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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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Oh Hail No!!

the hail destroyed my car and i was wandering of anyone would be willing to post a few good sites where i can look for hoods, fender, ect. your help would be much obliged.

i was able to get some more pics but the car is dirty and there is cloud cover so the dents and stuff wont show well. the scratches are from a tree branch that fell and hit the front of the hood. when i get the car washed ill take some more and switch them out.











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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 09:39 PM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 10:48 PM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

ill get em up as soon as i can. its a 1987 standard model, if that helps.
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 12:05 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

Damn man sorry to hear that, we got nothing at all up north... but I saw pics of all the **** to the east and south. Im bout to get better insurance in case we get hit again. have you tried ebay? They have good deals on parts sometimes. Not sure where to get aftermarket sruff. Maybe rockauto.com
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 02:34 AM
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Damn, That sucks. We got hit in aurora but nothing like the springs . Sorry to hear about the damage.
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 04:35 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

Sorry to hear. I cringe everytime I hear the word (hail) in the forecast. Try here.

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/exterior.aspx
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 04:43 AM
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you can try these guys they got some body parts
http://www.classicindustries.com/camaro/parts/
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

Is it beyond PDR (paintless dent removal)? I've had good luck with that in the past, as long as the paint's not chipped or gouged. That would save you from a lot of fit/finish headaches involved with replacing panels.
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 10:47 AM
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try the classifieds here local junkyards repop parts never fit right

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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 11:32 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

Originally Posted by Serge53
the hail destroyed my car and i was wandering of anyone would be willing to post a few good sites where i can look for hoods, fender, ect. your help would be much obliged.
www.hawksthirdgenparts.com
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

mine got hailed out in 1998-got busted windshield,
dings,several good bruises in SMC hood,a few good
dents in roof,and rear louvers pounded good
Some hammer and dolly work took care of most of the
dents and dings,but a couple were stretched and neede
shrank back with propane torch.
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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the PDR is going to cost 2500 but if i strip it, fix it, and repaint it will only cost 1500. the paint also got chipped to hell, im getting pic soon. the insurance wont cover the cheaper repair and will total it with the 2500 repair so in going to fix it myself. thank you for the links you all have been very helpful.
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

That doesn't make sense. You think you can replace body panels and get a repaint for $1500? Maybe with a Maaco paint job. And if you got a quote for $2500 for PDR, then the car probably is totaled. You said the car got trashed, yet you show us pictures that show one door dent and a few scratches. I don't see it and your thread doesn't make much sense.
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 09:20 PM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

^^ i would like to ask you not to be a dick please. it would only let me upload 3 pics, that's only some of the damage. there is extensive hail dents on the hood and roof. if you know how to load more pics and would tell me i would be glad to post more to satisfy you your trollness *bows*.
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

Talk about being a dick! You're post doesn't make sense that you can replace panels and repaint for a thousand less than doing PDR. I do PDR, so I'm very familiar with pricing. To get to that price with PDR, then this car is trashed! At that price, it would be considered totaled.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 12:16 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

i apologies if i was but a moderator should be more tactful when they reply to a post instead of sounding as arrogant as you did. anyway back on subject. i was told the pdr would be 2500, and it was at their place. they also said it would be 6500 to strip and paint. so i went to maco because i live off of a tight budget and they told me the pdr would be 2400 but they would strip repair and repaint for 1500. that's where i got those numbers. i personally don't understand it but the insurance company wont agree with the $1500 repair but would send an adjuster out to look at it if i were to chose the higher price. i would just do it all myself but i am disabled now and can't physically bend over for that long. it needs to be repainted either way MIO the paint is chirped to hell all over the place. once i figure out how to post more pictures i will get some good ones of the damage so that you could give me some incite. im not here to make enemy just looking for some good advice.

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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 12:25 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

If your not trying to make any enemies leave the word dick out of your post.
But the reality is your pictures show like two dents and a scratch hard to believe anyone quoted 2500 for pdr. So nextime choose your pictures more wisely
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

Just a couple observations. One is, and you already know this, but the pics dont show hail damage. I see no way that hail could cause paint chips on that part of your door. They look exactly like door dings from parking lots. Hail damage will be mostly on top, and will be dents, not knicks. Unless the pictures just arent show it...but they can be blown up pretty big and i didnt notice.

Two is...it looks like the car's had a paint job. Either that or someone spray painted the door hands (not all the way either) and the door locks. So depending how well the car was painted, I can see how hail might cause more damage than on a factory or other paint job. I dont know if that will effect how PDR works or not.

If you want to post more pics... just upload them to photobucket. Its free and does a decent job of not making the pics too small. Then just copy the [IMG]xxxx[/IMG] code into your post. It will post the pictures at a nice size right in the thread.

If you really do have a lot of hail damage...I would say your best bet is these forums, junk yards, and a few used parts sites like moderndaymuscle for replacements. There are plenty of guys like me around with hoods and fenders sitting around for no good reason haha.

Good luck fixing her up... Toss up some more pics of the top arts like the hood and tops of fenders so we can get an idea of just how bad it is.

