I was checking evilbay the other day and came across this manual. I tried to buy it, but work got in the way. I have never seen another one, and now I am looking to find one. Stopped at my local dealership and struck out there. I wanted to take it apart, scan it and convert to a searchable PDF. I service production print systems and computers so I have access to all the stuff needed. There is a number on it that looks like 22002.63-1. If anyone has info on one of these let me know. Thanks.

never heard of that one before

Yes. I would like to see it also

i bought this on ebay what would you guys like to know?

nice find. i think you may start getting a LOT of PM's on the contents within

ha yea cost me like 34bucks in the end. ive already skimmed through. gm did some weird things to test for leaks.

EX:
the dollar test

take a dollar bill and slide it between the window with the door shut and if the bill can be pulled through too easily it could indicate a spot where water could get in.

I think copyfixr wants to know if he can borrow it.

on my days off ill try to scan the pages.

ya that would be great!! i would love to know more of whats in it too.

ill let you guys know. its basically alot of common sense and some stuff we might not know. but almost everystep or tip has you taking alot apart so you can adjust pieces into place. and then shows how to test your progress.

Everything, young Skywalker--
Share the Force!!

if i can somehow make it into a pdf file or i dont know i'll ask teh moderators to see if i can post all 47pages in the tech article or something. or sticky this thread once its attached

So you were the one that got it. I'm glad it's someone from here so it will be put to good use and the info will be shared. If you need help with the scanning or converting, let me know. I do have the ability to make these if I had the original.

yea sorry to outbid you. i saw another member bought one for 15 a week or so ago so they are out there.

i have a scanner so ill let you know if i run into issues. thanks

Hey, no reason to feel bad man. That's how it goes some times.

does anyone have recommendations for what to use to lubricate the door/window rubber seals (and reduce squeaking)?

I have had good luck with pure silicon spray. Windows work real nice after.

subscribe!Great find!

WOW that's gotta be RIDICULOUSLY rare! Never even knew that existed. Wonder if there's any new stuff in there that we haven't tried.

Good find!

i found this site and its basicaly the same thing as the camaro and firebird manual in a way. its for fieros but u can get a good idea here. http://www.fierottop.com/waterleak/ there is lots of good info on possible leak areas, t-top adjustments, door glass adjustments, and correct operation and maintenace tips. i know its not the one we are all waiting on but hopefully some of u can find this useful? i still want to see the original camaro and firebird manual thou.
it also says that u should use 100% silicone spray monthly on rubber seals

ya sorry for the wait guys, i work nights and sleep during the day with random days off i will try to get this to u by next week. its 47pages long and will take a while to scan.

Pate thanks for the link. Good stuff on there. the 100% silicon spray works good. I have a buddy that's a mechanic and he told me about it years ago. A little in the window tracks makes them go up and down real nice.

Bobby, you gotta work. I live in North Dakota so it's not Camaro weather yet. :-)

[quote=copyfixr;4850707]Pate thanks for the link. Good stuff on there. the 100% silicon spray works good. I have a buddy that's a mechanic and he told me about it years ago. A little in the window tracks makes them go up and down real nice. quote]
hey no problem. im just trying to do my part on here too. i know ive gotten lots of good advice from everyone on here and want to give a little back.

Nice find ! This is why I like this site, SO much useful information to help keep these 3rd gens on the road (as well as helpful people out there who love these cars)

Just curious,but did the 4th generation cars have T-Top leaks too or had all the flaws been worked out by then?

My third gen t-tops don't leak,so I'm lucky,I guess they improved them as they got into the 90's.

you all just need to be patient alil while longer sry for the wait

Well..First I would want to hear from Bobby if it's worth having a copy. Does it have good information...fixes ?...I wonder how GM T-Tops compare to C&C T-tops for sealing ?

Sorry guys...I should have read the remaining threads. I doubt if it would help mine since they are C&C T-tops..

It looks like there are a few of these floating around. Just scored one off evilbay for $9 shipped! It's coming from Vancouver BC, so it may take a little while to get to Fargo, ND but that's ok. It's not really t-top weather here yet anyway.

just wanted to let u guys know i got my scanner cooking and half of the manual is copied.

copyfixer mentioned to me he has the equipment to make acutal manuals out of these copied images. i guess for a small fee he can mail you actual manuals but idk

its going to be like 40 something images so i'll see if i can make a PDF file out of it

Aaaand I'm going to subscribe to this thread.

That manual may not be the most useful thing to an F-body owner, but it will have it's moments, I'm sure! I totally would love a PDF copy of that bad boy!

i sent a word document with all the scans on it to copyfixr who is going to see if he can make a pdf file and printed copies.

What catergory did you guys find this in?

84 1LE, are you referring to an evilbay category? I found it by accident doing a 82-92 Camaro search and weeding through all the results. I have found some decent stuff doing this that is maybe listed incorrectly or labeled wrong.

Yeah, thats what i meant.Figured it would be a odd find.Did you type search on ebaymotors or just ebay?

Just bought a brand new OER t-top and door seal kit, so this'll come in handy in keeping them fresh.

I got my copy in the mail today. Picked one up of Evilbay for $10 shipped. Went in to work and took the copy Bobby sent me and scanned mine and mixed it to get the best results. It has been cleaned up, indexed and made searchable. Want to get input from a moderator to see how I can get this sucker up on here for everyone.

Outstanding, and thanks again. Get a paypal so people can donate to you for your efforts.

I just did a search on eBay. It really depends on how it's listed. No need to donate anything. I have learned so much from this site I just want to give back a little. It was easy to get the manual electronic. I have access to high dollar equipment. I fix it for a living. Just waiting for a mod to get back to me on the best way to get it up here.

I hear ya on that, I've learned a lot here too. If you ever want any info regarding H.I.D. installs on these cars pm me, as I dont want to clutter this thread with that info lol.

If you want you can send it to me and I'll throw it up on my Webserver.

OK guys here is a link to the Manual so you can check it out, cuddos to Mark for the great work!!!

http://www.kt-s.net/media/T-Top%20Wa...k%20Manual.pdf

You guys are awesome, thank you.

No problem. This place in amazing. Where else can a guy sit in his sweat pants drinking coffee in Fargo ND, send a document to someone in Switzerland to post up here for everyone to use! The car I have is for my son. we bought it before he got his license. He was able to drive it last fall before the snow started. Now we have to kick it into high gear and get some work done to it. Just a V6 Sport Coupe, t-tops is the only option. No rust, no dents and runs pretty good for $800.

Funny, I'm sitting here in my sweat pants, also drinking a coffee...... But I'm in NY. Just thought that was weird haha.

Thank you both for what you have done. No more soggy bottom driving for me! I really do appreciate it. You have both really helped me out.

haha also in my sweats and received the file and uploaded it Gotta love TGO and the Internet

Thanks!
The main source of water getting into my IROC-Z seems to be between the glass top locking pins to the rear. I'm guessing that as my body flexes slightly, it's moving around a little.
SFCs are on the list...

Link would not work on my windows 7 computer.

edit: worked on my xp computer, weird.