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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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From: Moreno Valley, CA
Car: 1990 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 TBI (L03)
Transmission: 700R4 (MD8)
Axle/Gears: 2.73 Open (GU2)
Why do my wheels keep turning black?

I have hawks performance pads which are supposed to have "extremely low dust output" as well as some Roto-tech cross drilled rotors, and I still have black wheels like I did when I bought the cheap autozone brakes.

Could my calipers be sticking? I'm confused. I changed my brakes and the pad was rubbing against the rotor when I spun the wheel, is that normal?

I'm sick of my car looking like this, and I know some dust is normal, but I get abnormal amounts that turn my wheels completely black.

Also, even after I changed my pads, every time I hit a bump I get this stupid squeaking noise.... is that suspension related?

What could I do to stop these annoying things?!?!??!!?
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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Engine: 5.7 TPI; 5.0 TBI; ZZ4/T56 on the ag
Transmission: A4, A4, slated to be a T56
It's just brake dust. My EBC pads were supposedly low dusting as well but they do the same.

Ed
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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if you have poly bushings, you may need to greeze them
for the brake dust, they sell brake dust shields for the rims, persoanlly i do not like them, as they can affect brake cooling.

what i'll do from time to time is clean the wheels off

or you can get a solid rim, but again, you can possibly affect brake cooling.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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Car: 1986 Z28
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You will always have dust... Sorry.. If they say NO DUST, they lied

That is the nature of disc brakes.

Also, I have to agree with the other member above. Avoid those so called wheel proctectors or dust shields. They do block dust from coming out. They also block air from coming in.

Here is a trick I use that has managed to keep my wheels cleaner longer.

I use Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax on the wheels.
http://www.meguiars.com/?liquid-car-...ation-Tech-Wax
I have found that this stuff works well. It does not let the dust stick as easy. I am very pleased with how it works.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 07:21 AM
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Most so called high performace brake pads will have excessive dust. One drawback to these pads is the soft compound. Get good performance metaltic pads for less of a wheel dust problem..
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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I'd rebuild the calipers first, it sounds as if they may be binding from what you described.
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by MurcoRS
I'd rebuild the calipers first, it sounds as if they may be binding from what you described.
Our calipers are cheap enough it's easier to just replace the whole damn thing.

As for the brakes; I switched to using bendix titanium pads from Schmucks and I get so little dust now it's not even funny. A slight wipe down every few weeks would be all you needed. (I'm a little more **** about cleaning the car/wheels so they get cleaned more often)
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Car: 89 IROC convert.
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I buy my pads from O'reilys, but stay with the premium line (around $60), and don't get any significant dust on my wheels between washings.

My wife's Ford Escape was terrible with the OEM pads, but is clean since I did the brakes about a year ago.

Your drilled rotors may be causing some of your problem too, as edges of holes and slots scrape fine material off the pads whenever you apply the brakes.

Seems like brakes actually started getting messy when they took the asbestos out of them several years back.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Car: 90 IROC-Z
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I put on KVR carbon pads and they have little to no dust. The only downside to them is that you have to warm them up before you can stop the car nicely.
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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Id jack it up and spin the wheels to see if the calipers are dragging, and if thats your car in the picture I think the white wheels are just going to show brake dust worse than a silver wheel.
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