87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
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87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
Ok, I know for sure that my rear breaks are not workin. I have disc brakes by the way. I took the drivers rear wheel off today and I could see that the pads had not contacted the disc. My parking break won't work either. Any idea how to diagnose the cause of the failure. What can I do to find out what exactly is wrong with my brakes. Thanks.
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Car: One owner '88 IROC 50k
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
Sounds like you have the same problem that my '88 Had.
I am guessing that the rears calipers are iron instead of the '89 up alum ones.
The problem is that the caliper has a screw that goes thru the center of the piston to work the e brake that screw is "stuck" that is why neither e-brake or the hyd brakes work. only soultion is to rebuild the calipers OR upgrade to '89 up PBR alum ones or '98 up LS1 rear disks (both need the e-brake cables from the doner car) OR if you want to delete the e-brake the front calipers should fit the rear...
I am guessing that the rears calipers are iron instead of the '89 up alum ones.
The problem is that the caliper has a screw that goes thru the center of the piston to work the e brake that screw is "stuck" that is why neither e-brake or the hyd brakes work. only soultion is to rebuild the calipers OR upgrade to '89 up PBR alum ones or '98 up LS1 rear disks (both need the e-brake cables from the doner car) OR if you want to delete the e-brake the front calipers should fit the rear...
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
How do you get the car inspected if the e-brake is deleted? I need mine to be inspected, can't do it if the e-brake is gone.
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
Only cheap soultion is to get rebuilt calipers AutoZone has them for $45 each Fenco reman part C254 core is $72 each Again this is if you have the Iron rear calipers. the E brake cables should be good as they are plastic coated and normaly just need a shot of WD-40 to free them up. Once you get it fixed the BEST advice is to use the E-brake EVERY time you park it that seems to keep it from siezeing up the best.
To convert to the PBR or LS1's would cost more as you need to change every thing Backing plates, E-Brake cables, line to calipers and rotors...
Dave
To convert to the PBR or LS1's would cost more as you need to change every thing Backing plates, E-Brake cables, line to calipers and rotors...
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/faq-...iscs-89-a.html
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
They can be adjusted, but they'll just fall out of adjustment again. They're crap. There's a fix kit for it, but I think it runs a bit of coin, and I'd rather just swap to a better caliper. Keep an eye out for an 89+ parts car. If you can snag the rear axle out of it, do. Pretty easy bolt in job, only fabrication might be the e-brake cable.
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
They can be adjusted, but they'll just fall out of adjustment again. They're crap. There's a fix kit for it, but I think it runs a bit of coin, and I'd rather just swap to a better caliper. Keep an eye out for an 89+ parts car. If you can snag the rear axle out of it, do. Pretty easy bolt in job, only fabrication might be the e-brake cable.
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
Actually, not all rebuilds have them. I checked when I worked at a parts store. It's hit or miss really. If they had the kits guaranteed it wouldn't be that hard to live with. I hate mine, not only have they fallen out of adjustment, but because they're out of adjustment the pads just rattle around in the calipers. >.<
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
Ok, I replaced my calipers but now they are leaking at the fitting. I tightened them very tight but they still leak. How do I get them to stop?
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
Did you use new crush washers?
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
Make sure you have a brass washer on each side of the banjo bolt.
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
Also did the brake line or the caliper has dirt or something on the sealing surface?
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
Yea, the copper washers are there. I just took a closed end wrench and tightened them even more, they seem to have sealed now. But, I am back to my orig. problem. The freakin e-brake will not work. The rear pads are contacting the rotor when the brakes are applied but they don't seem to be getting tight enough. I bled the brakes, adjusted the e-brake cables, Not good enough. Getting frustrated!
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
Try driving around for 15 or 20 minutes to warm pads/rotors, then press on the brakes as you pull the e-brake.
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Re: 87 Iroc-Z rear brake problem!!!
Yea, the copper washers are there. I just took a closed end wrench and tightened them even more, they seem to have sealed now. But, I am back to my orig. problem. The freakin e-brake will not work. The rear pads are contacting the rotor when the brakes are applied but they don't seem to be getting tight enough. I bled the brakes, adjusted the e-brake cables, Not good enough. Getting frustrated!
If so, I can scan the pages from my Helm shop manual on them for you.
Send me you e-mail address to me at daferris@cablespeed.com...
What usually do however is take the lever off the caliper for the e-brake turn the screw till the pads touch rotor then turn the screw back only enough to get the lever back on the hex. that seems to help but they still stink?
As the post above states... Apply the brakes then pull the e-brake hard then let off the brakes and then let off the e-brake the more you do that (like at every stop lite) the better they will work.
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