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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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Explorer brakes on a ford 9" with small bearing

Ok, picked up a ford 9" for a very good price. Has 10" drums on it and I have LS1 disks on my 10 bolt now. From researching here I've come to realize it might be easier and quicker to put explorer disks on the rear instead of trying to adapt my LS1's to it.

I found a 95 exploder with rear disks but can't tell what housing ends it has on it.Does anyone know if these can be adapted to my housing with the small ends?

I'm hoping somone out there has done this swap and can shed some light on it for me.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Re: Explorer brakes on a ford 9" with small bearing

I have done several. Check out the Ford Motorsports catalog.
They have a complete kit that is reasonably priced. Wrecking yard
parts might not be worth the time and money if you gotta
replace pads, shoes and rotors.
You can change the axle bearing flanges to the large Torino style,
it is commonly done.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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Re: Explorer brakes on a ford 9" with small bearing

Check out this article to see what you need.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/howto...ion/index.html

And you can find the kit for $324.99 under part number M-2300-G2
at Jegs.

Good luck.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Re: Explorer brakes on a ford 9" with small bearing

The setup on the junk yard exploder is in great shape. Parking shoes and pads are virtually new, and the rotors look like they have been replaced very recently. Basically a total brake job was done probably 5000 miles ago and they rear ended someone big time. Engine is sitting under the dash right now. I can get the rear brake setup for under $100.

The only company near me wants $400 to change the housing ends, plus the ends themselves so if I can use the brakes I found somehow with the small end this would be optimum. (I'd rather keep my LS1's actually) Anyway......they told me if I went to the big bearing ends I'd also have to buy new axles. I'm not a ford guy and other than the 9" in my 55, not dealt much them lately so not sure if this is true or not..

Or, another possibility is I have an extra set of superlite II calipers. If I can get the parking brake setup to work off the LS1's or explorer I may just machine up a set of caliper brackets and weld them onto the housing. Would be nice to have matching superlite's both front and rear.

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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Re: Explorer brakes on a ford 9" with small bearing

I bought a ford 9" with the 11" explorer disks on it and converted it over to use the LS1 set-up. Was alot of fab work. The Explorer discs suck because they are non-vented and have cast iron calipers.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Re: Explorer brakes on a ford 9" with small bearing

I agree about the explorer brakes, the LS1's are a much nicer setup. And if I have to mod the brakes I'd rather put my time on the LS1 setup.

From looking at the bearing ends I can weld up the holes in the LS1 backing plates and redrill them to fit the small bearing ends, then enlarge the center hole to fit over the axle bearings. The only question I have is there a difference in the spacing of the housing ends to the face of the axles. This will be what makes or breaks this for me.

I wish I had an extra LS brake setup. My car is a daily and I'd have to pull my brakes off to get this sorted out, unless I happen to run across someone that's done this exact swap and can give me all the answers so my car won't be down for long.

But on the bright side after I do it I'll post a tech article so others can benefit from it.

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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Re: Explorer brakes on a ford 9" with small bearing

Originally Posted by 406TPI
I bought a ford 9" with the 11" explorer disks on it and converted it over to use the LS1 set-up. Was alot of fab work. The Explorer discs suck because they are non-vented and have cast iron calipers.
Can you give me some idea of what you needed to do and how you solved these problems with your fab work????
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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Re: Explorer brakes on a ford 9" with small bearing

Originally Posted by alloy
Can you give me some idea of what you needed to do and how you solved these problems with your fab work????
http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...ld-up-for-IROC

It's in this thread.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 04:07 AM
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Re: Explorer brakes on a ford 9" with small bearing

That's some nice work you have done.

Got my spare set of LS1's today and test fitted them to the ford rear. Turns out the LS1 backing plates just fit over the small axle bearing perfectly. And one out of the 4 mounting holes lines up. The backing plate needs to be spaced towards the axle 1/4" is all. So looks like I can weld up 3 holes in the backing plate and make a set of 1/4" spacers.

Got a couple of other small details to work out, but nothing big.

If I had the explorer brakes I might have went the way you did, but all I have is the LS1's. Got an extra set today for $90 off craig's list. Gotta love deals like that.
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