Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
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Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
I mounted my amps, & a few other things right over the tank. I used one inch screws. I know its a bone head thing to do, but its done. I was thinking that one inch would be fine, & I did stay away from the center Where the hoses are. Am I ok?
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
1" screws?
How thick was the mounting feet? On a board? Or JUST the thin metal mounting feet?
How thick was the mounting feet? On a board? Or JUST the thin metal mounting feet?
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
WHERE did your screws go in? Got a pic?
My car has the Access Door, so I went & measured for you, with my old scale for when I was a CNC machinist, so it is SPOT ON.
I measured from 3/4" to 1" clearance, floor to tank. So depending in WHERE you put your screws & the thickness of the mounting feet on your amp.....
At the very least you touched the tank, but didn't penetrate it. Which is what I suspect happened if you never felt it go through the tank.
Chances are your safe & didn't puncture the tank, but no guarantee on that!
My car has the Access Door, so I went & measured for you, with my old scale for when I was a CNC machinist, so it is SPOT ON.
I measured from 3/4" to 1" clearance, floor to tank. So depending in WHERE you put your screws & the thickness of the mounting feet on your amp.....
At the very least you touched the tank, but didn't penetrate it. Which is what I suspect happened if you never felt it go through the tank.
Chances are your safe & didn't puncture the tank, but no guarantee on that!
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
LOL thanks for the encouragement. I got some for ya. Get a v8. Hole in the tank or not u still see me doing this right by ya.
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
WHERE did your screws go in? Got a pic?
My car has the Access Door, so I went & measured for you, with my old scale for when I was a CNC machinist, so it is SPOT ON.
I measured from 3/4" to 1" clearance, floor to tank. So depending in WHERE you put your screws & the thickness of the mounting feet on your amp.....
At the very least you touched the tank, but didn't penetrate it. Which is what I suspect happened if you never felt it go through the tank.
Chances are your safe & didn't puncture the tank, but no guarantee on that!
My car has the Access Door, so I went & measured for you, with my old scale for when I was a CNC machinist, so it is SPOT ON.
I measured from 3/4" to 1" clearance, floor to tank. So depending in WHERE you put your screws & the thickness of the mounting feet on your amp.....
At the very least you touched the tank, but didn't penetrate it. Which is what I suspect happened if you never felt it go through the tank.
Chances are your safe & didn't puncture the tank, but no guarantee on that!
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
Don't treat other members that way. Should we bash on your 305 TBI?.....
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?

k so back to the post. the screws are 7/8ths, & forgot to give for the carpet. 5/8ths went threw. Hope this isn't to confusing. I will post the pics, and let me know if I should measure. Forgot that the fuse block in the rear center has a screw in it too
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
Honestly, I would get a some much (MUCH) shorter screws to replace those 1 inchers. They may not have punctured the tank but one good bump or pothole might...
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
Ok I will do that. I was thinking that if I did make a hole that it was best to leave it alone since the hole, or holes should be plugged. It would be hard to tell if their was any holes,without dropping the tank right?
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
Might be able to turn on the car and when the car primes up the fuel pressure will let air escape back there and you might be able to hear it. Either way, something needs to get done, this was the same problem the Crown Vic's had, get rear ended and a bolt (or screw as it may be) punctured the tank and caused a spark. Something you don't want to play with either way. Take all the screws out to replace them with shorter ones either way, and when you have all the screws out, have someone turn the car into the on position, but do not start, so that the pump will prime and build up pressure. If you hear whistling or the sound of air escaping, then you likely punctured the tank. This is of course a half as test compared to dropping the tank and being sure. Definitely get shorter screws in there immediately!
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
Might be able to turn on the car and when the car primes up the fuel pressure will let air escape back there and you might be able to hear it. Either way, something needs to get done, this was the same problem the Crown Vic's had, get rear ended and a bolt (or screw as it may be) punctured the tank and caused a spark. Something you don't want to play with either way. Take all the screws out to replace them with shorter ones either way, and when you have all the screws out, have someone turn the car into the on position, but do not start, so that the pump will prime and build up pressure. If you hear whistling or the sound of air escaping, then you likely punctured the tank. This is of course a half as test compared to dropping the tank and being sure. Definitely get shorter screws in there immediately!
Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
you can remove the screws and use a straight piece solid wire and see if it only goes down about 1 inch, if it goes in more then that you have a hole in the tank
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
What kind of screws are we talking about here guys....???
just regular sheet metal screws that you had to drill a pilot hole for? Or did you use self-drilling screws that made their own hole?
Im willing to bet that the sheet metal in the cargo area would deform upwards, or strip out, before the tank would get punctured. Its not paper thin... You'd have to really bear down on the screw after it went through the sheet metal. If you did that...then I dont know what to tell ya.
Ide still replace them with some sorta screws, but I HIGHLY doubt you have holes in the tank. If you are worried, do the wire sticking into the hole trick.
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just regular sheet metal screws that you had to drill a pilot hole for? Or did you use self-drilling screws that made their own hole?
