hey i have a 92 v8 5.0L camaro and love it this is my second one i got T boned in my old one from a drunk driver and needless to say the sound system wasnt salvigable so i was thinking about going with pioneer this time

the speakers i was going to go with are 6x9 460 watt 5 way pioneers for $85-$170 in the rear. and for the front which is a 6 1/2 i was going to also go with the pioneer 280 watt 4 way speakers for $54

so what u think mind u this is without my two 12" subs and my cross over amp

 

Its gonna sound like a stereo? Give us the real power rating not peak (max). Can you put 6 1/2 in the front how will they fit?
What do you mean 4 way and 5 way? Tweeter, speaker, Sub, ?, ? There is 2 more?

If you liked the bass in your old system trust me you are gonna miss the subs. I took my subs to make a new box and for those few weeks driving just wasn't the same. Turning it up loud when you here a awesome song it just stinks.

 

hey sorry about not being to spesific the best buys web site was having difficulties and wasnt letting me get more info. The 6x9's are http://www.dealercostcaraudio.com/ts-a6992r.aspx and by 5-way i heard means that there are pretty much 5 speakers built into the one like tweeters and what not and about the 6 1/2s fitting in the front im pretty sure thats what i already have in. what size is yours? (on top of the front leather dash that comes out in 1 piece) and i also still have my 2 12" type S's and the custom fitting camaro box im just not sure if the accident did a number on them as well. but the main question is how good do you think the speakers are going to sound is any one formilure with them i havnt got the chance to listen to them are they pretty clear at a high volume or is there another route i should go like the sony explodes? well thanks hope to hear back soon.

 

the ones in the dash are 4x6's. i would recommend infiniti kappa's, kicker KS, or eclipse point source. very clear speakers, and if you add an amp later, they will sound great. as for a 5 way 6x9.....why? even in live and studio sound, the most you will ever find is 3...MAYBE 4 way. i dont understand why they have 3 tweets where one does 4k-6k, another 6k-10k, and another one doing 10k +. its just not necessary.

for a camaro, those rears are right next to your ears. i would recommend making a plate and doing a 6 1/2 component system. you'll have great midbass, and most crossovers have a -6db and +6db cut or boost on them for the tweets, so that will aid if you have too much high end hitting your ears.

as far as good comp sets, pioneers are alright, if you step up to the rev series, but i would try and match all around the car. kicker's stuff sounds incredible when you get into the ks series and up, but you will need an amp before too long. they are very very warm and clear. and i actually have a 4-channel eclipse amp for sale if you are interested...just pm me

hope this helps bro.

 

so are you saying that the pioneer 5 way speakers would be to much or that it wouldn't sound as clear? and do you by any chance have a link or url to some of the 4x6's you were talking about so i could take a look if not ill try and search for them as well. Also for the rear that is right by your head where you talking about making a cut out to fit in 6 1/2s?? i got a little confused with that part.

I also use to have infiniti 6x9s not to sure on exactly what because they came with my car and im pretty sure there where either eclipse or also infinitis for the 4x6's. But i was pretty pleased with the performance of infiniti but was maybe looking for a step up (which shouldnt be hard because they where probibly bought in umm..2002-2003) but you where sudjesting infiniti kappa's, kicker KS, or eclipse point source and im planning on trying to reinstall my subs once i get these speakers figured out i just wanna make sure im going to be happy with it being clear and crankible the bass i can take care of with my subs if they still work for all the input so far guys keep it coming

 

just buy some newer infinity 6x9. I don't know anything about infinity but they probably got some 06-08 new model speakers out by now if you say the speakers are from 02-03. Get some 4x6 and 6x9 from bestbuy or ebay which ever you prefer. Cheap or warranty? its up to you and they will sound nice and loud. type in the serial in google and see what they are and see if you can buy upgrade of them.

I wouldn't bother doing the 6 1/2. Sure it might sound great to the perfect ears of some people but if you don't know how to do the work or just don't want to do the work why bother...

Poineer hasnt ever really brought out any high end speakers in awhile that I have seen that pack a punch. They are more to the budget buyers. Low price good sound but nothing extreme. By the sounds of it you are looking to crank it every once and awhile so you might wanna stick with the infinity or Eclispe. (Lots of people on these forums seem to like eclispe once again I don't know anything about them but I have heard good things)

I got alpine type R in my rears and they have same RMS rating as infinity so I would assume they sound similar I just went for alpine because my deck and front is also alpine .

