dynodanmanda79

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I own a 89 iroc with the stock rearend and drum brakes, Just purchased a 95 LT1 rear end with disc brakes. I have searched on here about the two different size e-brake cables that you can buy from a 90-92 camaro(4-wheel discs). Everyone seems to be using the first design 1434 mm cables. Neither autozone nor advance could order me the first design, and was wondering if anyone has used the longer cables? will they work? or will they be too long?


Thanks, Dan

JamesC

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I ordered mine from CarQuest (P/N BRK 8788, 1st design, 1434 mm). RockAuto shows the 1st design available in 90, 91, and 92 cars. The second design (1460 mm) in 91 and 92. This longer cable was designed for cars with no adjustment provision, as Ed Miller mentions below.

JamesC

swg74

Dan, same situation here. Same car same 95 rear end. If you have replaced your rearend already did you run into the problem w/ the P-valve and brake booster needing to be replaced w/ a 4-disc version? If so which booster and p-valve did you go with? Can't figure out for sure which to order? thanks steve. swg74@***.net

ebmiller88

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Early and late (IE, first and second design) cables will depend on which style of center brake cable you have coming off the pull lever. If you have the adjustable one pictured below you need the first design. If you have the pull cable with no adjustment provision, you need the second design.



Ed
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Same stock disc/drums then so you can keep the stock master/booster as it's correct and you can either install a disc prop or an adjustable one. If you guys can't get cables PM me, I have both on hand.

Thanks!

Ed

dynodanmanda79

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Steve, I haven't put my rear end in yet but I think I might do it this weekend, I'll let you know how the drum brake proportioning valve works. Seems like some people change it and some don't, I guess its just personal preference. i'll keep you updated on how everything goes.

Thanks, Dan

dynodanmanda79

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well here is just an update, I called carquest today and they said they dont have any at their store or any other stores nor does any of their warehouses have any. So I ended up calling Napa and they had them stocked in Illinois, they should be in next week sometime. Thanks to everyone for the help!

Thanks, Dan

Vini

Hi Dan, anymore updates on this project yet?
Vince

dynodanmanda79

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lol I forgot all about this thread! Ok I got the rear end in, I bought the shorter cables from napa. The cables work great though they are a little tight. I've driven it since February and the brakes are awesome! I am still using the drum brake prop valve and it works great. I might upgrade to the disk prop valve later on down the road to see if there is any difference.

JamesC

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For the best brake performance, use the appropriate valve. If only one proportioning valve was needed, why design two?

JamesC

dynodanmanda79

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yeah I thought I saw somewhere that the 1989 drum brake proportioning valve was the same as the disk valve. But idk I very well could be wrong though

Vini

Dan, are you pleased with the wheel setup. could you post some photos, i am interested to see how far the wheels stick out.

Vince

JamesC

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Different part numbers.

A search should provide pics of the fourgen rear.

JamesC

slick76120

Im looking for a set of E brake cables that fit a 1990 Iroc. Can someone help me

slick76120

Im looking for a set of E brake cables that fit a 1990 Iroc. I have 4 way disk brakes. Camaro World want's 800.00 for the original set that came with that year, not a option for me at that price. Plus they have much attitude. Can someone help me!

JamesC

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Check with auto parts stores or RockAuto (they had them the last time I checked). See post #2 for the part you need.

JamesC

3rdgenmaro

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$800???? Was they trying to sell you a whole parts car?

JamesC

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JamesC

actarnoff

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Will those fit his car? I bought the proper cables for my 91' and both the sheath and cable length are incorrect, they don't work at all.

JamesC

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The first design fit my car perfectly (85 with swapped in PBR's).

If your 91 has the tunnel-mounted adjustment mechanism, the first design will fit. If your 91 doesn't have the above, the second design should fit.

JamesC

slick76120

Would you have some part nombers, I called Rock Auto; but thet couldnt help me with the part no.'s

Thanks for your help.

slick76120

I'm not sure what they got going on, But they know those parts are few and far in between. I think they call that price gouging.....I'll never buy anything from them!

JamesC

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Go to the following site and fill out the questions you're asked about your car and the site will provide part numbers and other info:

http://www.rockauto.com/index.php?a=...rtsgascappromo

JamesC

3rdgenmaro

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I just wanted to add that Advance only lists 1 cable for the camaros. The cable they have listed is the second design.

I ordered mine through rockauto.

excessiveego

ok, im slightly confused, i have a 1990 camaro with drum brakes and i have a posi disk rear end from an 87 firebird formula sitting here to go into it. i believe that i understand everything except the ebrake cable thing.

I have yet to look at the ebrake cable specifically on my car, but it seems that the 87 disk brakes use a 2 cable design? and my 90 drum rear end uses a single cable? Most people i see are swapping newer rear ends into older cars, not older rear end into newer cars like i am, and i think that is the reason for my confusion.

can i just order the ebrake cable for an 87 firebird with rear disks and have it work with my ebrake lever?

JamesC

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You need to take a peek. If your car is equipped with the tunnel-mounted adjustment piece (see post #4), you should be able to buy cables for an 87.

