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Old May 11, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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big brake upgrade

Hey guys, my names Tyler im new here and i was hoping you might be able to help me out with some questions i have about brakes. i have a 92 camaro rs and i just found a posi rear at a swap meet a few weeks ago. i am making the switch from rear drum brakes to disk but ive been told that the stock disks are not very good. so i was looking at this website:

http://www.bigbrakeupgrade.com/index.htm

and i thought wow this is perfect, good brakes at a good price. but im am unsure if its the whole set or just the front brakes and if it is only front brakes then i dont know what to put on the rear. i have 18inch american racing torq thrust rims so spacing for the LS1s shouldnt be a problem right? if any one can clarify what comes in the kit that would be really helpful. Thanks in advance.

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Old May 11, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Re: big brake upgrade

A few questions. The "rear" you got was from a 3rd gen F body right? You can tell because it'll have just the lower control are brackets/shock brackets and the housing will be cast with the torque arm mount in the center.



What type of brakes did it come with? Early cars came with tiny 10.5" rotors and iron calipers. These are considered the "bad" rear discs.

The other set available on the 3rd gen had larger rotors with finned cast alluminum calipers.

These are really good brakes and if you got them inexpensive they will be just fine.

The 4th gen cars came with 2 different rear disc setups. The 93-97 discs are about the same as ours. They can be made to fit but are not any better than the late 3rd gen discs.

The 98+ 4th gen rears are larger than ours and use a completely different combination of parts.

I believe you need a custom set of brackets to make them fit also.

They use a drum parking brake as well. They are definitely an upgrade compared to what we got but I wouldnt even think about that until your fronts were updated.


Those are what really show tha cars age, Look up the various front brake upgrades and chose whatever one you think will work best for you then look into stepping up the rear brakes.

The link you posted is a good example of what's available for a front end upgrade.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Re: big brake upgrade

Peruse the following link for upgrade kits:

http://www.flynbye.com/catalog/c1_p1.html

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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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Re: big brake upgrade

the rear is out of a 3rd gen.the brakes on the rear are not aluminum. im am looking to upgrade both front and rear brakes at the same time( plus it will be easier to work on the rear when its not on the car). i was hoping to find a kit that included front as well as rear brakes.

also is it normal for a limited slip rear with 3.73s from a 83-86 camaro to have an emergency brake setup on one side only?
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Old May 11, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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Re: big brake upgrade

This is what i have in mind for the future.

Rear http://www.flynbye.com/catalog/i60.html

Front http://www.flynbye.com/catalog/i16.html
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Old May 11, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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Re: big brake upgrade

89ROC-Z i might go the same way those are just what i was looking for. i do wish they where a little cheaper though. i dont know if you will know this or not but will these brakes fit under my AR 18inch torq thrust IIs?
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Old May 11, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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Re: big brake upgrade

Originally Posted by 89ROC-Z
This is what i have in mind for the future.

Rear http://www.flynbye.com/catalog/i60.html

Front http://www.flynbye.com/catalog/i16.html
Originally Posted by razor279
89ROC-Z i might go the same way those are just what i was looking for. i do wish they where a little cheaper though. i dont know if you will know this or not but will these brakes fit under my AR 18inch torq thrust IIs?
Same setup I'm finishing up with now, all I need to do now is fit some braided flex lines on the rear and I'll be finished. They fit nicely under my 17" C5 Z06 Motorsports with plenty of room to spare. Fronts are 12.75" and rears are 12".
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Old May 12, 2009 | 06:31 AM
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Re: big brake upgrade

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also is it normal for a limited slip rear with 3.73s from a 83-86 camaro to have an emergency brake setup on one side only?
No. Sounds like a cable is missing on one side. Check my Car Details below for the 1LE/PBR combo.

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Old May 12, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Same setup I'm finishing up with now, all I need to do now is fit some braided flex lines on the rear and I'll be finished. They fit nicely under my 17" C5 Z06 Motorsports with plenty of room to spare. Fronts are 12.75" and rears are 12".
I would assume they'll fit under 17" IROC reps? PM sent aswell.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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Re: big brake upgrade

its not just i missing cable its a whole e brake setup. my dad said itsweird because ebrakes usualy are like small drums but this setup looks like it works off the caliper, ill try to get pics up tomarrow.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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Re: big brake upgrade

Originally Posted by razor279
my dad said itsweird because ebrakes usualy are like small drums but this setup looks like it works off the caliper...
That's how the OE set-up works.

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Old May 12, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Re: big brake upgrade

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That's how the OE set-up works.

JamesC

Yes, all of them except for the 98 and later version as mentioned.

To the OP, when you say the E brake is missing I assume the rest of tha caliper is there?

If so it looks like you're missing the leaver/spring assembly that (I believe) bolts to the caliper.

Thats how my Mazda is and I believe that's how my 3rd gen is but I havent worked with the old iron rear discs before.



One thing I'm thinking about though is I dont think the old iron caliper equipped rears can be swapped to the larger discs like the drum rear can.

I'd get anything worth your money out of the housing and sell it for a couple bucks, then you can either pick up a later disc rear or modify your stock drum rear to accept the later discs using the kits available.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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Re: big brake upgrade

why would you not be able to put bigger disks on a stock disk setup? i am new to this rear/ brake swap stuff so all this info is really helping me out, thanks guys
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Old May 12, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Re: big brake upgrade

Originally Posted by razor279
why would you not be able to put bigger disks on a stock disk setup?
You can. Check the following link:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/faq-...iscs-89-a.html

BTW, above by OE, I meant thirdgen (though the 93-97 version is nearly identical to the 89-92 PBR set-up).

Check the following FAQ for more info concerning brakes, e-brakes, upgrades, etc.:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...-10-bolts.html

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Old May 13, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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Re: big brake upgrade

Good work James I knew the early disc rear housing had different ends but I didnt know it could be done with just shims lol.
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