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anyone here ever make a super drop base aircleaner?

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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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anyone here ever make a super drop base aircleaner?



ok, so my intake/carb doesnt clear the stock hood. from what i read, this setup was suppost to JUST make it.

it doesnt.


anyhoo, ive decided to make a super drop base and see if i can make it work..

the plan is to cut around a drop base so that i have a outer ring... im then going to lower the outer ring as much as i can, and then weld a strip of metal around to mate it with the inner ring.

this should let me get as much filter element as possible...

athough, the top of the cleaner is going to be close to the carb... but currently, theres nothing i can do about it

i wanted to get a Jongbloed hood, but Hawks doesnt stock them... they have to be ordered... 4-6 weeks.
i cant drive without a hood for 4-6 weeks. lol.

and no, im not switching intakes.

anyone else done this?
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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What good is all that filter element going to do when the airhorn is so close to the lid?
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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As Ape said, how much space is there between the lid and the air horn now and how much will there be after the drop. I'm assuming you have a set drop height that you plan on?

Well, what carb are you using?
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by Stekman
As Ape said, how much space is there between the lid and the air horn now and how much will there be after the drop. I'm assuming you have a set drop height that you plan on?

Well, what carb are you using?
holley 750 VC

no set height, just the base as low as possible. and the top at whatever is needed to clear the stock hood.

Originally posted by Apeiron
What good is all that filter element going to do when the airhorn is so close to the lid?
right now? its just a means of lowering the aircleaner.

in 4-6 weeks when i get a hood, its a way to run 8" of filter element.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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So if the lid is ½" from touching the top of the carb, what difference does it make how much filter medium there is?

In other words, why bother? It's not going to do the slightest bit of good because the filter medium isn't the restriction.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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put a k&n filter lid on it maybe? or do those things even work?
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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They work; but only if they're not smashed up against the bottom of a hood.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by RB83L69
They work; but only if they're not smashed up against the bottom of a hood.
a filter lid would make my problem worse...

you have to realize that the pleats in the lids filter do reach into the lid... basicly its "thicker" there.

those pleats could reach too close to the carb... restricting flow... and possibly screwing up the carbs metering..... as everyone keeps pointing out to me with the lid.


i'll say it again... the lid being that close is temp. the only reason im modding the base at all is because a 1" filter looks stupid and flows cruddy.


once i have a aftermarket hood, the drop base will remain, but i can then run alot more element, raising the lid a good several inches above the carb.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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btw, that was directed at mw66nova, even though i quoted RB..... im sure he knows that already.. lol
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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What benefit do you expect out of 8" of filter element as opposed to say 3 or 4"?
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by Apeiron
What benefit do you expect out of 8" of filter element as opposed to say 3 or 4"?

twice the expence when it comes time to change them.

nothing really. i mean, it should flow air easier by my logic, but theres not a whole lot of benefit... well, it will hide the nitrous plate... but other then that, not much.

im doing it because i can, and it'll work for the temp job on my car...
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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Twice the expense, but you'll only be doing it half as often. Sure maybe it'll flow air more easily, but it's not like there's much restriction there to begin with.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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i have 3 drop base aircleaners, so if i screw up its not the end of the world... i'll just use another one.. lol


btw, i recall reading some artical sometime back about how suprised the authors were when a dropbase had no effect on power output..... *shrug*

anyhoo... i was just wondering if anyone else has done somthign similar.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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I have posted many many times on how to make your stuff fit under a stock hood. do a search
On a typical aftermarket holley you will have to remove the choke horn to make it work.
Do the search you'll see what needs to be done.
All you need to do is get the RIGHT air cleaner base.

Last edited by F-BIRD'88; Jul 14, 2004 at 08:44 PM.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by F-BIRD'88
I have posted many many times on how to make your stuff fit under a stock hood. do a search
On a typical aftermarket holley you will have to remove the choke horn to make it work.
Do the search you'll see what needs to be done.
All you need to do is get the RIGHT air cleaner base.
if you do a search, you'll see ive posted links several times to the same GM drop base.

not asking how.

not asking why

just asking if anyone here has done it... im mostly doing it because i can. that and i dont want to wait a week to get one from GM. i realize everyone doesnt have a welder or sheetmetal forming skills...

and on that note.. i did it lastnight... theres lil over a inch and a half between the top of the choke horn and the lid.
its now under the stock hood.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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pictures?
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by mw66nova
pictures?
i need a digi cam

its not much to look at though.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Those who cant weld can always fiberglass.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Those who cant weld can always fiberglass.
some of us can do both.....

i suppose a fiberglass box isnt a bad idea... i honestly didnt think of trying.. ive always had metal aircleaners..
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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i'd be afraid that it would melt with the underhood temps man.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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i'd be afraid that it would melt with the underhood temps man.
eh, for a aircleaner its fine.

just look at your AC airbox, or the plastic carb spacers.. lots of cars have fiberglass underhood.... heck lots of fiberglass FOR the hood lol.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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Yeah it'll melt as soon as the fiberglass hood does.
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