Piss Poor Pedal
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Car: 1985 IROC Z
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
**** Poor Pedal
I have a 1985 Iroc running a TPI and 4 wheel disc brakes. While the car stops o.k. it seems like a lousy pedal that travels further than I think it should. I've been told all gen 3's with a TPI have lousy pedals as there isn't enough vacuum to help the booster. If this is true, is there an option to fix the problem? Or am I just expecting too much from 1985 technology? My 2000 Jeep Wrangler has a far better feel so that's my comparison each time I drive it. Thoughts?
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From: Henrietta NY
Car: 1984 Trans Am L69
Engine: Sniper EFI Powered 355
Transmission: WC T5 w/ Steel Support Plate
Axle/Gears: 3.42 10 Bolt Posi
Re: **** Poor Pedal
Only time I ever had a bad brake pedal on one of these cars was when there was an issue like bad rubber lines or air in the line.
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From: Hawaii
Car: 89' Firebird / 87' Formula
Engine: 3.4 / 5.0
Transmission: 700-R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / 3.42
Re: **** Poor Pedal
there is no way you can compare a 85 - a 2000
but you should try to bleed the lines and replace the old fluid, and at that age, you should probably also change the rubber hoses...they are probably degraded and allowing for expansion with pressure etc..
but you should try to bleed the lines and replace the old fluid, and at that age, you should probably also change the rubber hoses...they are probably degraded and allowing for expansion with pressure etc..
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From: WA
Car: 1989 IROC-Z
Engine: L98 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: BW 9 Bolt / 2.77 Posi
Re: **** Poor Pedal
Sounds like you've got a problem with your brakes, though. A fluid flush is an easy and cheap first diagnostic.
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From: Milwaukee
Car: 92 Firebird, 77 Trans Am SE, 86 Z28
Engine: 5.7 HSR, T/A 6.6, empty
Transmission: T-5, TH350, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08 posi, 3.23 posi, 3.23
Re: **** Poor Pedal
If the rears aren't relatively adjusted up then the pedal will be low. Much more common on a drum brake system but still applies to this vintage of disc brake.
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From: Oyth
Car: 89RS vert
Engine: Erod
Transmission: 4L65e
Axle/Gears: BW, 3.27
Re: **** Poor Pedal
One of the reasons GM switched to the later pbr calipers was those rear Delco moraine calipers. They had a tendency not to self adjust like they were suppose to. Could be that's your issue. Usually you'd have a gap between the pad/rotor. I always used to manually adjust them, eventually I just upgraded to the pbr style.
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Car: 1985 IROC Z
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: **** Poor Pedal
So I actually had all the wheels off the other day just to polish and clean the backsides and I had my step on the brake pedal. No rear brakes to speak of, didn't even act like it wanted to do something, then up front, just the passenger side, yikes! So, bought all new pads, rotors and calipers, plus stainless replacement lines. We'll see how that works out! If I fumble through and only got one more brake to work, I'd still be 100 % better off! HAHAHAHA
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