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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 05:34 PM
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Kick Panels/ Kick Pods

Any news on the man that used to manufacture these? Is he still stationed over seas?

My cars getting painted, and i'll soon have it back together and im starting to piece my system back together. Id like to find a set of kicks for 6.5's

PS - if any one has a set they are willing to sell or make a mold of, PM me or email me at blythp@hotmail.com
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 11:38 PM
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there are other people on this forum that make them too
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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Hopefully this winter I'll have time to make a mold of mine so that I can start producing them inexpensively. To custom make each one would require me to charge more than most people are willing to pay, but if I can take a mold of mine, I should be able to stamp these puppies out pretty easily, which should push costs way down.
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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well let me kno if you do decide to
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by ScrapMaker
there are other people on this forum that make them too
I know a few people have made them for themselves, but everyone who made them for sale either moved on or got shipped off to Iraq. If someone is around and still makes them, I would be interested in a set.
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 01:33 AM
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I could look through my email and find the guy who makes them, who is still around, but that is so much work
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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you know...I know itsnot the same, but if you wanted kickpanels and didnt want to pay for glass kicks, you can use premade ones and put about a .5 inch of body filler behind it, and you will get a pretty good sound...thats what I did in my ...Stang... because I drive it to school everyday and I didnt want to spend alot of money or attract too much attention...
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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also, I plan on making a few sets this winter in anybody is interested...
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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by premade do you mean the "stock" kickpanels, or the q-logics(with filler to improve sound quality)??

because if you are doing the q-logic, those are much more expensive then homemade, and usually worse...

but if you are using the stock kicks, (or suggesting that we try that in our cars,)... I don't think that any decent speaker would fit in the kicks.. at all...
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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well I was talking about qlogics cause I know some people just dont want to make their own and would rather buy premade... But you are right, making your own glass ones are cheaper...I will post pics of the ones I made when I get home...
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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do you think the "modified" q-logic kickpanels sound better than homemade kickpanels?
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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IN my experience...no not at all, if the homade kicks are made right. but...the modified pre mades sound halfway decent...but a good homemade set will run circles around them.
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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could you put up a how to for glass kicks becuz i was gunna do them but im not sure about it.. plus the qlogics are hella expensive..
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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are yo fimiliar with fiberglassing at all? well the short version (and easier) is to first lay the mat, or felt on the area where you want the kicks to go. then put your speaker ring on dowels and place it under the felt in the spot and direction you wixh the speakers to fire. Now..if the you can live without driving your car for a day or so, put the resin on top of the felt and let it harden...
Wow...that sounds confusing, but its the basics. But if you guys want a sticky, next time I make a set I will take pictures and do a tutorial...
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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heh ive seen a few tutorials online and have a basic idea of working the glassing but i wasnt so sure about how to make teh speaker mounting rings and crap.. if i can find him on here this one dude has a really good how-to on kicks in his site.....oh yeah its brobert
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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I don't see how another step-by-step tutorial could hurt anything...

It would be fun to learn fiberglass so I could make other interesting things besides kickpanels.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Jim85IROC
Hopefully this winter I'll have time to make a mold of mine so that I can start producing them inexpensively. To custom make each one would require me to charge more than most people are willing to pay, but if I can take a mold of mine, I should be able to stamp these puppies out pretty easily, which should push costs way down.
i've got a NAME video that step by step explains the materials and techniques necessary to make negative molds to do exactly that (inexpensively reproduce a panel). kinda neat actually with 2 part expanding foam and such....

for an enthusiasts club like this, its nice to figure out the tuning of a 3rd gen and then share the wealth. but part of the fun of kicks is in the making, no?

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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How are those videos? I used to see the ads back when I still got industry magazines, but at the time I never had the money to order one.

I did find some good info online about doing the molds though, and it's actually from a GREAT f-body audio site that everybody here should be on. http://www.fbodyaudio.com/ has a tutorial under their tech section that seems really good.

I agree that part of the fun is making the kicks, but at least in my case, that resulted in kicks that are 10lbs each, and offer virtually no airspace for the mids to breathe. Although my imaging is great, my midbass response sucks. I'm going to take a mold of my kicks to make myself a new set that is thinner, offering more airspace and considerably less weight. Since making the mold is the hard part, it makes sense to me to just go ahead and pop out 1 or 2 or 500 more so that I can offer them to other people here.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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might as well!
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Jim85IROC
How are those videos? I used to see the ads back when I still got industry magazines, but at the time I never had the money to order one.

I did find some good info online about doing the molds though, and it's actually from a GREAT f-body audio site that everybody here should be on. http://www.fbodyaudio.com/ has a tutorial under their tech section that seems really good.

I agree that part of the fun is making the kicks, but at least in my case, that resulted in kicks that are 10lbs each, and offer virtually no airspace for the mids to breathe. Although my imaging is great, my midbass response sucks. I'm going to take a mold of my kicks to make myself a new set that is thinner, offering more airspace and considerably less weight. Since making the mold is the hard part, it makes sense to me to just go ahead and pop out 1 or 2 or 500 more so that I can offer them to other people here.
truth be told, the production of the videos is VERY low buck. cheesy in fact. but the info is solid and the techniques are tried and true. but they're not cheep.....like $30 US a piece. I got the fibreglass 1 (including negative molds) and upholstery vids on a 2 for 1. Picking up even a few solid tips/tricks off them paid for them imho.

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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wtf!! 10 lbs of fiberglass? thats hella sturdy huh? LOL
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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My fiberglass subwoofer enclosure with MDF internal bracing weighed in right around 95 lbs.

So yeah I could probably see 10 lbs with the bracing and all the extras for forming and smoothing.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by blyth18md
wtf!! 10 lbs of fiberglass? thats hella sturdy huh? LOL
In my case it was around 5 ounces of fiberglass and 9 1/2 pounds of body filler. My kicks were my first attempt at fiberglassing, and because I didn't want to wrap around the kick panels, I couldn't stretch the fabric tightly. The result was a very uneven layer that needed massive amounts of body filler to correct.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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Thought there was 16 ounces in a pound. (just messing with ya JIM )

Anyways, yeah from what I've seen on the molding it looks fairly easy. JLaudio.com has a molding section in their tutorials. It's a little more primitive with plaster and hemp for the mold, but it looked like it worked for them too.

Let me know how the molding goes. I might be interested in messing around with the idea.
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