Changing from drum to disk.. One of 2000 other topics like it.. Some questions
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Car: 1987 Firebird Formula
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Changing from drum to disk.. One of 2000 other topics like it.. Some questions
Hey, I picked up a 1991 Formula parts car, had a rear disk rear end, so I grabbed it.. I got the 2 dust shields with the caliper mount, and the proportioning valve from under the master cylinder.
Where my question comes in is... The rear end I got from the car is a 9 bolt POSI with a 3.42 gear.. I have a 10 bolt POSI with a 3.42 gear.. From what I've read, the 9 and the 10 bolt are not inter changeable..
So, What I was going to do was.. Remove my rear drums, and the dust shield, cut the wheel cylinder mount so it will fit the new dust shield with the caliper mount, and drill and tap 4 holes with 3/8 grade 8 bolts.. I was then going to run the new hard lines and install the prop valve.. Will this work, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Where my question comes in is... The rear end I got from the car is a 9 bolt POSI with a 3.42 gear.. I have a 10 bolt POSI with a 3.42 gear.. From what I've read, the 9 and the 10 bolt are not inter changeable..
So, What I was going to do was.. Remove my rear drums, and the dust shield, cut the wheel cylinder mount so it will fit the new dust shield with the caliper mount, and drill and tap 4 holes with 3/8 grade 8 bolts.. I was then going to run the new hard lines and install the prop valve.. Will this work, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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From: Lawrence, KS
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Changing from drum to disk.. One of 2000 other topics like it.. Some questions
Hey, I picked up a 1991 Formula parts car, had a rear disk rear end, so I grabbed it.. I got the 2 dust shields with the caliper mount, and the proportioning valve from under the master cylinder.
Where my question comes in is... The rear end I got from the car is a 9 bolt POSI with a 3.42 gear.. I have a 10 bolt POSI with a 3.42 gear.. From what I've read, the 9 and the 10 bolt are not inter changeable..
So, What I was going to do was.. Remove my rear drums, and the dust shield, cut the wheel cylinder mount so it will fit the new dust shield with the caliper mount, and drill and tap 4 holes with 3/8 grade 8 bolts.. I was then going to run the new hard lines and install the prop valve.. Will this work, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Where my question comes in is... The rear end I got from the car is a 9 bolt POSI with a 3.42 gear.. I have a 10 bolt POSI with a 3.42 gear.. From what I've read, the 9 and the 10 bolt are not inter changeable..
So, What I was going to do was.. Remove my rear drums, and the dust shield, cut the wheel cylinder mount so it will fit the new dust shield with the caliper mount, and drill and tap 4 holes with 3/8 grade 8 bolts.. I was then going to run the new hard lines and install the prop valve.. Will this work, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
http://www.flynbye.com/catalog/i30.html
BTW, a 91 shouldn't be equipped with a 9-bolt unless someone swapped it in. Does it have Delco-Moraine iron calipers or alum PBR's?
JamesC
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Re: Changing from drum to disk.. One of 2000 other topics like it.. Some questions
Nothing, they're gone.. The cars vin checked out with factory 4 wheel disk.. I double checked.
How do you mean modifying the axle flange?
How do you mean modifying the axle flange?
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Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Changing from drum to disk.. One of 2000 other topics like it.. Some questions
If I read you right, you want to convert your drums to discs. You can either purchase Ed's kit or do the following mod:
https://www.thirdgen.org/ls1reardisc
BTW, the only difference in the thirdgen 9- and 10-bolt, where brakes are concerned, is the backing plate. Check those out in the following link, post #20 (If your backing plates don't look like the ones there, which were made for PBR's, I'd guess the rear was originally equipped with 82-88 Delco-Moraine calipers):
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/faq-...iscs-89-a.html
JamesC
https://www.thirdgen.org/ls1reardisc
BTW, the only difference in the thirdgen 9- and 10-bolt, where brakes are concerned, is the backing plate. Check those out in the following link, post #20 (If your backing plates don't look like the ones there, which were made for PBR's, I'd guess the rear was originally equipped with 82-88 Delco-Moraine calipers):
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/faq-...iscs-89-a.html
JamesC
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Re: Changing from drum to disk.. One of 2000 other topics like it.. Some questions
With the disc rear end you got with your find were both calipers positioned behind the axle or were they staggered??
If they were both in the rearward placement (PBR) i'll tell you what I did....
If they were both in the rearward placement (PBR) i'll tell you what I did....
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Re: Changing from drum to disk.. One of 2000 other topics like it.. Some questions
i have a 10 bolt rear like yours wih 3-23 posi with drums..i wanted to keep the rear end because the posi unit is new,,,so i did what most people here on 3rd have done,,,i bought a set of brackets for pbr calipers from ed miller ...bolt on ..now i have rear discs and it was quite easy...hope this helps.
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Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Changing from drum to disk.. One of 2000 other topics like it.. Some questions
They were both positioned behind the axle.
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Re: Changing from drum to disk.. One of 2000 other topics like it.. Some questions
Don't mean to hijack, but along the same lines...
I have a 91 10 bolt with 3.42 gears & Drum brakes... I was looking at Ed's conversion kit and I emalied them, but no reply...
Can I use that and still fit disc brakes into a 15" wheel? I have them & there is no problem with the front... so does this kit keep the same stock spacing??? Thanks,
Rafael
I have a 91 10 bolt with 3.42 gears & Drum brakes... I was looking at Ed's conversion kit and I emalied them, but no reply...
Can I use that and still fit disc brakes into a 15" wheel? I have them & there is no problem with the front... so does this kit keep the same stock spacing??? Thanks,
Rafael
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