Im willing to bet that the sheet metal in the cargo area would deform upwards, or strip out, before the tank would get punctured. Its not paper thin... You'd have to really bear down on the screw after it went through the sheet metal. If you did that...then I dont know what to tell ya.
Ide still replace them with some sorta screws, but I HIGHLY doubt you have holes in the tank. If you are worried, do the wire sticking into the hole trick.
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
What kind of screws are we talking about here guys....???
just regular sheet metal screws that you had to drill a pilot hole for? Or did you use self-drilling screws that made their own hole?
Im willing to bet that the sheet metal in the cargo area would deform upwards, or strip out, before the tank would get punctured. Its not paper thin... You'd have to really bear down on the screw after it went through the sheet metal. If you did that...then I dont know what to tell ya.
Ide still replace them with some sorta screws, but I HIGHLY doubt you have holes in the tank. If you are worried, do the wire sticking into the hole trick.
J.
just regular sheet metal screws that you had to drill a pilot hole for? Or did you use self-drilling screws that made their own hole?
Im willing to bet that the sheet metal in the cargo area would deform upwards, or strip out, before the tank would get punctured. Its not paper thin... You'd have to really bear down on the screw after it went through the sheet metal. If you did that...then I dont know what to tell ya.
Ide still replace them with some sorta screws, but I HIGHLY doubt you have holes in the tank. If you are worried, do the wire sticking into the hole trick.
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
When I put my amps in I just bought some Velcro pads and stuck em to the amp and it grabs the carpet really nicely, you can even set it against the well at an angle and they wont budge. Good alternative.
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
On this car I put an alarm in, & screwed to the floor, so I will have time to load the shot gun.
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
That would have been a good idea, but I used screws for security. I have had 4 break in's in the last 3 years, in other cars. One car had the amps screwed to the false floor & they ripped the whole floor out, with the carpet, & took it all.
On this car I put an alarm in, & screwed to the floor, so I will have time to load the shot gun.
On this car I put an alarm in, & screwed to the floor, so I will have time to load the shot gun.
The alarm though, that should help.
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
You've stated your car has been broken into a few times before so I recommend finding a better spot for the amps instead of the gas tank hump. They're just too visible. Not to mention the tank is too close to think about putting any kind of screw through the sheet metal over it.
Its a bit more work, but why not see how some of the other members around here mounted them inside their back seats? I was able to put two amps in there and still have a completely working seat. Not to mention reducing the eye candy for thieves to look for.
Its a bit more work, but why not see how some of the other members around here mounted them inside their back seats? I was able to put two amps in there and still have a completely working seat. Not to mention reducing the eye candy for thieves to look for.
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
I could hide them, & in a way I did. 5% tint. Can still see in if you cup your hands by the glass to see in, unless the sun hits the window just right. I run my stuff pretty hard, with lots of power, so cooling is an issue when hiding amps.
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Check out this thread. Plenty of room for cooling.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/car-...-area-amp.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/car-...-area-amp.html
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here is a clue - do you smell gas?
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
There is nowhere near 3"-4"...... https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...658-post4.html
i dont know how far down he went but if he was near the top he had a good amount of space. cant say about further down but i base this on my actually seeing the space - i had to find out before dirlling. still i did not use screws longer than 1 inch, i did not have to.
i dont have to look at a picture, i look at the real thing.
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
Maybe you are talking about the vertical wall of the flat tire well? Because there sure isn't 3"-4" on TOP (like you said before "about 3-4 inches betweeen the rear compartment and the tank, at least at the top."
You may not want a pic, but your gonna get one anyways now. I don't want anybody to read your post & think there is that much room. Pics are worth 1000 words.
You may not want a pic, but your gonna get one anyways now. I don't want anybody to read your post & think there is that much room. Pics are worth 1000 words.
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
Maybe you are talking about the vertical wall of the flat tire well? Because there sure isn't 3"-4" on TOP (like you said before "about 3-4 inches betweeen the rear compartment and the tank, at least at the top."
You may not want a pic, but your gonna get one anyways now. I don't want anybody to read your post & think there is that much room. Pics are worth 1000 words.
You may not want a pic, but your gonna get one anyways now. I don't want anybody to read your post & think there is that much room. Pics are worth 1000 words.
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
dude i wasnt hating or anything. point is just stop for a second. look at how thick the metal is. why do you think they call them "sheet" metal screws. chill man. wtf does motor size have to do with it? ignorant sonofa...
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Lol. dude. That was a long time ago. Problem solved. But thanks for stirring the pot, again. Not falling for it this time.
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it was a long time ago indeed.. not "stiring the pot". im just not gonna lay down while you insult v6 owners.
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
what business does a tbi guy have insulting anyone anyway? lol sorry i had to, anyway why not use rivets? thieves need a drill to get them out and there wont be anything pointy to puncture the tank plus they only stick out 1/4"-ish
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
i dont think ive ever used a pop rivet an inch long, not counting the part that goes in the rivet gun
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Re: Did I put a bunch of holes in my gas tank?
The long part stays out & is not what is inserted to get seated. Me

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