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Old 08-18-2017, 10:56 PM
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'Sunsong' Brake hoses inside Ac Delco boxes from Rockauto?

So i bought two new brake hoses for my 88 firebird from rockauto this past weekend. I finally get to opening the boxes and notice that the hoses them selves say Dot Sunsong SAE on them? I go back to my order on rock auto and look at the pictures and sure enough they look like the SUNSONG 2201025 and SUNSONG 2201119 were as i ordered the AC Delco 18J290 and 18J340. Those pictures clearly show brass fittings on the ends while these are not brass.

Is Ac Delco selling repackaged Sunsong brake lines or did something go wrong at rockauto and i should contact them?

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Re: 'Sunsong' Brake hoses inside Ac Delco boxes from Rockauto?

Every set of brake hoses I've bought the last 5 years are Sunsong. Ordered several brands, all Sunsong in the packages. I've seen Sunsong hoses in ACDelco packaging, so I'd say it's normal.

The "brass" is really just steel with a zinc plating. Most of the current hoses seem to skip the zinc, probably because it's unnecessary, expensive and hazardous.

Did your hoses come with the copper crush washers? If so are they the right size? All the ones I've bought lately are either missing washers completely, or they're far undersized. The correct washers should have about a 17mm OD, the "ACDelco" replacements are about 13mm OD.
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Re: 'Sunsong' Brake hoses inside Ac Delco boxes from Rockauto?

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Every set of brake hoses I've bought the last 5 years are Sunsong. Ordered several brands, all Sunsong in the packages. I've seen Sunsong hoses in ACDelco packaging, so I'd say it's normal.

The "brass" is really just steel with a zinc plating. Most of the current hoses seem to skip the zinc, probably because it's unnecessary, expensive and hazardous.

Did your hoses come with the copper crush washers? If so are they the right size? All the ones I've bought lately are either missing washers completely, or they're far undersized. The correct washers should have about a 17mm OD, the "ACDelco" replacements are about 13mm OD.
Wow very interesting stuff! I wonder whats happening there...

Yes they did here are some pics of the washers. I measured them with my digital caliper they show 16.5mm? not sure where they are supposed to go thats why im including pics.






So these are fine brake lines to go with obviously and have no other choice i guess? haha
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Re: 'Sunsong' Brake hoses inside Ac Delco boxes from Rockauto?

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Wow very interesting stuff! I wonder whats happening there...

Yes they did here are some pics of the washers. I measured them with my digital caliper they show 16.5mm? not sure where they are supposed to go thats why im including pics.



So these are fine brake lines to go with obviously and have no other choice i guess? haha
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This is where the crush washers go, one on each side of the block.

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Re: 'Sunsong' Brake hoses inside Ac Delco boxes from Rockauto?

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This is where the crush washers go, one on each side of the block.

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Ahhh ok for both sides of the banjo bolt?
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Re: 'Sunsong' Brake hoses inside Ac Delco boxes from Rockauto?

Yep, one on each side of the block. Looks like the ones you've got are the right size. More often than not, the supplied washers are much narrower than the shoulder on the banjo bolt. ACDelco 21012386 are only about 12 or 13mm OD. Dorman 484180 look to be the right size. Grainger 5ZLU2 are fairly close too. It's just annoying how hard it gets to find basic hardware.
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Re: 'Sunsong' Brake hoses inside Ac Delco boxes from Rockauto?

Yeah I hear you on that one! I always have trouble finding correct hardware...


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Re: 'Sunsong' Brake hoses inside Ac Delco boxes from Rockauto?

My Raybestos say Sunsong too. After a few years, the ends start to rust. I'd pay 3 times as much to get USA hoses.
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Re: 'Sunsong' Brake hoses inside Ac Delco boxes from Rockauto?

I put rock auto ac delco brake hoses on the car last summer and now I'm curious if they're sunsong as well. I'll take a look later today




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