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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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maybe you can help me...

after looking through a few of these, I realized that 90% of you guys have a far better idea of what you're talking about then I do, so maybe you can help me.

I've been looking for a new cd player, money is no object...but, asthetically I'm being very picky...

I WANT a cd player with mp3 playback, that has NO turn-dials, and that ustilizes ONLY neutral colors, such as black, white, silver, off-whites...

basically one that looks something like <a href="http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027124&pathId=54">this</a> but without the red buttons, and with mp3 playback.

I'm not asking anyone to look for one for me, just if anyone just <i>happens</i> to know of a model that fits that description, could you help me out please?

thanks.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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Maybe look at some of the pioneer units, they come in a lot of blacks and silvers, they come with a lot of turn dials too though
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 11:58 PM
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ya, thats the hard part...

...apparently the vast majority of high end players have turn dial things, which I can't stand.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:14 AM
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yeah i have the same problem so i bought a old kenwood deck off of a guy here in my home town
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:27 AM
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The only one i can think of is the one i have. But people seem to not like sony..
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:30 AM
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to be honest with you i have owned two sony decks in my time and really i find nothing wrong with them both of the ones i have owned have worked perfectly no skipping even when going down dirt roads and hitting pot holes. there amps and speakers i wouldn't trust but there receivers are pretty good in my books. its all up to personal prefference now think of this you go buy a sony one and put it in your car now make sure you get the place you buy it off of to install it now if you have any problems then you can always go back and get angry and if you really don't like it then get something diff after that
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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The sony deck is in my jeep.. i have a kenwood in my camaro.. The kenwood would skip and the cd would fail when i would go offroad so i swapped it with the sony and all has been good now for 2 months.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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you can get pioneer without turn dial, and they are awsome decks
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 01:40 AM
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denon z1...said to be the best SQ deck ever made...however it does have a rotary dial
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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ugh, I don't like the way it looks either though...

...hmm, here's a question

the reason i need a new cd player is because my original one stopped playing cds randomly after 2 years, at first not playing them SOMETIMES, and a week later not at all.

about a week or two after that, the radio died too.

I replaced it (it was a ****ty bosonic) with an old JVC, and as of today it followed the exact same pattern, only this time happening after about a month of use.

any idea what could be causing this?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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try getting a lense cleaner for you cd player?

also

http://www.blaupunktusa.com/Blaupunk...pulco+MP54.htm

hows that?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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The only stuff out there with a tasteful, plain appearance is the ultra cheap crap, or the ultra expensive crap. There is very, very little in the middle to choose from unless you want a carnival attraction to pop out of your dash.

The fact that you don't want a volume **** makes your life even more difficult, because that narrows down your choices even further. If you can live with a rotary volume ****, you can check out the Alpine CDA-9835. It's got a white display, and button illumination can be selected to any color you want to match your interior lights. It's not cheap though.

I chose the JVC SH909 because it was the simplest, plainest appearance I could get in an affordable deck that had the features I needed.
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by FreeLoader
I replaced it (it was a ****ty bosonic) with an old JVC, and as of today it followed the exact same pattern, only this time happening after about a month of use.

any idea what could be causing this?
Yes.
What is the model# of the JVC?
Is the radio in the JVC still working?
Do you have experience with electronics?
As clarification on the problem with the JVC: So at first you put a CD in and it was slow to read the CD (probably skipped easy to), then it would intermittently spit the CD out when you loaded the CD, then it would just spit the CD out? Sound right?
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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that was happening about a week ago, today it won't even turn on.

during the week it wouldn't take cds at all.

kd-s5070 is the model #.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by FreeLoader
kd-s5070 is the model #.
You mean KD-S570? I can't find any info on a KD-S5070. And you didn't answer the "experience with electronics" question.
Also, I'm assuming you've check all connections and know how to make good connections. Checked all fuses? Checked ground?
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by NEEDAZ
You mean KD-S570? I can't find any info on a KD-S5070. And you didn't answer the "experience with electronics" question.
Also, I'm assuming you've check all connections and know how to make good connections. Checked all fuses? Checked ground?
[/QUOTE

ya, kd-s570, sorry.

I don't have much, but I have some.