On another note, for best brake performance, you should swap out the combination valve to a standard disc-disc valve (alum block, 84 or so to 88). The problem is that the tube nut threads changed in late 89, so without some fiddling, the 84-88 valve won't fit.

JamesC

excessiveego

i planned on using an adjustable combination valve anyway

swg74

Ed,
I talked to you a while back about a P-valve for 89 camaro. Converted from disc/drum to disc/disc, rear end off of 95 camaro. Do you still have the P-valves available? swg74@***.net

Sutton

Ok so I have a 1982 trans am with the adjustable set up e brake like in ed's pic. I swapped the rear to a 1995 trans am disc. I also have the park brake cables from the 95. The 95 had an adjustable setup as well but the 95 cables seem really long. Do I need the part number CarQuest (P/N BRK 8788, 1st design, 1434 mm).

thanks

JamesC

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Since you have the 95 cables, give them a try--who knows. The cable above is the one I used with PBR's and the tunnel-mounted adjustment.

JamesC

Sutton

I tried the 95 cables they are way to long. I went to NAPA today to order the (P/N BRK 8788, 1st design, 1434 mm) but they are back ordered. They said at least a 3 week wait. It's so hard to get parts here in canada.....After that wait I sure hope they work!

Nefarious

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but would the 1460 mm cables work on and LS rear end?

Charon

Hi I'm also sorry for be digging up this old tread but it is linked from the "FAQ About 10-Bolts" sticky so more info is good info,

I think i under stand this correctly BUT I live in Iceland so if I order wrong parts I can NOT return them, so it is a big must for me to get the correct parts, so on to my question:

I'm wrenching on mt friends 1991 RS Camaro that he has owned for 6 years by now, the e-brake has never worked on the car and he finally got me to take a look, and the problem is the cables and the need replacing. i know the rear end is swaped but i don't know from what, the car was bought this way.

I want to order correct cables and will be ordering from Rock auto, the only thing i'm confused about is: doesn't it mate if you have the older brakes (1 on front and 1 in rear of the axle, steel calipers) or the PBR?the only thing that really matters is the upper cable pull?

So the setup in the car is older style rear brakes (1 on front and 1 in rear of the axle, steel calipers) and the newer none adjustable cable pull.

And so from what I am reading I need the 2nd design 1460 mm cables.
Correct?!?!?!

Again sorry for waking up an old thread just really need clarification, and con grats on a great forum.

Greeting Palli from Iceland

actarnoff

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Could you take a picture?

Charon

I can have a pictures of it in few hours, thanks for the quick reply

excessiveego

yes it makes a difference, the brackets on the axle are completely different between the steel calipers and PBR calipers

Charon

I think that you misunderstood my question I'm not talking about the calipers them self, i'm only talking about the e-brake cable, and the cable bracket is on the caliper, so the axle bracket does not matter, the calipers are already on the axle.

Hera are few photos as promissed:



This is the best image i could get of the pull cable, between the torque arm and the 3" exhaust.



Here you can see that i have the steel caliper.




Here you can see that one caliper is on the front and the other on the back.

So now that it is clear what kind of calipers I do have, and what king of pull cable I have. Is it correct understanding on my part that I need the 1460 mm cable?

here are some more photos some good, some pointless of the brakes:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=b43d0b7b5d

EDIT: I think that the original drum cables are still in the car, so there is pointless to measure them, they are the wrong length.

excessiveego

On the PBR calipers, the bracket that holds the cable is on the axle, NOT on the caliper, that is why PBR cables will not work with the delco calipers

JamesC

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Below is a PBR caliper with cable bracket. Note too that PBR's are both mounted to the rear.

As far as I know the 1434 mm (cable used with a tunnel-mounted adjustment) and the 1460 (cable used with self-adjustment) are PBR specific.

With the Delco-Moraines, under normal circumstance, you'd purchase cables designed for disc brakes for your year (if you have an 86, for example, order for an 86). I'm uncertain how lack of adjustment in the 91 would affect length, if at all. You could always swap the tunnel-adjuster into the 91 and buy for a car with the adjuster and disc brakes.

Please double check for yourself, but the cable length for a Delco-Moraine appears to be 48.5" while the PBR 1434 is 56.5", the 1460 57.5".

JamesC

Dyerseve1988

Sorry to dig up this old thread.... but im dealing with this now... Ive got the cables figured out, and installed... pull the lever and guess what the front cable breaks...smh now where the hell can i get a new front cable?

Spent hours searching for one and all the manufacturers say they are discontinued without replacement... help!

I have wagner doorman and oem part no's if it would help locate them... they are written down at my shop so dont have them on hand

JamesC

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There's always the bone yards and advertising on our classifieds.

JamesC

Braggalot

Here's the part numbers I have for the front cable:

GM 12506875
Wagner BC129968
Dorman C129968
Bendix C1784

This part broke on my car as well but the part doesn't exist. I called the dealer, auto-parts stores, and even Dorman themselves. The cable has been discontinued and is not available anywhere.



1991 Pontiac Firebird
Stock TBI 5.0L V8 (305ci)
Borg Warner T-5 Manual Transmission
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