Thought I saw orange peel in the black, maybe it's just the water.

 

no ur right,i PROBLY woulda left them the same colour as the rest of the car,BUT i decided to do them black,just like the stripes,cuz when i did it the first time when the car was blue,the driver side light was a darker blue,cuz it had to be replaced.it was also red before,and my dad just sprayed over it with a cheapass spray can,and there was also overspray and some of the red was visible.he got into a little fender bender when i was about 9.yes its a family car my mom bought brand new in 88 and it was sitting for 2 years.summer of 2010 i started it up(it didnt start then)and she didnt want it cuz she had no use for it,she so gave it to me.i dont consider myself spoiled one bit cuz i do all the work for it,and spent my own hard earned money on it.im thankful everyday that i have one.anyways i decided to do the lights black a second time cuz i thought it actually looked pretty cool.kinda looks like the eyes of the car haha

 

ya it was defs the water.it had been sitting in the dusty garage for 2 weeks before i took it out for pics.i just rinsed it quickly cuz of all the dust on it,woulda made the pics look like s h i t

 

It sure looks like a orange with all that peel.

 

but it doesnt have any peel wutsoever lol

 

That's not orange peel ?

 

no no absolutely not.if u read all of the above comments,youll see that its probly just the water.i rinsed it before the pics cuz it was dusty and woulda made the pics look like ****.this project took 4 months lol i prepped it properly and everything.which pics looks like it has the peel?

 

not too bad looking, now you need to upgrade the 2.8

 

thx man! and ya on the very first post of this thread i made a little list of all the performance parts i hope to get by january or so.i can get it to about 220hp.u probes know that the gta's came with 220hp stock.that really isnt bad imo.only thing is my tranny is automatic lol but w e there r pros and cons to both trannys

 

The thing has orange peel, whether you know what it is or not.

Water and dust don't create that effect.


It will certainly not have 220 with the parts you listed. It'll have about 160 with those mods, and you'll still be severely lacking in the torque department.

 

im not stupid,i know wut orange peel is.heres wut happened.i finally finished the paint job.it sat in the garage for 2 weeks.i drove it out and hosed it down to get the dust off,cuz if it had dust on it it woulda made the pics look like ****.i know it has no peel at ALL.and just a whole new exhaust system alone will get it past 160.if i have time ill take it to a dyno and let u guys know of the results.its currently at about 140hp.it was 135 before i added the muffler and air filter.140 is just a guess but ya.and besides a super or turbo charger,wut else do u think i should do to give it more hp?

 

oh and besides an engine swap.if u could tell me wut u think without counting a swap,turbo charger or super charger thatd be cool cuz theres no way im doing any of those lol

 

i can see the peel even on my phone. you may say theres no peel, but nothing would make the pics look like that besides peel. you need to give it a good wetsand and buff to get rid of it.

 

i like it im painting my 91 vert diamond white right before xmas for my xmas present to my self lol

 

k thx,if it had peel i hadnt known how to deal with it but if i decide to paint something else in the future and it has peel,ill try that.im guessing u cant do it that hard cuz itd just strip right off.however i swear on my car that there is NO PEEL.im done trying to convince u guys.it is just water,and idk y u guys think id lie.i took a really good look at all the pics and i think u guys r talking about the stripes on the hood.it is just water.well if u r talking bout that area,look at the last pic of it when its in the garage,its dry,therefore nothing on it.jesus im almost tempted to take more pics of it when its dry,just to convince everyone if i havent already.

 

haha thx dude.and ya white sounds pretty cool actually i like that.i like iroc-z's that came in arctic white and that r still really glossy it looks really nice.there is one that drives around my neighbourhood in the summertime its in mint condition

 

i used to work in a body shop for a living. thats orange peel. you may not think it is, but it is. i can see it on the stripes, the headlight doors and the everywhere else. water doesnt look like that.

to get rid of it, you wet sand with 1500-2000 grit paper then buff it with a compound and foam buffing pad. once you do that it should look like glass.

 

It needs a final sanding and a good buffing still for sure. That will help get rid of all that "Not orange peel".

to each their own.....

 

yea, orange peel isnt a big deal, and not hard to get rid of.

 

Haha I agree. The only place I noticed the "not orange peel" was the headlight doors, but I don't know paint too well. Whether its orange peel or not, it could use some final color sanding and buffing.

 

The fact that the reflection is not a mirror image shows the orange peel. As others have said, this is fixable by wetsanding and buffing. End of story. Also the pic you posted of the headlight cover of the crackly reflection again shows orange peel. No orange peel is a perfectly smooth reflection.

 

You're not going to gain 20hp because the current exhaust is not restrictive on a little 2.8. You might see those kind of gains on a 350, but not your 2.8. There is no real way to gain power on that unless you really tear into it, or add forced induction.

It has peel too, doesn't matter how you prepped it, or the quality of the paint. It's the sprayer that determines whether it has peel or not. Even professionals leave a tiny bit of orange peel, it is taken out with sanding.

 

They only money you should spend on a 2.8 is in gas and oil !!

 

or plugs/wires and other routine upkeep items...

 

Ok thx for the comments guys

 

Ok thx.would u recommend any compounds??

 

I actually like the orange compared to the blue you had. Also like that you made the stripes a bit thinner.

Like someone else mentioned a 1/4" pinstripe would do wonders for the look of the stripes.

Not a fan of roof stripes, but that personal opinion.

Post pictures when you sand the orange peel off. You may think it looks good now, but it'll be like night and day when you buff it. Looks pretty good.

 

thx a lot.ya i thought the stripes were a bit wide the first time so i narrowed it by a few inches.u wont notice,but i made the orange line in the middle about a quarter inch thicker as well.i wasnt planning on sanding and buffing but i think everyone here is starting to convince me...