J.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

In the pix that are posted I do not see hail damage as well, just chips and door dings and I agree it looks like the car or at least door is not stock paint. Good PDR is not cheap and cheap work like Maco is not good. Take the car to Maco and I bet it will come out looking worse than it does now. I can do a better paint job with rattle cans then most Maco paint jobs I have seen. If your looking fot a cheap repair and have to repaint anyways, why not Bondo the dents out. We have done that a few times and if sanded nice you can't hardly tell where the dents were if at all.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

@ asking for help then calling a mod a dick when trying to help. Then again for saying car is destroyed and choosing to post three pics of the most minor damage. Only on this site...awesome.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 10:23 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

Yeah, looks like door dings from parking lot and the bumper looks like a cat or other animal scratched it.
You may have hail on the car elsewhere but the pix you posted def don't show that type of damage. Delete those pix and put up pix of the damage.
To the OP, you may want to go easy with the jumping in with the name calling attitude until you get to know the peeps here. There are a lot of very helpful people and some give short, to the point, answers because of time.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 10:41 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

The hail was freaking serious up here too! My tech lives a couple miles from where the tornado touched down, and had tennis ball size hail... broken windows and everything.

As far as your Damage goes I have a suggestion. Have the insurance company come out with their adjuster and get an accurate estimate on the repair. Make sure you have all your service repair receipts, and anything else that shows added value to that vehicle. Then let them total it, and buy it back. The car will never leave your possession and the title stays in your hands. You get a check for 75% percent value minus the deductible and purchase price (usually couple hundred bucks). This will actually put cash in your hands for what ever method you choose to have the damage repaired. This is not a theory, I have done this with two cars in the past.

Anything you do, you need to find different PDR shops and get quotes. That is a ton of money for PDR, and those guys would love to non insurance job. Hail damage is their bread and butter around here. I would be happy to give you my PDR guys # up here.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 11:14 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

I've looked at your pictures and didnt find anything that looked glaringly out of ordinary for a daily driver or even semi driver. Looking at the very few pictures posted I'm leaning towards a daily driver. However that being said, the only way some of those dings and paint chips are going to happen is if the hail hits the ground and bounces upward at a high velocity to chip the edges of your door like that. I also couldnt tell if I was looking at specs of dirt in a few spots or paint chips, looked more like dirt but who knows. As far as your back bumper, its not too hard to tell that an animal was at your back bumper stretching its claws(Cat more than likely) For your paint to chip like that though is the result of a very cheap and badly done paint job. I've had my car in a local shop, not sure how it happened but somehow a tool got launched into the air and came down on top of my rear quarter and a pretty good velocity and it only lightly dented my paint. No chip. So if a steel wrench could get launched across a garage and hit my car and not chip the paint tells me that hail the size of tennis ***** should have gone right through your car. Not saying that there might have been any hail damage.. I just dont see any in these pictures. However if the company that is doing your work is going to accept your explanation of hail damage... take it, smile and run when its done! Just remember.. you get what you pay for. A cheep Maaco paint job is just that. Same goes for a cheap job done at any shop. But it also depends on how you run your car. If its a Daily driver do what works to get by. If you plan on having your car hold up to a standard like most people here, spend the extra money, or do all the prep work yourself first. Some shops will allow that. Do all the sanding/stripping, base coating yourself and save a tonne of money. All my paint job cost me was a case of beer and $75 for the can of paint, cant remember the price but a can of clear also. I prepped the car in my own garage, which entailed taking off necessary parts like skirts, spoilers etc, sanded applied primer and resanded. I even cheese clothed the whole car prior to paint. When the painter got to the car all he had to do was give it a final wipe down and then dig out his gun and spray. After paint dried(3 days) I went sanded entire car with 2000 grit and then buffed it. See picture below.... approx $150 paint job. Looks Pro!
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

Most of the PDR guys I've met wouldn't even touch that car. With the paint peeling already, stretching or shrinking the metal back straight will almost surely cause the paint to let go. Sounds like someone trying to milk money from insurance or you. Find another PDR person and I'll bet they tell you what I just said.

BTW good looking car Ronnie.
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by white gold 88
BTW good looking car Ronnie.

hey!! Thanks!
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 01:58 PM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

Now that there are more pictures up I can actually see some damage. But Its still unclear as to the cause other than you saying its hail damage. Still.. Its tough to chip paint when the paint is good. Is that bare metal showing? or primer?? cant really tell. If its metal you are seeing, then its a guarantee that the last person who painted the car did a very cheap job on it. I would suggest collecting any insurance money you think you can get, then throw in some extra money and get a good paint job done. Sand the car, clean it up a bit and repaint. You'll be very happy you spent the extra money and got it done right than a cheap job. It'll look like this one does in a few years with cheap job.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 01:27 PM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

i just got off of the phone with the insurance company after i had a long conversation and they sent someone out for an appraisal. they said its valued at 5000 so they have approved the repairs. i apologies again for being snappy, its been stressful. they are even going to pay to fix pre-existing damage because it is minor. the paint is chirped to the metal so i guess it was a shitty paint job in the first place. i found a much cheaper shop that is willing to work with me so i can get t completely repainted the right way. thanks for all your help, some of the sites helped get a good idea on what it should cost to get fixed and i found the first 2 shops were over charging for parts. almost double of what i can get it for. oh and ronnie i agree nice car. what size tires are you running?
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

i dint read the whole thread, but there is nothing in those pictures that cant be fixed. There are plenty of threads here on body work, read them and do the work yourself. All of those dents can be pulled out with a dent puller!!! add a little bondo and bam, dents are fixed. Your paint wasn't in great shape to begin with, so take this as a chance to get some nice paint on it.

you don't need to wast your money on body panels!!!!

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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Re: Oh Hail No!!

oh and that's a goodmark cowl on your car, its worth money (even in the shape its in) i just bought mine for 600 dollars plus shipping and then another 300 for paint. It might cost a little more for body work to have it fixed, but its well worth keeping. thought id let you know because you said something about replacing it.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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Glad they are gonna do something with it!
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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Heat gun, a lil dry ice and most of the dents will mostlikely come out. Without a stud gun and bondo.
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