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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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1983 ...... and 1/2??

I have a friend who has a 3rd gen z28, he knows only enough that he can put gas in a car and it goes. He is under the impression from the previous owner that it is an '83 1/2 ( ) model year, I have my doubts personally, so if it exists what would the tell tale cues be that set this one apart from any regular '83/'84? I found a site listing all years and their respective features, but the 1983 and 1/2 is conspicuously absent from record. is this just a rare care and little information is available regarding it's existence, or does it even exist at all? it has a crossfire injection 350 and is a base z28, has rear window louvers, T-tops with their shades intact.
But really......


DOES IT EXIST???????
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

the previous owner was probably referring to the month in 1983 the car was manufactured.

like my car is a 1986 trans am but was made in june of 1986 so technically you could say my car was made at 1986 1/2

probably said 1/2 to tell your friend it was made halfway through 1983

it wouldnt be referenced in any book besides gm's production line archives

to the rest of the world if it was made sometime in 1983 its just plainly a 1983 car

the worring over the 1983 1/2 is just over thinking the age of the car

just tell your friend if he needs parts just say its a 1983 camaro z28

hope this helps
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

1983 car could have been made in 1982 for the 1983 model year. Then what would you car it???
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

it all depends how picky or precise you wish to be.

like at a car show,

if your car was made for the 1983 model year, then you call it a 1983 car

but you can mention that it was manufactured in october of 1982. either way its still a 1983 car

this kind of precise info is usually ignored or not known unless you have a "rare" car and you go to auctions or car shows with it to give the entire history on the car to get the most money for it.


i mean i dont know everything but that is my 2 cents on the subject.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

Also it's a 305 unless someone swapped in a 350 as the 350 wasn't available again until 1987
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

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Also it's a 305 unless someone swapped in a 350 as the 350 wasn't available again until 1987
thats what i was thinkin. only vettes got the 350 crossfire right? was there ever a 350 crossfire in an fbody?
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

no, there wasn't a 350 available in a 3rd gen f-car until 1987.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

In 1986, there was a small amount of 350 irocs made.

https://www.thirdgen.org/1986-pontiac-firebird
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

A "D" vin makes is an 83. No halfsies. What is the vin?

No 350s
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

Originally Posted by Snikker
I have a friend who has a 3rd gen z28, he knows only enough that he can put gas in a car and it goes. He is under the impression from the previous owner that it is an '83 1/2 ( ) model year, I have my doubts personally, so if it exists what would the tell tale cues be that set this one apart from any regular '83/'84? I found a site listing all years and their respective features, but the 1983 and 1/2 is conspicuously absent from record. is this just a rare care and little information is available regarding it's existence, or does it even exist at all? it has a crossfire injection 350 and is a base z28, has rear window louvers, T-tops with their shades intact.
But really......


DOES IT EXIST???????
The production date will be on the door tag if the tag is still there. And like was already said the vin will tell you what year car GM considered it. Even though the next years models come out before the end of the year, unless it is a completely new model, it would just be considered the next years model. There was no huge change between 83-84 so trying to find info on a special 83-1/2 model might be tough.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

ohhh, my car is 89 and 1/2, 06/89

haha

that means my car is 6 months older then me!
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

Originally Posted by Firebat
In 1986, there was a small amount of 350 irocs made.

https://www.thirdgen.org/1986-pontiac-firebird
supposedly, although nobody's ever actually seen one.. thats why I didn't feel it was worth mentioning. Don't know where those production numbers actually came from but I do know it's never once been proven to be true. If you follow the link it even notes at the bottom that it was rumored that 50 test iroc 350's were built, none have ever been seen however. If the cars were actually built they were most likely destroyed shortly after by gm.

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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

Mine was built 4-88 so I've got an 88 1/3 Firebird, haha. Popballz I wish I had a car as old as me, but that would be going way back.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

well, my 86 bird, is actually a 85 and 3/4

yea, no 350's before 87, except for a handful of possible 86 irocs
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

i think your thinking of the half year production of the old mustangs, back when there were in fact 64and 1/2 cars, but they have never done something like that with the thirdgens, or the second gens either, and i possibly the first gen camaros, but to my knowledge it was mostly a ford thing anyway
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

Originally Posted by wulfgar the pen
i think your thinking of the half year production of the old mustangs, back when there were in fact 64and 1/2 cars, but they have never done something like that with the thirdgens, or the second gens either, and i possibly the first gen camaros, but to my knowledge it was mostly a ford thing anyway
There was the 70 1/2 Camaro, it had a split front bumper that only came on that model. The reason for the 1/2 is it started production late, feb/march of 1970 I think.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

My Trans Am was built in the 3rd week of January 1984, so it's either a 1984-3/8 (going by start of production in Sept. 1983) or if you go by calendar year it's a 1984-1/26th... or as I prefer to write it 1984.038461538 with the underlined part being a repeating decimal.

No thirdgen was ever designated as a half-year model and the original engine in a 1983 or 1984 f-body was not a 350.

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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Re: 1983 ...... and 1/2??

Originally Posted by John81
There was the 70 1/2 Camaro, it had a split front bumper that only came on that model. The reason for the 1/2 is it started production late, feb/march of 1970 I think.
Split bumper wasn't '70 specific, it could be had on any of the chrome bumper years where the RS was available. '70-72 I beleive. in '73 RS changed to LT and the split bumper was dropped.

The '70 is still a '70... its just sometimes refered to as a '70.5 because it was introduced very late in the '70 model year... about 6 or 8 mos late or something.
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