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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 08:46 AM
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I just got the coolest thing!

I just ordered an Orion DEQ-30. Does anyone here have experience with it? I figure for 800 bucks it's probably something pretty damn good. I have a pair of EQT's right now that I'm giving to my brother so I wanted to get another EQ. Here's a link to a pic of it.

http://www.orioncaraudio.com/deq30.html

Hopefully you guys have some good review of it. Kinda spendy but you get what you pay for.
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 06:46 PM
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no excperiance with it but orion rocks
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 01:15 AM
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...you bought it for $800 before you knew what it would do?!? Gutsy! Uhh.. anyway...

Yeah, that's a pretty damn high-end unit you've got there. It's arguably one of the best, most accurate crossover available. I'm slowly piecing together my dream system right now that's largely made up of Orion HCCA stuff. If I was completely loaded, I'd get the DEQ-30 as well.

Basically, it's a fully digital eq that can be adjusted in very small increments. I believe that it'll allow you to use the eq for your entire system, so in that sense, it's kind of a "bargain". Certainly a space-saver.

Orion doesn't get a lot of "airplay" around here, but IMHO, their high end equipment (HCCA,XTR Pro) is some of the best stuff on the market. That goes for speakers, subs, amps; they have a quality answer to everything. And the DEQ-30 is the premium crossover that they sell to tie it all together.

If you don't mind my asking, where did you get it, why, and for what application? I haven't heard of anyone picking one up who wasn't planning on entering SQ contests. Regardless, I hope you enjoy it. And if you decide you don't want it, I'll take it off your hands for a big discount...
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 01:22 AM
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hmm... 800 on just an EQ? Well I hope you spend about 500 on a security system.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 09:10 AM
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I used to have a bunch of HCCA stuff in my old car and did very well competing with it. I have always liked Orion stuff and I decided to go with it again because nobody around here sells it anymore and it's nice to have something that everyone else doesn't. Plus I've always liked the quality of their higher end stuff.
Right now I have two Orion amps that are listed below that I am happy with. Lots of power but with the way I have everything set up the sound quality is great.

As for the DEQ-30 I got it because it was the best I could find and will keep me happy forever. I am competing with this car when it gets all finished up and it will give me all the flexibility I need to get my system tuned the way I want it.

As for everyones comments on the price I just don't mess around with stuff I'm serious about. When I was younger I had to struggle to get stuff that was less that good. Now I'm older, have a good job and can finally afford some stuff I've always wanted. My next purchase is that I'm doing custom door pods for a 8 inch midbass and I'm replacing the 4 tweet in my kicks with a 5.25 tweet from CDT.

So I hope you don't hold me as a snob or something for getting stuff like this. I get just as excited when my bro spends 100 bucks on a used amp and deck and loves it. I've just been doing this a long time and have very high tastes now. I just took many years and lots of school to finally be able to afford this stuff.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 11:56 AM
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hmm... 800 on just an EQ? Well I hope you spend about 500 on a security system.
Better mount that thing in a bullet proof enclosure....
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 01:01 PM
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So I hope you don't hold me as a snob or something for getting stuff like this.
Not at all dude! Don't mistake envy for resentment.

I can totally appreciate someone dropping a decent amount of coin on something that's worth it. It just sounded like you were picking it up for casual use, which seemed like overkill. Competing demands a top quality EQ that can coordinate the system's sound, and IMO there's no better one out there.

I'm a huge fan of Orion... just not used to hearing that other people are interested too, let alone the best stuff they make. The local shops here don't stock anything above the damn Cobalt line

It sounded at first that you'd just randomly upgraded to it from the EQT's, but it's obvious that you put a lot more thought into it than that and that you're building an excellent, potent system. He11, that's what those components are made for!!
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 01:40 PM
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You are so right about there not being a lot of access to certain Orion products from local shops. Even their website confuses me as far as what they carry and what they don't. Like the MB line of speakers. They used to have a 6MB and an 8MB(which I am currently hunting for). What ever happend to that stuff? Or the HCCA line of mids (which are perfect for an HCCA amp)? Not on there either. I wonder if they got bought out or something because there has obviously been some changes. Without a local shop carrying their stuff I'm kinda in the dark.

Just for you to laugh at in my last car (A 88 Nissan Pulsar, it was cheap) this is what I had:

A Clif Designs tweet and four inch mid in kickpanels with a 6 inch midbass in the doors, I had a 225 HCCA bridged mono running the left mids and tweets and another 225 HCCA running the right side. I had a 250 HCCA running 8 eight inch XTR woofers in a wall behind the seat. I had three optima batteries using a MBR70 as the battery regulator. Had a cap, Audio Control EQL, Linear Power crossover and Eclipse headunit. It was a rolling stereo. Took three solid months to put it all in. Damn was it fun. I have more power now and proabably better stuff but that system was fun. That was back in my single days. Now I need room for a car seat if I needed to.
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 08:51 AM
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800 bucks?..im prolly gonna get a lotta crap for sayin this but i think u got ripped off. Check out audio control . Best competition stuff on the market for i believe less than you paid for that orion. Just my .02
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 08:58 AM
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I went from a pair of EQT's to get the DEQ-30. I know audiocontrol very well and I knew what I was doing. You might not agree but oh well. You're right though. Audiocontrol makes great stuff.
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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I'm real curious to see how you like it after you use it. I've got a pair of EQTs sitting in my bedroom (where they've been for 2 years now ) waiting to go into my IROC.

