so what ive read in previous posts.... correct me if im wrong or things have changed.

ebay projector headlights are fake for the part.

and real projector headlights either cost a fortune or you gota fabricate to work for your car?

im trying to see if i can get a pair for my 91-92 style trans am headlights.

and what happens for high beam? does it have it? dumb question maybe but i dunno anything about these headlights. just like the look of it


so if anyone has any links to real projector headlights for 91-92 trans ams or any info let me know.


thanks

 

they exist but they cost 1000 dollars the 4x6 ones for the camaro at least.

 

wrong-o-mundo. do those if you want but...

half the cost, fabricate ones yourself. 400-500

high beams:

2 headlamp system (f-birds): use bixenon projectors, a soleniod flips the cutoff shield inside the projector allowign more light to shoot up and down the road, almost like the equivalent of a dual filament headlight bulb on a 2 headlamp system

4 headlamp system (maro's) can use bixenon's since the lows are dual filament but easier to just do regualr low beam projector and keep the 2 middle lights as highs.

i'll edit with pics

 

Im guessing you meant cant or shouldnt, more like it.Some of you guys think you need 4 HIDs.Two for hi, two for lo.This is unneccessary.

As stated above:

In a bi-xenon projector(2 projectors,meaning both hi/lo are incorporated).The hi-beam is handled by a solenoid in the projector that flips down.Thereby unblocking the HID lamps & allowing all the light out.

There is no 2nd HID lamp for the hi beam.The hi-beam circuit(wires) is connected to the solenoid.So when you switch on the hi-beams, the circuit powers the solenoid, NOT another HID lamp.

For vehicles with seperate hi beams(4 headlamps).Even when the lo-beam is a projector(single xenon).The hi-beam is not HID & seldom a projector.This is because you loose the "flash" function with HIDs.So the hi beam is left as an incandescent system.Its also cheaper to manufacture this way.

You can do it for less than $1000.

 

too rich for my blood. i just like the look. and trying to be unique. and i dont like the blue light looking headlights a nice white is better than yellowish. but teh proejctor lights just look badass.

o well

 

one question guys.

if i found a set at a junk yard cheap to fabricate. what parts do i need. just the projector module it self? any harness or connectors or whatelse?

 

If its an HID system, you'll want as much of if as possible(harness,lamps,ballast) & of course the projectors.Only the porjector itself is required, but you can also take the shroud.Though i doubt it will look right in the f-body style housings.

An HID system from a salvage yard is probably gonna cost you a pretty penny.So its still gonna be "too rich for your blood".Better off pieceing it together here & there.

 

maybe i didnt word it correctly.

i meant that in our cars the outside lights have both low and high beam terminals, while the inside lights only have high beam terminals

so a bixenon projector for the outside lights, with halogens in the middle would in theory be the correct conversion.

i.e. on the new (06-current) lexus IS-series with the hid option, the projectors are bixenon, with regular halogens in the middle also. the solenoid does not flip all the way, i would guesstimate about halfway

 

Nope, incorrect.

You do NOT need a bi xenon projector for the camaro.A single xenon projector will do the job fine.

Whats with wanting two hi beams or two lo beams(per side).Your theory implies a system with 4 hi-beams!Whats the advantage?If your thinking more/better lighting, feel free, but the single xenon projector will output far better by itself.

If your that hard up for running a bi-xenon projector in the camaros.Then just leave the hi beam out(or remove it alltogether).The bi-xenon will do a better job.If your car already has the hi/lo in one lamp(firebirds).This is the way to go, but since the camaro has a seperate hi-beam.Its simpler to just leave that way.

I have no hi beam(bi-xenon) projector on my car & the xenarc system doesnt modify the headlight wiring.Only the lo beam is HID, the xenarcs hi beam circuit uses a H9 lamp.All i did was replace the reflector lamp with a projector, nothing else.

With the projector installed the hi beam is barley noticeable when switched on.An HID lamp inplace of the H9 would just make the light brighter & create glare, thus blinding oncoming traffic.

Its difficult enough modifying the lights as is, why complicate it more.Keep it simple!

Not all bi xenon projectors flip the cutoff shield all the way down.The E55s in my bike dont.This is due to DOT regulations, again this is to not blind oncoming traffic.Has nothing to do with whatever other lamps are on the vehicle.

 

Need and want are two different things. You didn't need LED lights and HIDs at all. But there are four housing available on the front of a Camaro, why not take advantage of them? If my bird had four housings, they'd get four bixenon projectors. Overkill? Yes! I'm not going to blind anyone with the light directed correctly and it just means my night vision is that much better.

I think the advantage is fairly obvious. More light directed in the correct place. How does one xenon capsule/projector output better alone? Care to elaborate? Having the Bixenon also stresses the capsules less if you're a frequent "flash-to-pass" type of person because you're not flicking the capsules on and off.

The high beam is barely noticable because it's a halogen that is directed everywhere. Yes, the H9 bulb puts out a hell of a lot more light than even an upgraded H4 bulb, but it's output is being thrown everywhere, the concentration is less. If you have proper projectors then there will be no glare.



What's wrong with wanting a bixenon low/high and another high beam?

 

 

Nobody is arguing that Halogens are better than HIDs. Far from it. But from the simpler fact that HIDs requite less wattage, having a second pair isn't any greater strain on a properly wired system.

I'd hardly compare it to extra wings. That's a fairly extreme example. Wings/louvers/scoops aren't functional but for a miniscule amount of driving time where as more light would be functional EVERYTIME IT GOT DARK.

Again, I wasn't arguing that Halogens were better than HIDs. I know they aren't. And your last line seems to agree with me wanting more lights? Two pairs of HIDs is better, right?

I mean that on higher end cars like BMWs that run Bixenon HIDs, a lot of them use a separate halogen bulb for flashing, not just high beams. An e46 330ci for example; you pull back on the stalk and a regular Halogen H7 lights up. It doesn't stay on, it's on a momentary switch for flashing. Where as if you push the stalk forward it activates the high beam function of the HID. Flicking an HID capsule on and off repetitively is bad. Same as doing it to flourescent lights at home. BMW knows this.

I wasn't refering to a freeform housing HID, definitely a projector setup. The wiring wouldn't be difficult at all with 4 bixenons. Split the low beam switched power to four projectors and split the high beam switched to the shutter 'noid.

Obviously the cost is the major factor here. Most drivers are urban and high beam usage is fairly limited. Cost vs diminishing returns seems, at least to me, to be biggest reason OEMs aren't using a dual setup. One bixenon is just fine. Bean counters won out.

Oh I have a firebird so unless I use some of those tiny 50mm Hella HIDs I'm stuck with just one pair of bixenons. But I'm sure that makes you happy.