How Hard Would It Be To Do This?
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How Hard Would It Be To Do This?
I was browsing camaro images on google, and came across this;
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How Hard would this be to do? Cost? Etc?
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How Hard would this be to do? Cost? Etc?
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Get your hands on a Daytona hood, cut out the sections underneath the louvers and cut some decent plexi/lexan panels to match. Then all you gotta do is fabricate a gasket and fasten them down.
Me? IF I were to do something like this I'd probably try to source panels made from glass instead of plexi/lexan.
Me? IF I were to do something like this I'd probably try to source panels made from glass instead of plexi/lexan.
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Yea. I agree on the glass vs. plexi/lexan because I am sure that road dirt/sand would rather easily and rather quickly scratch the plexi to hell.
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...why would you do glass, if I may ask? It'd be harder to shape, harder to drill holes to fasten without shattering, and it'd weigh more... would plexi really scratch that easily?
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Definitely due to the scratching effect of the road dirt. as stated above. IF I were to use plexi, then I would have to make some kind of cover for driving, and take them off at shows, etc.
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Perhaps I might do something similar to a Cowl or Big Block hood, Rather than the Daytona. I seem to only be able to find bolt on versions of it.
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Yeah glass is a bit heavier, but we're not talking a windshield or hatch glass here. The difference would be negligible.
If taking the glass route, You'd probably have to have a specialty or fab shop do it up for you IE take them a louver and tell them you want it cut in that shape and where to drill the holes.
I'm sure they sell glass cutters, but I've never dabbled with them before. I HAVE however, had experience with drilling holes in glass (Don't ask me what for unless you want me to make your day). All it takes is a glass drillbit, some running water, patience and a delicate hand.
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Re: How Hard Would It Be To Do This?
No idea. I believe it was around $5 - $10 for the bit. You'd also need the glass cutter and some glass, and I have no clue how much those go for.
You're also gonna need a pretty fresh engine bay or you're gonna look like a tool with this mod.
You're also gonna need a pretty fresh engine bay or you're gonna look like a tool with this mod.
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glass cutters are a couple bucks at a home supply store or hobby shop. cutting glass isnt easy but if you take your time and do it right you can get a clean break (you dont cut it, you score it and then break it along the score line). you need a steady hand and patience. id personally go with a scratch resistant lexan instead of glass. theres a few companies that make scratch resistance lexan. it holds up better on road use, but isnt scratch proof.
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Glass isn't scratch proof either. I would like to also say that I intend on doing some engine dress up, and would like to know where to start.
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glass is a lot harder to scratch from road debris though. the scratch resistant lexan isnt as hard to scratch, but harder than normal plexi or untreated lexan.
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Why wouldn't you want to use poly-carbonate? Just curious.
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I'm glad to see people are stealing my ideas and work and copying it.
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Re: How Hard Would It Be To Do This?
There is a material that doesent scratch as easy as poly-carbonate and it is also much more durable, it doesnt cost much more than the poly-carbonate.
I dont remember what the name of that "glass" is but if i see it i can tell you.
I know that they sell it around here to excavators and such things.
I dont remember what the name of that "glass" is but if i see it i can tell you.
I know that they sell it around here to excavators and such things.
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Re: How Hard Would It Be To Do This?
lexan is one form of poly carbonate. I was thinking of a similar material called polymethyl-methacrylate (acrylic).
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It's only a compliment when it's done right, the proper way so it looks right, many have tried since I invented this hood years ago and all have failed, some worse then others. The picture above is one of the better attempts, even tho it's still just screwed into the hood. I mean c'mon, put some effort in it.
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I deff wouldnt use that hood to start with. (i'm just not a fan)
Id use/make a stock 86-7 ish carbon fiber/ fiberglass hood .
Neatly cut the holes a half inch smaller than the than the louver.
Id make the the new covers out of scratch resistant lexan and heat the sides after cutting so they are nice an smooth.
I wouldn't screw them down either.
I'd use a 1/16inch thick bead of windshield urethane on the backside so it only shows a nice even half inch wide strip of black urethane around it.
