I'm sure you could get them to fit on your car, maybe with a little custom work, but it could be done.

 

This thread is maddening with its misinformation.

Ground effects technically showed up in 1983 on Daytona pace cars and were widely available on Trans Ams in 1984. I'm not sure about the Camaro side, but they were definitely around by 1984. Also he definitely owns a firebird so the Camaro info is irrelivant. The front bumper cover is entirely different between 85-90 and 91-92 model firebirds




Again, the 91-92 front bumper cover was very very VERY different than any of the earlier bumper covers. The 83 daytona and 84 aero package ground effects would never be close to mounting to a 91 front bumper cover. I'm positive that he can not get them to fit on his car with his original bumper. You'd be better off starting from scratch than trying to modify those ground effects to fit.

 

I do realize that the '91-'92 cover is different, but I also think it could be done without too much work. Yes, it would be easier to swap front covers, I do agree with that. I would want to do it just because nobody else has.

 

I was kinda under the impression the gfx on any of the firebird bumper covers were part of the bumper cover. Like those bumpers were totally different, not just added on to. And the the rest of the gfx were just something you could add on to the body.

 

That's odd... you say that from 85-90 were molded right into the bumpers, but in the front on the pass side, my GFX are starting to come undone and I can't seem to figure out how to get them to stay flush against the body.

 

The 83/84 firebird ground effects were totally separate and basically bolted onto the base model bumper covers. The 85-90 firebird ground effects were molded into the bumper cover. I don't know for sure about the 91-92 so i won't speak about them.


They are molded into the front bumper cover. There is an extension of the ground effects that is separate and bolts to the fender. Is this the piece that's coming loose on yours?
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Are you talking about firebirds? The 91-92 front bumper cover is so drastically different than say an 84 bumper cover that came with ground effects as separate pieces that I can't see it being even close.The 91-92 bumpers come to a sharp point in the middle with the corners being very rounded. The earlier cars have a point in the middle with almost square corners on each side. Some pictures would really help this thread

 

Here are a few pics to give you a better idea.

 

yeah, that's the extension piece I was talking about. the part of the ground effects in front of that is part of the urethane bumper cover (nose). If you look at an 84 T/A, the front ground effects is one continuous piece that wraps around the bottom of the nose all the way to the front wheel well so there is no vertical seam in the ground effects.

 

Yes, Firebirds. You bring up a good point with the corners though, I guess those areas would need the most attention to make it fit. Maybe someone could round up a couple nose shots of an early and late base Firebird?

 

Here ya go Jeremy to help illustrate your point...