This upcoming summer I'm finally going to devote time to installing the audio system, along with the rest of my interior mods. I'm getting excited.
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by miked
I had a 225 HCCA bridged mono running the left mids and tweets and another 225 HCCA running the right side. I had a 250 HCCA running 8 eight inch XTR woofers in a wall behind the seat. I had three optima batteries using a MBR70 as the battery regulator. Had a cap, Audio Control EQL, Linear Power crossover and Eclipse headunit. It was a rolling stereo. Took three solid months to put it all in. Damn was it fun. I have more power now and proabably better stuff but that system was fun. That was back in my single days. Now I need room for a car seat if I needed to.
Wow, that's like almost exactly what I'm going with for my car... were you running the HCCA 225's at 4ohms mono? I lucked out and got a pair of the HCCA6's you were talking about. I'm not sure they make them anymore, but each 225 that I'm planning on using is going to deliver 200W to each side because their impedence is 2ohms. I'm undecided on a sub amp, but I have a 250R that I'm not using, although I'd like more power than that.

Question: I was planning on going with 2 batteries and a used MBR70 if I could find one. Were 3 really necessary for your set-up?? I mean, I know they're current draw is high, but damn!

Already have an EQL I was planning on using too. No cap in mind yet but it'll have to be considered. And my headunit is a Rockford unit. Other than that, very similar concept!!

So I have to ask... were you really happy with that system? I'd hate to incorporate everything into my car only to be disappointed with something. Is there anything you would have changed?
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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Hey man there isnt a chance u'd wanna sell me the EQT's is there?
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 11:19 PM
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Jim- I'll post what I think of it to let you all know. I also sat on my EQT's for awhile before I got them in. First problem was I didn't know where to put them. Those Orion amps are pretty big and take up a lot of trunk room. I ended up putting them in the rear seat back so I could sit in the drivers seat, fold the seat down, and mess with them. The other problem is that I never have time to work on my own stuff. I'm always working on other peoples cars. Takes me forever to get anything done for myself.

KCobain 147- They are going on ebay pretty soon. I'll start them at $100 and see what I can get. You can email me an offer at mikejdm@hotmail.com.

Trueblue91RS- Sounds like you and I think a lot alike. Email me anytime if you want more details on my old set up or anything else. My address is mikejdm@hotmail.com. Yes each 225 was running mono at I believe 2 ohms. I'm too tired right now to do the calculation but each amp was seeing a tweeter, 4, and 6.5. The 250 HCCA was running down to a half an ohm stereo with 4 subs per side. We had it fan cooled and it was pushing 800 watts. It was plenty of power for what I had plus because of the low RMS rating I was competing with what I could call 200 watts (25x2 for each 225 and 2x50 for the 250). It was like cheating.

No, three batteries were not neccessary. It was more because we ended up with a battery sized empty spot on one side of the amp rack so in went another battery. I really wish I had pictures. We got the system in and one of the installers quit and stole my photo album out of the car when he took off. I suppose to take credit for everything we did. He took the other shop photos as well. He probably got a job showing off a bunch of pics of things he didn't even do.

The EQL did a very fine job. I think you'll like it.

As for my happiness with the system I loved it. Because of the time and thought that went into it the sound quality was awesome for having so much stuff. Using that much high quality stuff almost guarantees good sound IF you do it right. I do think the more stuff you try to cram in a car the more thought it takes to get it to sound right. I've heard great sounding stuff without tearing a car apart and making it a rolling stereo. Simple can be better but it just doesn't suit my personality. Maybe in my wifes car

With eight subs obviously I could hammer out some bass if needed. That was one of my favorite parts. It seemed like the eights played the tight quick bass that I like for rock but there was so much cone area that it played rap type stuff with authority. As far as what I would've have changed hmmmm..........I would have liked to have a second daily driver car at that time. That much stuff made the car pretty non-functional for anything else. That's about it. Everytime I get serious about building a system I tell myself I am going to buy everything that I really want even if it takes a long time to save for it. That way I have no regrets. That system was built with the same idea. I selected everything with the idea there was nothing else on the planet I would have gotten instead. I did the install the same way. It was perfect given my abilities. Took my time and did it right. If it took a day to cut out one template out of posterboard for a panel, thats what I did. So I guess no I wouldn't have changed anything.
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 02:33 AM
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]I'm always working on other peoples cars. Takes me forever to get anything done for myself.
Too funny, I'm actually dedicating all my free time right now to putting together my brother's system and customizing the interior. Once that's done though, I think I'll have to take you up on your offer and ask you some questions concerning my system. Sounds like you did a great job on yours and that it went really well. Since mine is all similar stuff, I'd really appreciate any help you could give me once I get down to it. Probably another month or so.... hopefully you're still around by then If not, I'll email you if that's okay.

And yeah, make sure you post the results as soon as the DEQ is in and you've had a chance to try it out. I've only heard from one other person who has used one before and I didn't even get to hear the system for myself. Also, he had only been using the active crossovers on his amps before he installed it so obviously he was impressed with the improvemment, but it's a poor way to compare.

Just out of curiousity I'd like to know how easy it is to tune/use in general. I've never been able to play with one and like you said, Orion is a bit sketchy with their website.
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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Send me an email anytime. I've been thinking and there is one thing I would've maybe changed on that old system but send me an email and we'll chat that way.
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