You could use glass but its a pain to work with (for this app), rocks will scratch/break it and you would want to use safety glass. Just incase. My dad has owned a stained glass studio since I was a kid and I've been around glass since.
Id use/make a stock 86-7 ish carbon fiber/ fiberglass hood .
Neatly cut the holes a half inch smaller than the than the louver.
Id make the the new covers out of scratch resistant lexan and heat the sides after cutting so they are nice an smooth.
I wouldn't screw them down either.
I'd use a 1/16inch thick bead of windshield urethane on the backside so it only shows a nice even half inch wide strip of black urethane around it.
You could use glass but its a pain to work with (for this app), rocks will scratch/break it and you would want to use safety glass. Just incase. My dad has owned a stained glass studio since I was a kid and I've been around glass since.
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It's only a compliment when it's done right, the proper way so it looks right, many have tried since I invented this hood years ago and all have failed, some worse then others. The picture above is one of the better attempts, even tho it's still just screwed into the hood. I mean c'mon, put some effort in it.
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You can find the thread of my build on the forum. I just don't get why people gotta copy, be original come up with your own ideas.
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I wouldn't use glass to begin with. First off, the difficulty in fabbing it is pretty steep. Secondly, you'll want some form of spalling shield on the motor side of the glass which means you're buying some form of laminated glass that is just as costly as the more advanced lexans out there. The most common scratch resistant lexan I've used is MR-10 lexan. Unless you're using MR-10 in a windshield application & DD (think use of wipers fairly regular here), MR-10 is pretty good.
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Perpsex is fine.
The windscreens of small planes are perspex. They typically fly around at 150 miles an hour and last for more than 10 years.
The windscreens of small planes are perspex. They typically fly around at 150 miles an hour and last for more than 10 years.
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Look at the zr1, then look at my hood, does it look like a copy? No, now look at mine and look at the one on top, does it look like a copy, yes. That's all.
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you do something unique and cool and of course people are gonna copy it. and just because you were the first to do a see through hood on a 3rd gen doesnt mean it hasnt been done a thousand times before on other cars. you just took someone elses idea and made it your own. Supreme Member
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I don't mind if people try to use my idea and modify it and make it their own, but a carbon copy is a bit too much IMO, and if you are doing that, then make it look as good if not better then I did, evolving the mod into a better one, not hack jobs like I've seen and certainly not using screws to attach it to the hood, you get what I'm saying...
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Maybe you should sue Chevrolet for stealing YOUR idea & building the ZR1 with it?
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Actually, you already said that you copied the idea from them.....
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I don't mind if people try to use my idea and modify it and make it their own, but a carbon copy is a bit too much IMO, and if you are doing that, then make it look as good if not better then I did, evolving the mod into a better one, not hack jobs like I've seen and certainly not using screws to attach it to the hood, you get what I'm saying...
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Clear see thru hoods are a brand new idea.. Oldsmobile had TEN different "see-thru" hoods available between 1949 and 1953.
1949 Olds see thru hood. Granted this was a display unit but not a "new" idea by any strech..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hood-Oldsmob...sories&vxp=mtr
1949 Olds see thru hood. Granted this was a display unit but not a "new" idea by any strech..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hood-Oldsmob...sories&vxp=mtr
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Granted this was a display unit but not a "new" idea by any strech...

Definitely not a new idea, but Charged gets the credit for that particular hood though...
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ive seen the see thru car pic before. i like it.
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He did say in the original thread that there is a TM with a circle around it. That means he did patent it.
I had not seen this before now but I do like it. I gave a similar idea to a friend when he was thinking of getting another hood for his Z28. However I had not thought of this.
To Charged350 I give you a big thumbs up on the original.
I had not seen this before now but I do like it. I gave a similar idea to a friend when he was thinking of getting another hood for his Z28. However I had not thought of this.
To Charged350 I give you a big thumbs up on the original.
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Then file a lawsuit lol
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He wants us to believe that he already sued GM, won & GM paid him.
I wanna see his Patent or Trademark for the hood.
I wanna see his Patent or Trademark for the hood.
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