 

TO EVERYONE ABOUT THE WHOLE ORANGE PEEL THING:my apologies haha i thought orange peel was ONLY that reaction when it bubbles up,or lifts,cuz u didnt use wax and grease removal.thing is i DID prep it properly,so idk wut u guys were thinking at first.scottmoyer said it is any painted surface that doesnt look like a mirror,so now i can totally see that.it does look good in some places,but yes,others have peel on it.i cleaned the gun properly,but it would sometimes "skip"on me and that really rattled me,im sure u can understand.but w e i guess u all have convinced me to re sand and buff it.i will put more pics for u so u can see the differences.can anyone recommend any compounds?

 

i already have the foam pads,and meguiars car polish but i tried the polish in a small area and it made it look a lot worse.it made it look really faded.i may have done it incorrectly,but if anyone can recommend any compounds that would be awesome.

 

the wet sand removes the peel, the polish just makes the clear shiney again. a fine cut compound followed by a finishing glaze should be fine.

 

k sweet thx

 

A lot of body shops will use 3M brand compounds with a wool pad after sanding then use the 3M polish with a foam pad finished by a good wax. That could look like glass if you are careful with the compounds and overall buffing.

 

aight thx

 

Lose the house speaker man. You shoulda have left it Maui blue since its a rarer color. Looks like you need to do some serious wet sanding.

 

all i want to know is who was waiting outside ur house to take a picture of u throwing dueces getting into ur car.... or was that staged.... how was that burnout? I didnt think a 2.8 could do burnout..... nice tail pipes tho

 

 

could you post your engine pics up in the history and resteration under thread/pics of stock engines.please take pics of sections and this overall shot.close up of egr area and canister.thanks Bobby Suth

 

Did you get rid of the orange peel yet?

 

That would then bring out a much clearer and brighter shine.

Everyone has there own opionion about the color but it just needs to suit you. I personally would have made the black stripes a little narrower, but it does not have to please me does it? I am undecided about the black headlight doors. I personally like it with out a stripe down the side but I do not follow the main stream either.

Overall it looks good.

 

those headlights are an eyesore in black, id make those orange and without the pinstripes the stripes look unfinished..orange headlights and pinstripes (at least on the outside) will make that car look much nicer. imo of course..do whatever you like its ur car!

 

In your first post you said you were going to try to go with true dual exhaust on your 2.8?? I hope you're going with 2 or 2.5 inch exhaust to the muffler then expanding to your 3" I would stick with at most 2.5 and smaller would be better. If you go to 3" you wont create enough back pressure on your manifolds/headers to allow the car to run alright. I was thinking of putting 3" true dual on my 350 but it would have been too much. Ended up going 2.5" headers to true dual with no cross over pipes. Super 44's right under the back seats with exhaust tips curling right under the rear axle. Looks hella sweet. I have just enough air flow to make the mufflers give off a slight whistle like as though I had a turbo. Changing the air flow through your mufflers will also change how they sound. Pushing a small volume of air through a huge hole will make the car sound a tad lazy. Pushing the same volume through a smaller hole will create a force instance making the sound of the exhaust pushing through your muffler.

I know I didn't make that sound very technical or anything haha but meh.. not much sense in getting all technical...


The only other issue is not to go too small... you'll now allow enough air flow. You'll have to check what your heads are and how much air flow through the exhaust ports.

 

also.. dont worry about mistakes... whether you think you made them or not.. Take criticism from people on this board with relish!!! A lot of people here have done what you've done time and time again and know from experience whats up. Take me for instance.... When I got my car painted a few years ago, I got ripped off big time. So I took it to a friend who actually painted the car. He painted it in his house garage and after a couple days I went over and started armoralling all the plastic pieces for the trunk area to put back in the car.(this was on a Saturday) Sunday the guy went back out to his garage and decided he didn't like how the paint job turned out so he went to coat it again. Needless to say from about mid way down the doors to the back of the car was covered in fish eye due to the silicone particles in the armorall!!!! Lesson learned.. I had to wet sand a LOT of paint off of the car but was able to get most of it. Can still see some fish eye in the top back quarter panels. In such a bad spot too cause every time you get in the car you see them!

 

i like orange , i'm thinking about painting mine orange also

 

I was gunna say I like it. I was. I like that it looks like a dirt track car. I like steelies. I want some for my car. I like orange. I like it.....until I saw the house speaker. C'mon dude, thats the definition of ghetto, especially with a clean looking car.... Ugh.

 

Ya I know I admitted earlier it's ghetto.I blew my stock speaks a while ago and just put the box in.I'm getting a set of 6x9's to replace the stock ones,and I already have a 10inch sub in the bottom part it'll be a good sound system

 

I know the blue was really nice but I decided to paint and fix the thing cuz it had a good amount of rust

 

Ya for the dual exhaust I've decided to go with 2 inch pipes with an h pipe high flow cats and flowmaster super 10's thx for ur advice.and that painting story...ahh sounds like it was a pain

 

Oh haha well if ur talking bout the pic I think u r,that's actually outside my skool and nah it wasn't staged it was the last week or something and this kid was going around taking random pics for a Facebook album and just took a pic of me while I was leaving.and the burnout wasn't bad I did the one were u hold the brake and floor it at the same time

 

Trim and pinstripes and just all those extra lines apparently make things look less bulky and I like it looking bulky I think I may have mentioned that can't remember tho.and as for the black lights,I just think it makes it look more badass and geed.especially if ur in front of the car from a distance and I'm driving towards u it looks cool cuz no other car has that look