 

what im saying about the pioneers is, you're gonna spend $169 roughly on a pair of speakers that is worth probably $79. you don't need a 5 way speaker in a car, especially for the rear. just not worth it. its not going to be any clearer than a higher end speaker. if you're running subs though, i really suggest you get a mid/high amp. its gonna round out everything as far as levels go, so your bass isnt drowning out your mids and highs or vice versa. it will also add clarity to your mix.

also, what hellsatan said is a great point. switching to a comp set in the back would require a little work. basically, you would get a 1/2" sheet of mdf or something similar, make a template of the 6x9 hole, then on that mdf, cut out the holes for the 6 and tweet. it makes it easier to aim your tweet as well. if you just wanna stick with the 6x9s, the infinity's do sound great, my personal pref is the point sources, or the kickers. mainly cause i've dealt with that more. the shop i used to manage sold both the kickers and infinity's. and both are worth they're money.

eclipse's website is www.eclipse-web.com search the sp6900 i believe, and the se4600. they dont have the 4x6's in point source for some reason. shame

and of course kicker, is www.kicker.com they have higher series than the KS, but ive never heard them. but i will vouch for the KS and DS serier as both sounding great. they are a lot warmer than an infinity or similar speaker. the highs are smooth, the mids are clear. pretty much the same story on the eclipse.

 

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hey guys sorry i dont mean to keep bugging on the same subject but i found acouple kickers and wanted to see if you have gotten the chance to hear them and which ones you would recomend.

and about the mdf sheet i could do that real easy it looks like some one has already done it befor in this car, but would it really improve the sound by using a smaller rounded speaker?

 

Kicker speakers arent that good. The tweeters are too harsh and hardly put out any bass. Infinitys are good if you want loud and are running amps because they are 2ohm, but infinitys just as well don't put out much bass JBL and INFINITY are made by the same people so you will find the same issues. If you are going without an amp look into alpine type s or polk db. The polk dbs will be louder because they are the most efficient. The type r's sound smoother. 5way speakers arent neccesary, but if you want loud and reliable go with a round cone, ovals flex akwardly and are weaker. the 5way speakers will sound unnatural and will just sound real bad. There are other brands out there which are better for the money than pioneer such as mb quart & CDT. You only really need a nice set of front speakers amped, and the rears can be run off the headunit. If you are on a budget and want good sounding components. For $80 you can get phoenix gold. Those have alot of bass response and can be run w/ or w/o an amp. Shop around more, you will find alot more speakers than what you see in best buy. Don't buy from them their prices are outrageous.

 

round speakers sound better than oval if you are looking for clarity and craftsmanship. 6x9s and 5x7 are good if you don't have a sub, but if you have a sub don't go with oval speakers.

 

i dont really have a budget im just not trying to spend a outragious amount on the speaks im just trying to atleast find out which brand of speakers i should be looking in for a clear and loud response i have 2 12" subs that are outragious and a killer amp but im having difficulties finding the brand to go with and when i go to the stores to hear them they never have any thing that they do online ive been really busy doing alot of major work on my car at the moment and havnt had enough time to do as much research on the speakers

 

thank you all i decided to go with champnesupernva's sudjestion and go with the kicker ks460 4x6's and the kicker ks6930 6x9 3-way speakers for a bill he gave me a 50 dollar discount and for the 460s he ordered them for me for 50 instead of 80 i installed the 6x9s today and im real happy with those well see tomorrow after noon about the 4x6's thank you every one for your help

 

have fun don't forget to put all screws back. Can't seem to get them all to screw in.... always have extras.. hmmm oh well!

 

haha i know what you mean yea these kickers are alright crankible 8-9 but for clearity probibly 7 im still hella happy with them though and for the money i spent i know i got a good deal and they sound amazing now i just have to get my subs installed i have a on going list of 100 things im slowly checking off that need to be done and upgrades im doing on my car obviously like every one on here my car is my baby and my sanity and i love working on it and sitting back at the end of the day looking at what i completed i love working on my car on my free time

 

The GOD DAMN 6x9"s one of them has already blown out i think it might have been that way out of the box im getting it swapped but im a little disapointed in the kickers there loud but as streetworkx said they are a little harsh which takes away from the clearity obviously

 

hey man, sucks to hear the speaker blew out. i dont know if i mentioned or not....but when you get to the KS series or above, you really need an amp. i hope i said something about that. either way, they have great warranty. those speakers dont like only have 12-13 watts going to them like what your head unit will provide.

PM me if when you're interested in a 4-channel. i have one that i can get rid of. its an eclipse, great freakin amp

 

ya i remember some one saying somthing about a amp i dont remember if it was in this forum or not thanks for the offer on the 4 channel but i have a real nice crossover and subs i still need to install constructions just been slowing down trying to upgrade apt to a better one and just spend like 3 grand on my car i hope my subs arnt completly trash from the car crash :-/ thanks for all the help and yea the guy said just bring it in and they will give me a new one

 

i set up my subs to my suprise they work perfectly even after the crash the amp just needed to be slapped around to work it was in the garage for acouple years and some time this week im running the last couple wires so its not just mono it will be 5 channel to make the speakers as loud as my freaking bass :-) thanks for all the help

 

i have pioneer 4 way 6x9's in my car an they sound great mid- high only tho they wont do bass at all