Okay, Just started today... I go to someplace and first words out of my mouth were WTF?!?! Peddle is all the way to the floor.. Okay..... Never had this problem untill now, So i look inside the fill tanks, Only half full the other Low, to make me wounder, looked like sludge and Oil.... and i also Noticed that the Rubber cap part had been scrunched down so i fixed that. So i took a rag soaked up all that old sludge looking crap, Poured New Fluid in, and Each time i hit the Brakes, the Back fill area Shoots alot of Air out of them, and the peddle still goes to the floor. after Playing with them to stop, I litterly Gotta press hard each time or it won't work.

Sooo, What the heck is the Problem here? Air in the Lines still? and if so, how do i remove it without bleeding them??

 

First, figure out where the fluid is going.

Which half of the MC is empty? The rear half works the front brakes, and vice-versa. That'll help narrow down the leak. You can fill it with fluid every day from now til Doomsday and twice on Sundays, and your brakes will NEVER work right until the leak is fixed.

Once you get that straightened out, you'll need to "bench bleed" the MC. you will NEVER EVER get the air out of it with it installed on the car, because of the angle it's at, and because the line fitting isn't at the highest point in the MC. Air will remain trapped FOREVER until it is bled while off the car and held level. Hence the term "bench bleeding"... you put it in a vise or something, and bleed it that way, then put it on the car.

 

There is only one Problem with that. I can't. No Room or place to take it apart... The Rear Half was the one that was almost empty
the front (smaller one) was still almost full it was at the half way point. I did notice something tho, When i slam on them, the car jerks to the right each time.. So that means that i might have a frozen caliper or something?
If so, I will have No choice to sell it off

 

meineke does pressure bleeds for 30 bucks IIRC

 

Then I need to start selling stuff.. Or Else i can't afford it.

 

Jerks to the right? Check your left front for leaks. Should be fairly obvious. Anything the brake fluid touches for more than an hour or so will be stripped of paint. Fix it soon.

 

Well took it too midas today.

What a bummer...
The car is history
Reason is the car has Never had brakes done, and the MC is shot.. My Buddy is full of ****. that little ***** is going to get a camaro shoved up his house... Bastard said he had brake work done himself ( i did see now pads and rotars) but who knows if he really did.

Well Camaro for Sale:
$700.00

 

That's a bit drastic and melodramatic isnt it?

Learn to replace some of that stuff yourself... it aint gonna cost you $750.

 

well first, i have no place to attempt to fix it. I have No Money or Job to support trying to fix the car.
I know how to fix the brakes. I have not touched the master cylinder before tho, and i can't because my apartments does not allow work or cars to be striped or fixed here.
No, i want $700 out of the car. I am not fixing it.

 

well.. im kinda far away, but for $700 send me some pics and ill consider giving it a good home??

im sorry that such an unfortunate thing happened to you

 

wait so what exactly is wrong with the brakes

 

The whole brake system will need replaced...
(Master cylinder, pads, shoes, rotars, drums) I was told by midas that it would be cheaper if I did it my self.

 

it is always cheaper if you do it yourself

 

do you have to replace the lines?? if not then all that stuff is extremely easy. you could take your rotors and drums to a shop and have them machined to just as good as new. pads are extremely easy. shoes take some time but just take a picture of what it looked like before hand so you have something to work with. calipers i think might be cheaper to go to a junk yard and get working ones, then rebuilding them. and a master cylinder you could get at a junk yard. then itll be out and you can bench bleed it. throw it in and bleed the brake lines. and there you go all done

 

Rebuilt early calipers are like $12/each at AZ or one of the others. Just FYI.

 

sorry i have never bought a rebuilt caliper, or a caliper. just heard that it was cheaper to buy one working then rebuild one. i think most of my advice was pretty dead on though. im only 16 i get a mouligan for that.

 

I Might be ablet to afford it. Not too sure tho. The lines are fine, but i might just change the rotors and pads at the moment.

 

I dontk now if theres a difference between "late" and "early" calipers, but my calipers cost me all of $10 a piece with the core.

 

Apparently no difference with the iron calipers and yeah, 9.99 with core. Cheaper than pads.

 

Wait, your master cylinder is no good so you're dumping the car? That's probably an hour job if you have the tools. Do it at a friends house if you have to.

 

I can see if your broke, but then you have to buy anther POS. Then you will have issues, then what. Why would you take it to midas if your broke? You must be in bad shape if they told you to do it yourself, good luck.

 

I am in bad shape, losing my job was the start. Midas is a rip any how, i knew they were try that again. (they did on my 83 firebird) but i just had them bleed the brakes and they did, but I didn't have them do it to this one cause i was just too tired of waiting 2+ hours to get in. Well anyhow, my mother (i love her to death) said she is going to try to get the money for the front pads/rotors for me (never changed these on an F-body) so this is gonna be a first.
But thats if she can. Wish me luck.

 

i mean i still dont understand wats wrong with the brakes i mean a whole brake system sounds unlikely. If your brakes are going to the floor, theirs either a leak, air in the line, or worn pads or shoes. Have u checked the pads yet? rotors don't need to be replaced unless they are warped, or severly rusted or arent of minimum thickness. I mean so you think your calipers are bad?? The calipers are about 12 bucks at autozone and I think pads are 14.

 

I think its just worn pads/rotors, and air in the lines.

 

Mine used to jerk real hard to the left when I stepped on the brakes and then I replaced the calipers only to find out that I had a collapsed rubber brake line.> I would recommend changing them also.

 

Mine also pulled to the left. My caliper was completely seized..

 

I think but im not 100%, if it pulls to one side ALL of the time, its a caliper, if it pulls at first then straightens out its a collapsed brake hose.

 

It pulls to one side then i let go of the brakes again, and press again and it don't do it... Weird, so i guess its a caliper.. oh fun and joy.. if i replace them, i am gonna be froze after its over.. No warm place to do it.. hehe. well...hmmm...

 

you say its cold??Do you drive it through snow?? i know i took my s10 through some large snow piles, and it would pull to one side. and after i got going on dry pavement and braked a couple times it would be fine.

 

Well all the snow here is gone. lol and yes its cold. No i did not drive it when snow was on the ground. only ice. lol But anyhow, it even does that on dry pavement. Sooo.....

 

When my brake hose collapsed brake line, It wouldn't straighten out until I jerked it back to the other side. It wouldn't straighten out until you let off the brake. Hard to diagnose.. Easier just to replace line and caliper. The price of a caliper rebuild kit and you get a remanufactured caliper at same price..