I haven't checked them yet, I'll do that today, haven't checked fuses at all, but I have a feeling there's something wrong with them because in the course of a week I've lost a headlight, my dome light, my transmission shifter light, my blinkers, and my cigarette lighter.

so, ya, i'm thinking there's something wrong.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by FreeLoader
...in the course of a week I've lost a headlight, my dome light, my transmission shifter light, my blinkers, and my cigarette lighter.

so, ya, i'm thinking there's something wrong. [/B]
Fix the electrical problems in your car and your radio will probably start working, at least power up. Then we can start on the CD player......
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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turned out to be a fuse, everything but the blinkers started working again, but the cd player still rejects cds. BTW the blinker fuse isn't blown, and I still don't know why they aren't working.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 02:13 PM
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On the blinkers, are they coming on and not flashing? If so, probably the flasher.
On the CD player, it's probably the optical pickup. I had an old post that explained the replacement procedure. Let me search for it tonight.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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Does it have to be new? Alot of decks from a few years back were only buttons and no ***** at all. Plus they can be had cheap, just hook up a MP3 changer to it.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by NEEDAZ
On the blinkers, are they coming on and not flashing? If so, probably the flasher.
On the CD player, it's probably the optical pickup. I had an old post that explained the replacement procedure. Let me search for it tonight.
the blinkers WERE coming on solid and not flashing, but they'd start working every now and again, but they finally flat out died about 3 days ago.

now, I click down, both blinkers stay black.

how would I fix the problem on that?

as for the cd player, thanks for the help, and thanks for looking for the replacement procedure.

as a better response to your question of how much I know about electronics, I can say that I put in both cd players, and I've changed out the speakers when I bought the car, but otherwise I don't have much experience...

and as for older decks, I thought about that.

keeping in mind that this IS a slightly old deck, the more I think about it, the more I want to keep this cd player, it looks gorgeous in this car, and I dunno what it is, but it just makes the music sound far better then the previous one.

if there's ANY way to fix it, I'd like to do it.

..and I'd been thinking about putting in an mp3 changer, I think I'll do that no matter what.

thanks again for the help, I really appreciate it.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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the blinkers WERE coming on solid and not flashing, but they'd start working every now and again, but they finally flat out died about 3 days ago.
The turn signal problem is probably the flasher. Under the dash there should 2 little can looking things in different places. These are the flashers, one is for the turn signals and one is for the hazards. The one for the turn signals needs to be replaced.

as for the cd player, thanks for the help, and thanks for looking for the replacement procedure.
No problem, but lets be reasonable. This is NOT a high end unit. If you think that sounds good try an Alpine. Also not the most reliable. But if you want to fix it, that's your call. I would get something better. Now that's out for the way.

Bad solder connections under the power supply IC are vary common on the JVCs. If you need to, find a friend that's good with a hot iron. The power supply IC is at the back of the main PCB in the center and held to the back of the unit as a heat sink. Check here for bad connections. Your in there so check the connections at the harness, RCA jacks, and the antenna input. Check for the bad connection FIRST. If all looks good the next step is to clean the pickup, then replace the pickup. Read this entire thread.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...t=car+AND+fire

Ignore the part about corrosion unless your unit ever got wet. As was said before, the unit is not worth a lot of time, but it's your call. I would say if you can do it your self it's not that bad, if you need to get someone to do part of it look for another HU.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by NEEDAZ
The turn signal problem is probably the flasher. Under the dash there should 2 little can looking things in different places. These are the flashers, one is for the turn signals and one is for the hazards. The one for the turn signals needs to be replaced.
you mean in the fuse box, right?

I actually only have one for some reason, I'd guess the other one fell out at some point if thats what you're referring to, and that would explain the whole "not working at all" thing...
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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I'm going by memory, so it's a little foggy. If I remember right the one on/next to the fuse box is for the turn signals (I think it's in what is called the convenience center). The other one, for the flashers should be hidden under the dash on the right side of the steering column.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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Spend a few extra dollars and get a high quality flasher unit for your turn signals. They sort of look like a vacuum tube, rather than the little tin can type that are cheap and don't last very long. You pay maybe twice as much for the good flashers but they will almost NEVER need replacing either, which is worth something extra to me.

And we're only talking about a few $$$ anyway
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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it's not the fuses, I replaced both.

I have hazards but no blinkers, so I'm assuming that its the actual switch on the column.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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you dont like buttons or dials? neither do I. Panasonic Ghosts are all touchscreen and not rediculously expensive anymore.

http://store.yahoo.com/bsless/cqhx1083u.html
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by FreeLoader
it's not the fuses, I replaced both.

I have hazards but no blinkers, so I'm assuming that its the actual switch on the column.
Don't listen well now do we. Or do you mean flashers, not fuses...........
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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correct me if I'm wrong, but the flashers are the tin lookin things on the fuse box, correct?

those are the things I replaced.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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OK, you ment flashers.
Square or round? Don't remember in the car, but my truck has two round "tins" in different places (these are the flasher), and two square "tins" that are circuit breakers. Have you tried searching in the electronics form for turn signal problems? May have some luck over there. Just trying to keep you from replacing that switch if you don't need to. It can be a PITA. I don't think both flashers are in the same place.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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I don't have anything on my fuse box thats cylindrical in any way, I have 2 square tin ones.

there appear to be two single slots that are empty on my fuse box though, would that be where they go?

eh, I'll check eheck the electronics area, this is too far off topic, thanks though.
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